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ProTruckDriver
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Is there a Bug in Safe Mode Scan?

My scan Preformance Profiles setting is set to: FULL SCAN.

I did a FULL SCAN in regular mode and the results were : No Threats Found.

I then did a FULL SCAN in Safe Mode with the following results:

 

Safe Mode Full Scan.PNG

AllenM
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Re: Is there a Bug in Safe Mode Scan?

Hi ProTruckDriver,

 

There is another thread where something like this was recently reported. Please see this thread. There is nothing official in terms of a bug regarding this. All known isssues affecting customers are listed in the post below.

 

http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-Internet-Security-Norton/Known-Issues-with-NIS-19-1/m-p/533014

 

I'm doing some testing on my test laptop as we speak and will update this thread when I have some results to share.

 

Best wishes.

Allen

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Re: Is there a Bug in Safe Mode Scan?

Similar results here. I have 8 detections in Safe mode. All detections are located in MSI files with 6 of these MSI files being located in the Factory Image partition. Scan comparison example below:

 

In Safe Mode:

 

Unresolved Threats:
Risks in compressed file "15421.msi"
 Type: Compressed
 Risk: High (High Stealth, High Removal, High Performance, High Privacy) 
 Categories: Heuristic Virus
 Status: Not Attempted
 -----------
 1 File
[c:\windows\installer\15421.msi] - Not Attempted

 

In Normal mode:

 

Scan Statistics:
  Scan Time: 1 seconds
  Scan Targets: C:\Windows\Installer\15421.msi
  Counts:
   Total items scanned: 48
   - Files & Directories: 48
   - Registry Entries: 0
   - Processes & Start-up Items: 0
   - Network & Browser Items: 0
   - Other: 0
   - Trusted Files: 0
   - Skipped Files: 0

   Total security risks detected: 0
   Total items resolved: 0
   Total items that require attention: 0

Resolved Threats:
No risks have been resolved

Unresolved Threats:
No unresolved risks

AllenM
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Re: Is there a Bug in Safe Mode Scan?

I picked up 5 detections during a SAFE mode scan, all in compressed files. I believe all of them were MSI's - I saved a screenshot of them and will check later.

 

I'm still running other scans. the NBRT scan just completed as I started writing this reply with NO detections.

 

My next scan will be SAFE mode with networking to see if this makes any difference.

 

More to follow.

 

Allen

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Re: Is there a Bug in Safe Mode Scan?

Hello Everyone,

 

I can't look into this right now, but I can on Monday. Looks like there might be a problem, and I have a feeling scanning with networking on might make a deference. Please let us know AllenM if it does.

 

AllenM
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Re: Is there a Bug in Safe Mode Scan?

HI michaell,

 

The SAFE mode with networking appears to have made no difference.

 

SAFE mode both with and without networking detected 5 heuristic detections, all with MSI files. Now interestingly enough I just noticed that when viewing the details of those detections it actually only shows 3 detections depicted in the final screen. Five were shown as detected during the scan itself, all heuristic.

 

So to summarize: SAFE mode with and without networking indicated 5 detections, even though only 3 shown on the final screen. NBRT and NIS full scan under Normal mode showed NO detections.

 

Screenshot below.

 

Best wishes.

Allen

 

safe_mode_scan.png

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Re: Is there a Bug in Safe Mode Scan?

Hi ProTruckDriver,

I can say that this is not a bug. Safe Mode scan is most powerfull. In safe mode, only windows files will be loaded.

In normal mode, all files & services are loaded and if you are running a Full System scan there is a chance for getting some Heuristics to get skipped ( If the services are running ).

But in Safe mode, those services will not run and Norton will detect the same. 

Regards
Sym_KeN
AllenM
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Re: Is there a Bug in Safe Mode Scan?

[ Edited ]

Sym_KeN wrote:

Hi ProTruckDriver,

I can say that this is not a bug. Safe Mode scan is most powerfull. In safe mode, only windows files will be loaded.

In normal mode, all files & services are loaded and if you are running a Full System scan there is a chance for getting some Heuristics to get skipped ( If the services are running ).

But in Safe mode, those services will not run and Norton will detect the same. 


NBRT also does not find any problems with these same MSI files.

I also do not recall NIS 2011 reporting these issues during a Safe mode scan but I can test this again on my test laptop tomorrow if desired.

 

Best wishes.

Allen

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michaell
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Re: Is there a Bug in Safe Mode Scan?

AllenM, could you do that? Would be interesting to see if there is a difference. I am still going to test it myself Monday to double check this.

AllenM
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Re: Is there a Bug in Safe Mode Scan?


michaell wrote:

AllenM, could you do that? Would be interesting to see if there is a difference. I am still going to test it myself Monday to double check this.


Hi michaell,

 

Sure, will do. :smileyhappy:

 

Thanks

Allen

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