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connchri
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Registered: ‎07-13-2013
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How to disable Norton Firewall and enable Windows Firewall

Hi,

 

I have Norton Internet Security and I wish to disable the Norton Firewall and enable the Windows Firewall - I can't seem to do this as it appears that Norton has taken over the management of the Firewalls - which I also don't want.

 

I have came accross a few posts regarding this without a solution.  I don't wish to discuss why I want to do this - as many of the previous 'solutions' we're quite condesending and only offered how to change settings in Norton Firewall to get the job done.  I DON'T want this.

 

So, how can I set up NIS to to hand control of the firewalls back to Windows Security Centre and allow me to enable Windows firewall and disable NIS's firewall?  I now only want to use NIS for it's anti-virus capability.

 

Thanks,


Chris.

SendOfJive
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Re: How to disable Norton Firewall and enable Windows Firewall

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"Microsoft is well aware that most users install a 'real' firewall or security suite and turn off Windows Firewall. In the past, many third-party security products have automatically turned off Windows Firewall to avoid conflicts. In Windows 7, Microsoft does the job itself. When you have a recognized third party firewall installed it turns off the built-in firewall, disables its settings, and reports 'These settings are being managed by vendor application such-and-such.'" - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2335235,00.asp

 

I know no way of enabling the Windows Firewall, unless you uninstall Norton Internet Security.  This question arises with many third-party firewalls, so if there were a viable way of doing this, I'm sure it could be found easly in a web search.

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connchri
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Registered: ‎07-13-2013

Re: How to disable Norton Firewall and enable Windows Firewall

"Microsoft is well aware that most users install a 'real' firewall or security suite and turn off Windows Firewall. In the past, many third-party security products have automatically turned off Windows Firewall to avoid conflicts. In Windows 7, Microsoft does the job itself. When you have a recognized third party firewall installed it turns off the built-in firewall, disables its settings, and reports 'These settings are being managed by vendor application such-and-such.'" - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2335235,00.asp

I will ignore this attempt to put the blame squarely at MS.  Beside the article being written a year before Windows 7 was generally available to the public, we are talking about the fact that NIS takes over the MANAGEMENT from the Windows Action/Security centre - not just the fact that Windows will give way to other Firewalls by default.  With any other 3rd party firewall I have used I can, via the action centre, switch over to the Windows firewall if I so wish.  Not so with NIS, as it not only takes over the Firewall, but also over the Action centre that allows you to choose which firewall you wish - and the most upsetting part is NIS itself does not allow you the choice once it has took over the Action Centre.

There seems to be only one viable solution - uninstallation.  I have already done this and solved the initial issue I had with NIS firewall (And no, I'm not configuring NIS Firewall and settings that would take more time that actually installing the software I was trying to install - Windows Firewall is seemeless with it, and I think a firewall that is no more effective but more hassle is a bad thing).

Issue is now solve - I think this is a major issue with NIS, there's no need for this enforement of Norton services.  The option should at least be there.

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joen
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Registered: ‎11-20-2009

Re: How to disable Norton Firewall and enable Windows Firewall

> I will ignore this attempt to put the blame squarely at MS.

Now that would be a _real_ mistake lol.

Set aside the operating system for a moment.  How many of MS's _other products_, big or small, would be considered a high quality, top tier product.  One that competes well with other products of its type.

Don't say Office.  That may have been true once upon a time (prior to Office 2007).  But no more.  It now badly suffers from feature bloat.

But firewall, browser, silverlight, media player, photo viewer, sidebar, ... .  Big or small, not a whole lot of quality there.

In each niche area, you can usually find a high quality substitute product.

>  I now only want to use NIS for it's anti-virus capability.

Doesn't Norton AntiVirus satisfy your needs?  AV without a firewall.

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connchri
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Re: How to disable Norton Firewall and enable Windows Firewall

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"But firewall, browser, silverlight, media player, photo viewer, sidebar, ... .  Big or small, not a whole lot of quality there."

