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Kudos0

High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

Hello,

From time to time I receive a Norton alert for "High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform binary", but whenever this happens I don't know exactly what is causing the problem and I can't figure out how I could have avoided this problem.

Does anyone have prior experience with this problem and could anyone give any help in trying to resolve the problem?

The problem usually occurs when I have several documents open at the same time, and sometimes in different applications, e.g., in Firefox 5.0, IE8, Open Office 3, Adobe Acrobat 9, etc.   Whan it happens, I'm not sure which application(s) are contributing to the problem.  Of course, Norton NIS 2011 is also running at the same time.  I'm using Java 6 update 26

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

RichD

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HP-Mini 110 -1020NR (netbook) 2GB RAM, CPU N270 @1.60GHz, Windows XP Home, SP3, NIS 2011 18.6.0.29 (installed 12h00 GMT 18-JUL-11) , FF5,IE8

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Kudos0

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

It happens me very frequently if Firefox takes say 300 MB of memory.

More less usless info if the computer is still responsive.

Kudos1

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

Hi RichD,

Performance Alert is the feature which notifies the user if the system resources consumption is more. You may get alerts if a particular application uses either high cpu, high memory, high handles or high i/o.

Please go to Performance UI(Flip the Main UI). Mouse hover the Alert icon which appears in the upper section of the graph and click the View details. This will list you as which application has consumed most of your system resource in that particular time!

If you get that alert often, and if you think you are using it frequently, you can add that particular application in the exclusion list as well. Settings>>General>Performance Monitoring>>Program Exclusions>>Configure. In this window, add your application and click apply.

Hope this information helps you!

Regards,

Ashwini.

Kudos2

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

Rich,

I note you are running an HP Mini netbook with XP .... this model is fairly old (it came with NIS 2009!) and according to the HP Spec sheet for it the MAX memory is the 1GB it comes with so it's not surprising that you get a High Memory Usage report when running several applications!

The good news is that according to Crucial, one of the leading memory makers, you can install 2GB in that model although you have to pull the 1GB and replace it with a 2GB strip ....

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=HP%20Mini%20110-1020NR&Cat=RAM 

which will cost you all of $25 .... and Crucial give a lifetime warranty on their products and and a refund if it does not work if you select the memory their website shows as correct for your machine.

Up to you but that's a nice Netbook ....... I'm glad you upgraded to the current NIS 2011 ....

Hugh
Kudos0

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

HI RichD   You may have java set to run at startup when windows boots. I have java installed on my computer   but I have it set not to run at startup .you can do this using  ccleaner  open main window  click on tools >startup and look for java and disable the starup entry. do not delete the java entry.  what happins is if you disable java at startup is that if you need java to run it will run.and when you do not need it you can stop it. You can download ccleaner from here http://majorgeeks.com/CCleaner_Slim_d4191.html and look at that the vidieo on the same page for info on how to use the program ALF60

Kudos0

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

Hi RichD:

I did the same thing as ALF60 and disabled Java from loading at startup.  The only drawback is that this disables automated updating of Java, but it doesn't affect the normal operation of the Java browser plugins.

I can't remember if Windows XP comes with Windows Defender, but if it does you can also disable startup programs in Windows Defender by going to Software Explorer, choosing Startup Programs from the dropdown list, and clicking the Show for All Users button.  This last step is important because it allows you to actually select and disable the Java Platform SE AutoUpdater (jusched.exe).  If XP doesn't include Windows Defender, I also have the free Piriform CCleaner installed on my PC (available here) and find it's a handy program to have regardless.

It might even be possible to prevent these High Memory Usage warnings by simply disabling autoupdating in Java (Start | Control Panel | Java | Update,  then disable Check for Updates Automatically).  This way the Java AutoUpdater will still load into memory at startup, but as far as I know this should prevent the scheduler from intermittently running in the background and checking the Oracle servers for updates.  Someone who knows more about Java than I do may be able to confirm or correct this.

If it's important for you to have Java perform autoupdates, Ashwini's suggestion to create an exception for the Java AutoUpdater (C:\Program Files\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe) may be the only alternative.

