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Kudos0

BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

Hi

Ive used Ghost to copy from my new laptops HDD running win764  (C:) to a new installed SSD (F:) . I followed the instructions and selected 'set drive active' and 'copy mbr'.

But, when I select the drive in the BIOS to boot the SSD, I get BOOTMGR is missing. Does the drive letter need to be changed in Disk Managment?

Thanks  

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Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

quietman,

Can you post a screenshot of Disk Management with both drives attached?

http://community.norton.com/t5/Forum-Feedback/Forum-Tip-How-to-post-screenshots-in-the-forum/td-p/254415

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

You didn't copy the System Reserved Partition. It contains the booting files including bootmgr.

Rather than doing the whole project again, I suggest creating booting files in the new Win7 partition.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=411

Your section ceases just before "Technical Notes".

Make sure the new drive is the only drive connected for this proceedure and the first boot.

Success?

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

this assumes I have DVD to re-instllal which I dont as its an OEM win7 install... when i first started this I think a 100mb was created... so how do I copy a system partition for the new ssd? without having to have a CD/DVD?

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

ive managed to create a system reserved partition on my ssd and doing another copy to the ssd F drive again to see if that will work

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

still same error... I dont understand as some instructions state there should be a c:\boot directory but there is none

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

quietman,

Can you post another screenshot of Disk Management with both drives attached?

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

My personal solution for new drives is to actually load Windows 7 on the new drive. This formats the drive correctly and you do not even have configure the new install. I use a USB thumb drive that I made bootable (much faster than loading from disc). Install the new ssd, load windows 7 (any version), and then do a ghost recovery as normal. Once the Ghost image is restored, Windows will say that bootmgr is missing and you pop your Windows disc back in and do a repair my computer (might have to do this two times while it recreates your bootmgr partition. Has worked for me every time.

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD


Gadget_Freak wrote:

Once the Ghost image is restored, Windows will say that bootmgr is missing


That error means you have made a mistake. Not Ghost or Win7. You should never see that error message.

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

Not saying it is the correct way, just saying that this is the most consistent way that I have recovered Ghost images. Never had problems with Windows XP, but once Microsoft started doing the 100MB partition I have always had this issue. I am sure that there are other ways to restore, but this is the only way that I have found that has worked 100% of the time for me. When you are installing a new drive or a drive that does not have the 100MB partition already, it seems like Ghost does not like to create it. Then you have an image with no boot partition. That is why I install Win 7, restore the system image, and then let the windows install disc fix the boot partition.

I spent way too much time trying to restore from a Ghost image, the way it should be done, to waste any more time trying it. I just figured out another way to get the job done and have not looked back since. That is until now, Windows 8 won't even register the license for Ghost (but that's for another post). 

Kudos1

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

Gadget_Freak,


In "The Jungle Book", Baloo said to Mowgli, "You’re working too hard." I'm afraid you are too. Installing Win 7 is not necessary. Doing a Windows Repair is not necessary.

The booting files may be in a SRP or they may be in the Win7 partition. If they are in the SRP you need to image and restore two partitions. If they are in the Win7 partition you only need to image and restore one partition. We suggest the target HD be blank, no partitions.

The restore options are in this page.

http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Norton-Products/Ghost-15-options-for-recovery/td-p/218202

So all that's needed is to restore the image(s) and Win7 will boot without an error message. If you don't restore the SRP when it is needed you get "BOOTMGR is missing". Because it is.

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

That may explain it. I was an early adopter to Win 7 when there were many people having problems recovering with the Ghost images. Like I said, I never looked back once I figured out a way to do it. That was probably in 2009. Of course loading Win 7 from a flash drive to an SSD only takes about 7 minutes.

Next time I will try it like your tutorial. I am always looking for a faster and easier way to do things! Then I can spend more time fishing.

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD


Gadget_Freak wrote: Then I can spend more time fishing.

I'm with you.

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

heres my latest image... I really did think this would be an easy solution and Id be up and running using ghost ... and have a new laptop running an os with ssd... how wrong I was...

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

OK... this should be stright forward right?

So this is what I have done to date (right or wrong)......

Bought brand new Samsung laptop with 1TB drive rinning win7 64

Then bought a Samdung 256gb ssd

Installed the SSD in the spare drive bay

Initialised the drive in Disk Management (maybe some mistakes were nade here)

Carried out a copy hdd to ssd using Ghost and clicked the correct check boxes

Went into the bios made the ssd the boot disk

Then get BOOTMGR is missing....

Ghost only seems to cover the steps of copying the drive but does not assist in the corrdtc way to set the drive up in disk mangament and BIOS..

Can this also be carried out by making the ghost CD bootbale first avoiding going into windows?

Kudos1

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD


quietman wrote:

OK... this should be stright forward right?


Not with Win7 I'm afraid.

You have copied the SRP. That's good. But you didn't set it Active. You set the Win7 partition Active. That's bad.

Boot from the Ghost CD,

Utilities
Change Active Partition
Enter ID: of the SRP
Press ENTER

Boot into Win7

One question. Did you delete the Win7 partition on the SSD before you did the second Copy Drive? I think you did. That's good.

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

OK... not good as I tried using ghost via CD boot and for some reason my Win 7 would not boot. I am back up again after a complete system restore...

