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Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

leemy — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:24:27 GMT

I'm running Ghost 15 w/ SP1. I have a source 500 GB HDD in my laptop with two partitions. Under 200 GB is in use

I have a new target 240 GB SSD in an enclosure attached via USB. I'm looking to clone the hard drive so I can swap them.

I can't seem to "Copy Disk" both partitions to the SSD. Am I supposed to do them one at a time and if so, will it ask me how large I want to make the first partition and the second will be as available?

Thanks.

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

DStain — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:31:33 GMT

leemy,

You can't do it in a USB attached enclosure with Ghost 15, the target needs to be prepared properly and you will need to run a "One Time Backup" of your existing HDD onto an external drive first.

It would be helpful to post the pic of disk management for us to see exactly what you have in terms of partitions on that HDD.

Run your backup and then get back to us for further instructions.

Deric

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

DStain — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:46:10 GMT

leemy,

If you read this post Here it will give you full practical instructions on how to do an Image/Restore.

It is the only way really to do a laptop "Clone" if you can't fit another drive in the laptop.

Deric

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

Brian_K — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:34:18 GMT

leemy,

As Deric mentioned, we really need to see a screenshot of Disk Management.

http://community.norton.com/t5/Forum-Feedback/Forum-Tip-How-to-post-screenshots-in-the-forum/td-p/254415

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

leemy — Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:03:52 GMT

Thanks guys for the help. Here is a picture from Disk Management. My SSD was plugged in but doesn't show here; I do remember coming into Disk Management to format it when I got it, perhaps this needs to be undone/wiped. In Norton Ghost it says "240GB, 899MB Used"

I ran a one-time backup of C: and D: to a separate external hard drive (not the SSD)

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

DStain — Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:07:21 GMT

The SSD has to be connected direct to the motherboard.

Your disk management show no complicated partitions.

All you need to backup is the C: partition, that is the main one to safeguard your computer.

Now if you want to swap drives you are going to have to down size it to fit.

You have a 500 gig source and 240 target I have recently done this in the thread "Copy Drive Failure"

Read this post Here

I would hang on till BrianK comes online I am sure he will be able to better advise you on this one.

Deric

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

Brian_K — Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:20:17 GMT

leemy,

The first partition is probably a recovery partition and is not needed on your SSD.

Delete all partitions from the SSD before you start the following.

Remove the HD from your laptop and install the SSD

Boot from the Ghost CD and restore your C: drive image

Boot into Win7

Your C: drive has only 23% free space. Decide how many more apps you are likely to install and resize the C: drive larger. Or you might decide to uninstall unnecessary apps to create more free space.

Create a primary partition in the remaining unallocated space

Connect your old HD via USB etc to the laptop and Copy/Paste data from the Data partition into the just created partition. The new partition might not be large enough to hold all of your data.

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

leemy — Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:09:20 GMT

Thanks Brian I will try that. If my laptop doesn't have an optical drive, am I able to make a recovery USB thumbdrive?

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

Brian_K — Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:13:22 GMT

Sure.

http://krisrowland.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/boot-norton-ghost-14-srd-from-a-usb-stick/

Edit... you don't have to boot from the Ghost CD to do this. Run Diskpart in Win7.

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

leemy — Thu, 03 May 2012 02:45:01 GMT

Hi Brian,

Almost there. I deleted the partition on the SSD, and made a USB ghost boot drive. The tutorial you linked required another computer have an optical drive, which I didnt have, so I followed the instructions here to make a Ghost USB system recovery disk : http://reboot.pro/12832/

Anyway, I finally restored C: to my SSD, but it didnt let me resize the drive i believe. That's ok, I think the remaining 20 gigs free is adequate. I checked disk management and the remaining space shows as a partition but not as a drive letter (so I can copy and paste to it). When I right click on it, the only active option is "Delete Volume". Heres a screenshot

Further, when I plug in my old harddrive via an external enclosure, nothing seems to happen. The light on the enclosure lights up, but no sound or visual response from Windows, and no drive in Disk Management.

Almost back running! Thanks for your continued help.

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

Brian_K — Thu, 03 May 2012 07:06:02 GMT

leemy,

Do you want to expand your OS partition to 223 GB? Or something else?