  

I know it's the cool thing to hate MS, but actually, as someone who has built computers for as long as I remember I like the non-cool camp for integration and lack of issues.  I use my workstation for exactly that - work, and I get more issues with 3rd party applications than I ever do with MS's.  I use WMP as my default media player - once I install the "mediaplayercodecpack", Great stuff.  Photoviewer does its job admirably, I don't use the side bar - it's disabled as default in Win7, it's a gimmick alongside anything else like it.  And as for IE10, just like IE9, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it and I have had less issues with that as I have done with Firefox in the past - fact! (look at the NIS and Firefox issues in the main thread, proof of point?).

 

Now, as far as free firewalls go, there is nothing wrong with Windows' built in firewall.  It also does its job.  A firewall is not an overly complex thing that needs a third party badge placed on it to do its job.  Alas, all the cool kids think otherwise though.  At one time, Norton was given the same bad name - and still has a bad reputation from some yesteryear products that I believe is now unwarranted - I think the same now definitely applies to Microsoft.

 

"Don't say Office".  I'm afraid I will say office.  Office sets the bar for office apps - saying otherwise is so out of touch, and its market share shows it obviously competes fantastically.  I've yet to see another Office Package to take its place anywhere in the Power Industry.  The power of macro's and visual studio integration in MS office is exceptionally powerful and useful, hence the reason it's used in industry and my line of work.  Open Office - or the Libre fork if you so wish to compare - doesn't touch it.   Its Database app is hopelessly inadequate and buggy when you get far enough into one, and formulae support, as needed in my line of work, more or less doesn't exist.  Have you better suggestions?  And what 'bloat' do you refer to?  Or should I get some more of that cool aid?  It might appear bloated if the most you use it for is high school work or your shopping list - but let’s be honest, that's not its target market.

  

We'll need to agree to disagree on the MS front.  But I doubt you could suggest alternatives for office that would integrate with the systems I use, or support the documents correctly that I need (the Issue of formulae support is a noted issue here - from EXPERIENCE). So "In each niche area, you can usually find a high quality substitute product" simply isn't applicable, or really even required, here.

  

But I digress, this post was over the fact NIS takes over the management and refuses to give you the choice.  It was interfering with my apps and gave me a right 8 hour headache yesterday - hardly reasonable for such a great brand. I was hoping to find help in turning off NIS firewall, and re-enabling Windows firewall.  This is a completely unnecessary restriction.  You are correct, AV would suffice, and I should have purchased just that, but I got a good deal and didn't realise that NIS takes over your machine and treats you like a toddler - and doesn't even offer you the options if you are bold enough to think you can go without the nappies (diapers).  Hindsight is a wonderful thing and I didn't foresee the issues I had with NIS firewall, hence the need to disable it and return to MS Firewall, and I don't have the inclination or time to fiddle with something that is more of a hindrance over Windows' own firewall.

 

And thank you for your unwarranted, and entirely opinion based, non-helpful contribution - it's similar to the condescending posts I read on NIS issues before I posted my own thread, that I had indicated I wanted to avoid - hence this rather brutal reply.

 

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bjm_
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Re: How to disable Norton Firewall and enable Windows Firewall

$.02

Reach out to Norton Cust Support re changing your Norton product from NIS to NAV

 

 

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connchri
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Re: How to disable Norton Firewall and enable Windows Firewall

"Reach out to Norton Cust Support re changing your Norton product from NIS to NAV"

Never considered this - I was going to simply aim for a refund and buy in seperately.  Thanks v much, could save the hassle as I was unaware they'd do this.

 

Chris.

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connchri
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Registered: ‎07-13-2013

Re: How to disable Norton Firewall and enable Windows Firewall

They have indeed changed the NIS to NAV.


Fantastic suggestion, should've thought of it myself.

 

Cheers again!

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bjm_
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Re: How to disable Norton Firewall and enable Windows Firewall

Cheers

bjm :smileyhappy: