• All Community
    • All Community
    • Forums
    • Ideas
    • Blogs

Not what you are looking for? Ask the experts!

Kudos0

Disc Optimization

Approximately how long does this process take? I did a full computer scan and my comp been running for roughly 12 hrs now. 9 hours on disc optimization. Do I wait, skip, or am I missing something?

Replies

Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization

Approximately how long does this process take? I did a full computer scan and my comp been running for roughly 12 hrs now. 9 hours on disc optimization. Do I wait, skip, or am I missing something?

Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization

Help please!!

Kudos1

Re: Disc Optimization

ThrillVille808

That sounds like a veeeery long time to be running. I'm thinking that it must be a very big disk and that you have it packed and this is the first time you are running the utility. I'm also assuming that the HDD activity light is at least blinking.

If none of these assumptions fits your situation then I'd guess that the utility is stuck for some reason. In which case it might be time to abort the process and let the program say that you did so that you don't corrupt any files. Then I'd reboot and report back with some more information so we can provide better assistance

Operating system, service pack, updates? All current?

Disk size and amount of free space. Amount of RAM - you know the usual list of parameters for the hardware and software so we know what we're dealing with.

Thanks

Dick Win7x64 SP1 current NSBU
Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization

Which Norton Product are you using? Could you also look under Support / About and give us the Version ID which is a string of numbers looking like nn.nn.nn.nnn  where n is a number .....

Hugh
Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization

i dontuse the norton pc tunup or disc opto i use tunup utilitiese which i think is more  better than the norton tunup it fixes broken short cuts  icons  disks etc

Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization


blakeny1 wrote:

i dontuse the norton pc tunup or disc opto i use tunup utilitiese which i think is more  better than the norton tunup it fixes broken short cuts  icons  disks etc



Sorry but could you clarify that a bit -- it does not seem to relate to this thread about a problem with the disk optimization feature, in Norton Internet Securities I imagine.

Hugh
Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization

sorry.. i  use a product called tuneup utilitilities2011  instead of  using the norton pc tuneup.optimization  it does a wonderfull job at optomizing and has added features  that the norton pc tuneup does not have...

Kudos1

Re: Disc Optimization

Note that Norton Disk Optimization simply leverages the built in Windows Defragmentation utility. Agreed there are 3rd party ones which are better. One important thing is that if a 3rd party utility is used for this, ensure that the Idle Time Optimizer in Norton is turned OFF.

Best wishes.

Allen

Windows 7 Ultimate SP 1, 64 bit, 32 GB * NIS Vers. 21.6.0.32* Ghost 15 * IE 9, Firefox, Safari. Test laptop with W7 Home Premium 64 bit * NIS Vers. 21.6.0.32
Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization

And, if your system disk is a Solid State Drive, you should make sure the Optimizer is never run on it. Defragmenting an SSD shortens its life span and is of no performance benefit.

Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization

Well how much optimization / defragging matters is debatable these days with modern large drives and file systems.

Windows 7 itself automatically defrags at scheduled times. Although the default is in the middle of the night, I believe it does it when you next start up the computer.

Hugh
Kudos1

Re: Disc Optimization


huwyngr wrote:

Well how much optimization / defragging matters is debatable these days with modern large drives and file systems.

Windows 7 itself automatically defrags at scheduled times. Although the default is in the middle of the night, I believe it does it when you next start up the computer.


What makes it less useful to defrag these days are primarily two things:

1. With the cost per MB of hard drives these days, most people have larger hard drives and therefore the cluster sizes tend to be larger resulting in a longer period of time before files become fragmented.

2. Faster seek times resulting in fragmented files not taking as long to load.

Almost all defrag utilities won't recommend defragging a drive until it reaches a certain percentage of fragmention. Except for SSD's I think it is still a good idea to defrag when you reach around 10% to possibly 15% fragmentation. The other thing a good defrag utility does is optimize so that frequently accessed and changed files are placed near the beginning of the drive.

My two cents worth.

Allen

Windows 7 Ultimate SP 1, 64 bit, 32 GB * NIS Vers. 21.6.0.32* Ghost 15 * IE 9, Firefox, Safari. Test laptop with W7 Home Premium 64 bit * NIS Vers. 21.6.0.32
Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization

Allen

I don't disagree except on the relocating -- firstly according to a former hard drive designer who's active over where I hang out on Compuserve and that I've known for decades things aren't like they used to be in the way hard drives work and interact with the OS and secondly what are we talking about in terms of speed up?

He considers defragging hard drives maybe every few months might be worthwhile ......

I'll ask him for an update especially on the relocation.

Hugh
Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization

Hi Hugh,

Every few months on average is exactly what I mean. By way of illustration, my old system which I replaced 3 years ago had 3 36GB HD's and because of the size I was forced to use 512 byte cluster sizes. On average I would reach 10% fragmentation in about two weeks (especially on the system drive) and have to defrag.

My current system has 3 x 500GB HD's so I have cluster size of 4KB. Now it takes about 2 1/2 months before I reach 10% fragmentation (somewhat longer on my D & E drives).

The cluster size remains the biggest factor in how often one should defrag because it is still true that the larger the cluster size, the longer it takes a given file to become fragmented.

I am still a believer in the physical location of where frequently accessed files are placed being a factor, albeit I think it makes less difference now than it used to.

When I first set up my current system (3 x 500GB HD's) out of habit I initially set up my system drive with 512 byte cluster sizes so I became fragmented in a pretty short time. When I reformatted the drive with 4KB cluster sizes and restored my system, my boot up time decreased by about 18 seconds.

Allen

Windows 7 Ultimate SP 1, 64 bit, 32 GB * NIS Vers. 21.6.0.32* Ghost 15 * IE 9, Firefox, Safari. Test laptop with W7 Home Premium 64 bit * NIS Vers. 21.6.0.32
Kudos0

Re: Disc Optimization

I've just been in contact with my man on this so I'll come back on it and in particular whether the concept of "front of the drive" has any real meaning given modern drive technology. As a layman it seems to me that the heads are just as likely to be somewhere else when a call is made for a location at the beginning of the drive and so will have to travel.

I should get some reaction from him since he just joined a thread on hot swapping drives and contact life .....

Hugh

Replies are locked for this thread.