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Cloning Samsung SSD using Ghost Windows 8

First post! 

I bought a new Asus X202e-dh31t netbook/notebook 11.6" touch screen which came with Windows 8 and a 500Gb hard drive.  I bought an 840 Samsung 250Gb SSD which I would like to use to replace the HDD.  As usual, I don't have the Windows disk(s) so I'll need to clone the existing OS over to the new SSD

I've read a LOT about this process and several others have done this on this same model computer, though I don't recall anyone using Ghost to do it.  When I bought everything, I thought it would be a quick and simple process, but I've read all sorts of horror stories, several on this forum, so I figured before I really screw things up, I'd ask for advice from more knowlegeable folks  -  Namely, you guys

My SSD came with a product code so I could download Ghost, enter the code and use it to do the procedure.  It seems in the interim, Symantec's agreement with Samsung has gone by the wayside so my product code did not work.   I ordered my own single computer version of Ghost  -  It should arrive tomorrow

Reading the all too short cloning instructions for Ghost, it appears that what they say and what I need to do aren't exactly the same things.  Since this is a single bay laptop, they say to replace the HDD with the SSD first and they give instructions for jumpering the drives so the new SSD is the master and the old HDD is the slave.  All I have is a portable drive bay to mount the old HDD into and that connects with a USB cable.  I bought this as a separate accessory  -  It didn't come with the Samsung SSD.  Reading how others did this, they cloned the SSD while in the portable drive bay and then swapped the drives afterwards . . . . although, they were not using Ghost to do it.  I do have another cloning program which came with the portable drive bay I bought and it suggests doing it this way but it will only clone the entire drive at once and not partition by partition as Ghost does.  Since the SSD is smaller than the HDD, this didn't seem like the best way to go, so I bought the Ghost.  Reading others experiences, it seems cloning a larger HDD to a smaller SSD can introduce complications, and I certainly don't need to make this any harder than it already is

Should I install the SSD in the laptop first (as Ghost suggests) and proceed from there?


My 500Gb HDD came already partitioned into an OS C: drive of 186Gb and a Data D: drive of 258Gb.  There is nothing on the D drive excpet for a few Gb of pictures that I put there, so I won't need to clone that partition . . . . I can copy those over later.  From what I've read, the fact that my OS drive C is smaller than my SSD is a good thing  -  That should mean this can be done without resizing drive C . . . . right?

Any guidance anyone would care to offer will be most welcomed at this point.  Hopefully, I can give this a shot tomorrow and it will all go as planned, with hardly a hiccup . . . . but this is not usually my experience with it comes to computers, hence my apprehension .  I'm anxious to be able to use my new machine  -  I've been holding off because I thought it would be better to clone it before I installed any anti-virus programming

Thanks in advance,

Don

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Kudos0

Re: Cloning Samsung SSD using Ghost Windows 8

First post! 

I bought a new Asus X202e-dh31t netbook/notebook 11.6" touch screen which came with Windows 8 and a 500Gb hard drive.  I bought an 840 Samsung 250Gb SSD which I would like to use to replace the HDD.  As usual, I don't have the Windows disk(s) so I'll need to clone the existing OS over to the new SSD

I've read a LOT about this process and several others have done this on this same model computer, though I don't recall anyone using Ghost to do it.  When I bought everything, I thought it would be a quick and simple process, but I've read all sorts of horror stories, several on this forum, so I figured before I really screw things up, I'd ask for advice from more knowlegeable folks  -  Namely, you guys

My SSD came with a product code so I could download Ghost, enter the code and use it to do the procedure.  It seems in the interim, Symantec's agreement with Samsung has gone by the wayside so my product code did not work.   I ordered my own single computer version of Ghost  -  It should arrive tomorrow

Reading the all too short cloning instructions for Ghost, it appears that what they say and what I need to do aren't exactly the same things.  Since this is a single bay laptop, they say to replace the HDD with the SSD first and they give instructions for jumpering the drives so the new SSD is the master and the old HDD is the slave.  All I have is a portable drive bay to mount the old HDD into and that connects with a USB cable.  I bought this as a separate accessory  -  It didn't come with the Samsung SSD.  Reading how others did this, they cloned the SSD while in the portable drive bay and then swapped the drives afterwards . . . . although, they were not using Ghost to do it.  I do have another cloning program which came with the portable drive bay I bought and it suggests doing it this way but it will only clone the entire drive at once and not partition by partition as Ghost does.  Since the SSD is smaller than the HDD, this didn't seem like the best way to go, so I bought the Ghost.  Reading others experiences, it seems cloning a larger HDD to a smaller SSD can introduce complications, and I certainly don't need to make this any harder than it already is

Should I install the SSD in the laptop first (as Ghost suggests) and proceed from there?


My 500Gb HDD came already partitioned into an OS C: drive of 186Gb and a Data D: drive of 258Gb.  There is nothing on the D drive excpet for a few Gb of pictures that I put there, so I won't need to clone that partition . . . . I can copy those over later.  From what I've read, the fact that my OS drive C is smaller than my SSD is a good thing  -  That should mean this can be done without resizing drive C . . . . right?

