09-17-2011 02:21 PM
I've got an old laptop with a Windows XP installation dating from 2005. It works well, but I just discovered that I had only 10% free space on the C: partition. About two months ago, it was some 30% free space. The C partition is only 11.2 GB in capacity, but it is not normal that it gets filled up this rapidly.
The only new program I had installed over the last months was Microsoft BootVis. It created a huge log file, but I have now un-installed BootVis and deleted the log file and other files I could find. I have also deleted some other files and un-installed a instant messaging program, now I have 17% free capacity on C. Trying to understand what is using the 15 or so percent of the space I'm still missing, I have had a close look at folders in Documents & Settings, and C:\Program Files.
My biggest surprise is that C:\Program Files\Fellesfiler\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs is 2.09 GB big. This is just too much and I want to know how much in there can I delete? I think many sub-folders there contain old virus defs, but I don't need them now? The latest virus defs do contain also old defs?
Windows XP Pro
09-17-2011 03:03 PM - edited 09-17-2011 03:05 PM
Thanks, but I've got reasons to use NIS 2007. I need the add-on pack with the ad filter.
Back to my question, can I delete some old virus defs? And is not LiveUpdate supposed to overwrite old defs to avoid this problem?
09-17-2011 04:07 PM - edited 09-17-2011 04:12 PM
This is a fairly common problem with older versions that were designed in an era before hundreds or even thousands of new definitions needed to be released each day to keep pace with malware. Newer versions manage the definition sets better and you should consider moving to NIS 2012. The add-on pack is no longer supported for any version. Additionally, the protection against current types of malware is inadequate or missing altogether in versions from years ago. You really are going without sufficient protection against the sorts of threats that you are actually most likely to encounter.
09-17-2011 06:17 PM
I'm not sure how another ad-block will work out for me, I've learned to use this Norton feature. Browser-based ad-blocks are not as good because Norton ad-block works on firewall level, thus it will block ads for all programs.
> "Additionally, the protection against current types of malware is inadequate or missing altogether in versions from years ago. You really are going without sufficient protection against the sorts of threats that you are actually most likely to encounter."
Lol, I wonder what you would say if you knew I'm on XP SP1. Also this is a reason to stick with NIS 2007, I believe the later versions will not work on SP1.
So I'm using a vulnerable system with old NIS. I don't know why I've not had any infections, maybe because I'm a low-risk Internet user. And I do think that many infections are coming from adverts, so having this very good ad-block is reducing the risk. I also do not use Internet Explorer.
I know I'll have to upgrade some day, but not today.
I wonder if a short term fix would be to just delete some definitions folders and then run LiveUpdate, or if I have to uninstall LiveUpdate and reinstall it again?
09-17-2011 06:23 PM
I don't know how far back your definitions go but it should be possible to delete most of them and then run live update to build back a current set so that your protection isn't compromised.
This is not an official opinion!
09-17-2011 06:48 PM
Is there some reason that you cannot move beyond XP SP1? You are definitely leading a charmed life. What browser do you use? In your position you should certainly be creating backups of everything religiously - at some point you are probably going to need them.
09-17-2011 07:41 PM
Hi No_Toolbar, just wanted to add one thing, most of the newer browsers block popup for you and is really easy to use. It wont block in page adds though but would prevent popups.
09-17-2011 10:17 PM
I grew tired of the updating and the only things I update are the anti-malware apps. It takes forever to run Windows Update, and after that it takes forever to install the updates. It's a long time ago but I think it was Microsoft's spyware that was the final straw, they demand that you install it in order to update. I had it for a while without knowing, but when I found out I removed it and became unable to use Win Update. But I've not missed WinUpdate, it feels good to not have to think about it. :)
Almost all programs get updates and it's too overwhelming. I don't care as long as the pc works, and so far (10 years) I've not had to fix it. I run Norton LU about three times a week and I update Spybot now and then. Who knows, maybe I have a rootkit that I don't know about, but I have never had any malware that was detectable.
Other people I know are using automatic update on everything and should be more secure than I am, but they do get malware and I don't. Maybe it's because the biggest security hole is between the chair and the keyboard? ;)
I use Opera. Popups don't bother me because I almost never get one. What drives me crazy is banners and regular ads that are animated. And these days almost all ads are animated. I need web pages that don't move. The ad-block in Opera can't do that, what happens is I block an ad and next time the webpage displays another ad that's not blocked. And the ad-block in one browser can not block ads in another browser or in another program because the filter is not in the firewall.
Maybe the ad-block in Firefox is more effective than Opera's, but I don't like Firefox.
What I need to stop ads, is a filter in the firewall, just like Norton's add-on pack.
09-17-2011 10:31 PM
@No_Toolbar, I can check and see if there are any newer products that do that at firewall level, but never updating your system is very dangerous. The reason is that when Microsoft releases a patch it is telling the bad guys how to hack into your operating system. If you do not keep your OS up to date you can get infected by a drive by download from an infected site or email. I understand where you are coming from but I just felt it was my duty to let you know about the dangers out there. I am amazed that you have not been infected yet.