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

leemy — Thu, 03 May 2012 12:49:46 GMT

I want to somehow bring my files that I had on the old "D:" to the new SSD. I don't mind if they're all on an expanded C: or if I can make a new volume out of the remaining space. Might as well do one drive, since there's only 240gb total.

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

DaveH — Thu, 03 May 2012 19:27:31 GMT

The second partition on the new drive has not been formatted or have a letter assigned.

If you say the only option you get when you right click on the partition is to delete it, thats very odd and I guess you have no choice.

Go ahead and delete it and it should become unallocated space.

Then it's your choice on what you want to do.

Either:

Right click on the C drive in the bottom section and use the option to expand it to the full size of the drive.

(You'll end up with a single partition on the drive)

Or:

Right click in the unallocated space and create a new simple volume. Make it a primary with NTFS and give it a drive letter.

(You'll end up with 2 partitions on the drive).

Then we can deal with the old drive.

What kind of drive is it, SATA or IDE?

Do you have it installed in the external case correctly with the right jumper settings if it is IDE?

Dave

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

leemy — Thu, 03 May 2012 21:12:34 GMT

I deleted volume and extended C: to the full 223GB of the 240GB SSD.

Here's a screenshot of Disk Management now with the old HDD plugged in via a SATA/external USB enclosure. It shows as Disk 1, but isn't given a letter, etc. I need that to copy my files over, I think.

How can I get Disk 1 (the old HDD) to cooperate? thanks.

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

DaveH — Fri, 04 May 2012 00:10:32 GMT

Right click on the partition with the green outline and give it a drive letter.

Edit- hold on a second.

I didn't notice the drive is offline because of a conflicting disk signature

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

DaveH — Fri, 04 May 2012 00:35:45 GMT

OK, I was trying to think if it was safer to try to bring it online or to manually change the signature.

I think manually chaging it would be better because you will have the option of changing it back should you need to boot to the old drive easily.

Click the start button and in the search bar type: cmd

When cmd.exe gets displayed on the top of the window, right click on it and select "run as administrator".

In the command box type the following pressing <enter> after each line:

diskpart

list disk

select disk 1

uniqueid disk

(please write down and save that value)

uniqueid disk ID=44617665

exit

Use the safely remove hardware thingie, unplug the drive and then plug it back in.

Go into disk management, the drive should now show as "online" in the box on the very left (the box that says "Disk 1")

If a drive letter is present you should be able to see it in "computer" now. If a drive letter is not present, right click on the green partition and assign it one.

Dave

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

leemy — Fri, 04 May 2012 02:16:25 GMT

Awesome I did that (the original value was 76692CA8). Changing it to the 446 number you gave changed it to online and with drive letters. What's the significance of that number?

Copying files over now! I think *fingers crossed* I am done with this process! Thanks for your help guys

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

Brian_K — Fri, 04 May 2012 02:37:51 GMT

leemy wrote:
What's the significance of that number?

The CIA know what it means.

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

DaveH — Fri, 04 May 2012 05:18:12 GMT

A system can't have 2 drives with the same disk signature, windows will end up taking one offline so they don't conflict or collide.

Since you cloned your old drive to the new one, the disk signatures ended up the same so one of them had to be changed for both drives to work again on the same system.

The signature just had to be different than the other drive, any value would have worked as long as it was different.

I always use 44617665 because thats "Dave" converted into Hex. :smileyvery-happy:

Sorry but your user name was one letter too long.

But Brian gets the credit for this topic, all I did was help you get your old drive online.

I also agree with him that your now a little tight on space and you should do some spring cleaning.

Ideally you should always have no less than 20% free space on the drive and you really should have a lot more.

Maybe when you get everything squared away and your sure you don't need to boot back into your old drive, you can reformat it into one partition and use it for external storage so you can free up some more space.

Dave

Re: Two HDD Partitions clone to One SSD

leemy — Fri, 04 May 2012 06:18:54 GMT

Yeah, I have two external HDDs tthat I make copies too.. I'll offload some media files to them in order to free up the SSD space.

I havent felt an amazing boost in the SSD speed; is there a benchmarking tool you recommend? thanks.