Any guidance anyone would care to offer will be most welcomed at this point.  Hopefully, I can give this a shot tomorrow and it will all go as planned, with hardly a hiccup . . . . but this is not usually my experience with it comes to computers, hence my apprehension .  I'm anxious to be able to use my new machine  -  I've been holding off because I thought it would be better to clone it before I installed any anti-virus programming

Thanks in advance,

Don

Kudos0

Re: Cloning Samsung SSD using Ghost Windows 8

Don,

Nice post. There are several forum threads on how to do this but folks tend to get it wrong without guidance. So don't try it until we are happy you are in the right track.

Can you post a screenshot of Disk Management?  No need to have the SSD connected.

http://community.norton.com/t5/Forum-Feedback/Forum-Tip-How-to-post-screenshots-in-the-forum/td-p/254415

Kudos0

Re: Cloning Samsung SSD using Ghost Windows 8

GHost 15 does not fully support Windows 8.  The main problem is that you can't activate the program, it just gives you an error about an invalid key.

Is that why you purchsed another copy?

I'm also pretty sure the product does not let you do a "copy drive" when it is in trial mode and since you won't be able to activate it you will have to create images of the partitions onto an external USB drive or something, and then restore those images onto the new hard drive.

Your also correct about the drive size problem, for best results you will want to first shrink the partition(s) so everything is going to fit on the smaller SSD.

Dave

Kudos0

Re: Cloning Samsung SSD using Ghost Windows 8


DaveH wrote:

Is that why you purchsed another copy?


Good point Dave.

Don, you can probably return your purchased copy of Ghost 15 as the original key will be OK for what I'm planning. Try this. Boot from the Ghost CD, choose Backup, enter your key when asked. If the key is OK (and it should be) then you don't need another copy of Ghost.

Kudos0

Re: Cloning Samsung SSD using Ghost Windows 8

I'm interested to see how Asus is shipping windows 8.

Have a feeling they will all be 64bit with EFI with GPT partitions.

Dave

Kudos0

Re: Cloning Samsung SSD using Ghost Windows 8

Good point again. If that's true then Ghost 15 is out. Also, I hope it doesn't have mSATA. That is a pain.

Kudos0

Re: Cloning Samsung SSD using Ghost Windows 8

Great!  I was hoping to hear from both of you  -  I've read your advice on similar problems all over this forum and I was pretty sure if anyone could help me, it would be you guys

For the screenshot  -  I'm not yet sure how to pull that off in Win 8  -  It's supposed to be the Windows key pressed with Print Screen, but if it took the shot, I'm not sure where it stored it.  Disk management reports  simple layout, basic type and healthy status for everything.  Disk 0 is basic, 465.64 Gb and online.  There is a 300mb EFI system, a 600mb recovery part, a 186.30 Gb OS Drive C: NTFS boot, page file, crash dump primary, a 258.44 Gb Drive D: NTFS primary partition and a 20.1Gb Recovery Partition

I have already made a recovery USB 'disk' on a 16 Gb memory stick.  Yes, the Windows 8 OS is 64 bit.  I'm completely new to all this of course, but just playing around with it for a few days, it looks like I'm going to really like the way Win8 couples to the touch screen machine  -  It's very much like doing things on my Android cel phone . . . . you don't need the keyboard for a lot of things, but it's really handy to have a full keyboard as opposed to typing on the screen

I bought a new copy of Ghost because the clone functions would not activate without a valid authorization code and the code that came with my SSD wasn't a valid one.  If I can not make a clone of the OS Drive C: then what will I need to copy to?  Drive C reports is contains 55Gb of data . . . . surely I can't copy that to USB drives?

There must be a way to fo this  -  Others have done it, but for sure, they were all better versed at this type of project than I am.  I really wish Asus had offered this computer with a 250 Gb SSD, as I would have gladly paid an extra couple hundred for one configured that way.  In addition to the SSD, this machine needed a better touchpad driver and I downloaed that from Samsung, since one of their machines came with the very same Elan touchpad  -  Asus doesn't offer that particular driver.  The only other change I'm going to make is to replace the Wi-Fi card with an Intel N-6235 which I already have.  Once it's up and running with the SSD, this is going to be one sweet little $500 computer . . . . of course, I'll have about $700 in it at that point, but that's still very reasonable for what it is, IMO

Thanks for keeping me out of all the trouble I would already be in for if I hadn't come here first 

Don

Kudos0

Re: Cloning Samsung SSD using Ghost Windows 8


alphacarina wrote:
There is a 300mb EFI system, a 600mb recovery part, a 186.30 Gb OS Drive C: NTFS boot, page file, crash dump primary, a 258.44 Gb Drive D: NTFS primary partition and a 20.1Gb Recovery Partition

Don,

Dave hinted at this. You have an EFI system and Ghost 15 doesn't support EFI.

Send me a PM.

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