OK... so I now have a clean copy of Win7 on my hard drive... Ive now deleted both volumes of the SSD so its 'inallocated' perhaps its time to start again?

Can you talk me through right from the start again.......... appriciate your help btw....

Ive spoken to Samsung as well they told me to use the Magician softweare that comes with the SSD but it could not carry out as it comes up with a 'frozen' state issue.

So do I now retry the ghost copy?

Accepted Solution
Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

quietman,

Don't visit a casino. You are certainly having a run of bad luck.

The first issue may be sector spread.

http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Norton-Products/Cloning-HDD-to-SSD-Dell-XPS-8300/m-p/831414#M51427

But this didn't seem an issue last time so let's try it again without a partition resize. If the following fails we can talk you through a Win7 resize.

You only need to copy the first 2 partitions and you will note that the first partition is Active, not the second. You have already deleted the partitions on the SSD. Start Ghost and tick Show Hidden Drives. Copy the SRP first. Then Win7. After the copies are complete, shutdown and remove the old HD from your computer and move the SSD SATA cable to the motherboard port the old HD was using. After Win7 is booting correctly you can re-connect the old HD and delete the first two partitions.

Use these options...

For the SRP

Check source for file system errors
Check destination for file system errors
Set drive active (for booting OS)
DON'T SELECT Disable SmartSector copying
DON'T SELECT Ignore bad sectors during copy
Copy MBR
Destination partition type : Primary
Drive letter : None


For Win7

Check source for file system errors
Check destination for file system errors
Resize drive to fill unallocated space (you won't have any)
DON'T SELECT Disable SmartSector copying
DON'T SELECT Ignore bad sectors during copy
Destination partition type : Primary
Drive letter : None

I'm sorry you have had so much trouble. Win7 is much harder to clone than WinXP and needs attention to details.

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

OK... so when you say 'copy the SRP' is this from the current HDD system reserved partition?

Also, I assume there is no way of getting arounf the open heart surgery to the new laptop? I believe there 2 HDDs in this new laptop...

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

Apologies. I though you had a desktop.

The SRP, System Reserved Partition, contains the booting files and is the Active partition. The booting files are BOOTMGR and the BOOT folder which contains the BCD Store. You need to copy the SRP that is on Disk 0 to the SSD.

Ignore my section on motherboard. When the copy has completed, shutdown and remove the old drive from your laptop. The old drive MUST NOT be in the laptop for the first boot from the SSD. After the old HD has been removed, boot the SSD. It should boot from its current position but you might have to put it in the old HDs slot.

Any questions?

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

Thanks Brian for the patience and Im glad I dont bet as you said!

right, as Im discovering my BOOT folder does not exist (unless its hidden of course) ...

as this will require HD removal... this will have to wait now until sometime tomoorow but I will get back to you once Ive tried this solution

thanks

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

The BOOT folder amd BOOTMGR are hidden.

We see a lot of people who boot the new drive with the old HD still installed. Win7 boots and all looks OK but the OS never loads completely and stalls on a dull grey, blue screen. It's a drive letter issue.

After Win7 has successfully loaded and you find it is working properly you can re-install the old HD. You can then delete the old OS.

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

ok makes sense... the other thing puzzling me is drive letters... with the old drive out will i be bootong from F: drive ie the ssd or do I then rename it to C:... but would this conflict when tge HD goes back in?

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

The booted OS assigns the drive letters. So when old Win7 is the booted OS it is C: drive and any other visible OS is some other drive letter.

When new Win7 is the booted OS it is C: drive and any other visible OS is some other drive letter. Don't worry about drive letters if you do everything properly.

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

well good news... I couldnt wait... I have booted up minus the HDD from the SSD!! it flys...

now, I assume the HDD goes back now? how will it appear do you think ?

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

Great news. That was fast.

Install the old HD. Check Disk Management. The first 2 partitions will have any drive letters but won't be C:

Be careful that the laptop is not booting from the old HD. I don't understand your BIOS but if the C: drive is on the SSD you are OK to delete the first 2 partitions on the old HD and create a single NTFS partition in the unallocated space.

Questions?

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

bad news... its booting form the HD again! the SSD does not have drive letters any more

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

oh... I havnt gone to the BIOS to chnage the priority I think I should have done that..!

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

OK... better news....... we are booting back on the SSD now Ive chanhed the priority... the DISK 0 has the folloowing:

D: system

F: healthy primary

E:healith logical

and the 22.92 gb (oem partiition)

now I assume this nopw can be formatted?

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

OK, I now have an F and M drive... M for music... I write music so all my vsts/samples will be loaded next which will take days!!

but this hurdle I think is complete... thanks for hanging in there with me..

Martin

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

Win7 sometimes reverses the drives in Disk Management but it doesn't matter. Delete D: and F: and get back to us. Don't create a new partition yet. If there is a problem remove the old HD and maybe put the SSD in the other slot. But it should be OK.

Edit   I think you are ahead of me. Is all OK?

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

done a reboot all seems fine now...

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

yeah still good... now to install Sonar my digital audio workstation....

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

Does it all make sense now? As you found, there are lots of places where mistakes can be made.

How "fast" is the SSD compared to your old HD?

Kudos0

Re: BOOTMGR is missing on my SSD

yes... its like anything if you do it on a regular basis... becomes 2nd nature... I used to instll Citrix on old 386s could do that in my sleep....

i would say about... double speed

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