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Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP2 * NIS 2011 v. 18.6.0.29 * IE 9.0 * Firefox 6.0 * Java 7.00 * CCleaner 3.09.1493
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Kudos0

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

HI Imacri  Windows xp and 2003  does not usually have its a manual download. In windows vista and win7 its installed when you install the o.s. AS for the java updater you can schedule update check  open java control panel go to updates> checkmark  check for updates automatically>advanced  the next window lets you change the day and time  for java to check for updates the defalt is at 4:00 am on the 14th of the mounth.  I do not set java to auto check  I do the check manualy. ALF60

Kudos0

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

Hello

I'm on XP Pro. I have the automatic checking for Java unchecked. I just go to the Java site to check for updates. By the time the Java updates are put on the update server and it gets around to you, the update has been out for a while. I just go to the Java site when I want to and check. I do the same thing with Adobe Reader, FlashPlayer and Shockwave player. In fact, I do most of my updates by going to the site and checking for myself. Even with Windows Updates, I have it set to notify me of updates and tell me what they are. Then I can see what is being downloaded and see if it's one that I feel I need.

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Kudos1

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

Thanks to everyone for the input.  All of the replies have been useful to me and are highly appreciated. I will start implementing different solutions over the next few days.

After inspecting the Norton Performance Log more closely, I managed to identify the specific application that was causing the " High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary" problem.  It was an application that had come preinstalled with my computer and that has always launched at startup. However, it turns out that this application is one that I have absolutely no use for, so I have now disabled it.   It had accounted for over two-thirds of all my high-memory usage alerts.  Hopefully now I will have a lot fewer of these alerts.

RichD

HP-Mini 110 -1020NR (netbook) 2GB RAM, CPU N270 @1.60GHz, Windows XP Home, SP3, NIS 2011 18.6.0.29 (installed 12h00 GMT 18-JUL-11) , FF5,IE8
Kudos0

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

Glad to help  good thing you found what was causing your problem. ALF60

Kudos0

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary


huwyngr wrote:

Rich,

I note you are running an HP Mini netbook with XP .... this model is fairly old (it came with NIS 2009!) and according to the HP Spec sheet for it the MAX memory is the 1GB it comes with so it's not surprising that you get a High Memory Usage report when running several applications!

The good news is that according to Crucial, one of the leading memory makers, you can install 2GB in that model although you have to pull the 1GB and replace it with a 2GB strip ....

http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=HP%20Mini%20110-1020NR&Cat=RAM 

which will cost you all of $25 .... and Crucial give a lifetime warranty on their products and and a refund if it does not work if you select the memory their website shows as correct for your machine.

Up to you but that's a nice Netbook ....... I'm glad you upgraded to the current NIS 2011 ....


Hugh,

Thanks so much for making the recommendation to me to upgrade by netbook memory from 1 GB to 2 GB.  I did it yesterday, and it was a much simpler operation than I had ever expected -- just remove the memory compartment cover, replace the original 1 GB memory card with a 2 GB Kingston memory card, and replace the memory compartment cover.   All of that took less than 5 minutes, and now I am running on 2 GB RAM. I should have done this long ago!

Thanks again,  RIchD

HP-Mini 110 -1020NR (netbook) 2GB RAM, CPU N270 @1.60GHz, Windows XP Home, SP3, NIS 2011 18.6.0.29 (installed 12h00 GMT 18-JUL-11) , FF5,IE8
Kudos0

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

Glad you found it so ... and I hope you see some benefit.

Hugh
Kudos0

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary


huwyngr wrote:

Glad you found it so ... and I hope you see some benefit


Hugh,

Yes, the memory upgrade did make a difference, and I can see some benefit.  Now my PC has around 31% of RAM used by the system (69% RAM available for general use), whereas before the upgrade to 2GB my PC had over half of its RAM used by the system and only about 1/3 available for general use.

In the screen print below, you can see the difference between before, and after.  On the left side of the performance graph (encircled in red) the system was using up about 2/3 of installed RAM, but after the upgrade to 2GB RAM, the system usage dropped to only about 1/3 of installed RAM (see second graph below for RAM usage as it stands today)

Thanks, RichD
HP-Mini 110 -1020NR (netbook) 2GB RAM, CPU N270 @1.60GHz, Windows XP Home, SP3, NIS 2011 18.6.0.29 (installed 12h00 GMT 18-JUL-11) , FF5,IE8
Kudos0

Re: High Memory usage by Java (TM) Platform SE binary

Rich,

Glad to see it went well.

Hugh

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