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Niko233
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Registered: ‎06-25-2010
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NIS 2011 allows downloads from malicious sites

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Going to malicious site...

here is example with hxxp://celebsalon.net/2/1.php [link edited to prohibit accidental clicks; replace hxxp with http]

then in order:

site in opening, .exe malware file is downloading and only than Norton waking up and load it own page content with warning message.

 

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Strange actions order to protect, isn't?)

 

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if something new appears - it is not that it is better than old [NIS 2011 comparing NIS 2010]

 


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Quads
Posts: 13,250
Registered: ‎07-21-2008

Re: NIS 2011: fake message of malicious sites blocking

Deceptive thread subject line here

 

It's not that the Norton Site blocking message is fake,  but that Norton a) shows the message late and b) that the download from that site is allowed to download.

 

Quads

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Niko233
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Registered: ‎06-25-2010

Re: NIS 2011: fake message of malicious sites blocking

may be is, sorry for that. I just want to say that the Norton message about blocking is not true: site can be accessed before Norton blocks it.

 

If I think right - download can be only after the page is loaded. So if file is starting to download than the page was loaded and was not blocked by Norton as it says after that.

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Niko233
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Re: NIS 2011: fake message of malicious sites blocking

another example:

go to hxxp://dkejlky.co.cc/v2/out/sk.exe

first you will receive original page: 404 error - page not found

after that Norton's page about that this site was pseudo blocked.

Click "Continue" and you receive original page with error 404 again.

 

Site blocking is not working and it is providing fake messages about that site was blocked, but it is not blocked as we can see - page content and downloads are able from this pseudo blocking sites. Norton's misleading page messages...

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mythbuster
Posts: 290
Registered: ‎12-10-2008

Re: NIS 2011 allows downloads from malicious sites

Nikko223,

 

That's an interesting test. I think the downloads are not getting caught by Download Insight. However, can anyone comment on what happens after the file is downloaded completely. I think the real time protection should be able to scan the file and act on it.

 

Any thoughts.

 

-MbR

"Mythbuster is now a SUPER keylogger crusher" - MbR
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Tywin7
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Re: NIS 2011 allows downloads from malicious sites

This is very dangerous behavior.  Another thing I would like to chime in is that using the Norton DNS should block this download right?

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Quads
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Re: NIS 2011 allows downloads from malicious sites

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File downloaded is detected as Trojan.FakeAV!gen29 by Norton

 

Though I do see it would be nice to see if Norton shows it's a bad site it would block everything from the site including downloads so there will be no download to click etc.

 

Quads

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John_Harrison
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Registered: ‎06-04-2008

Re: NIS 2011 allows downloads from malicious sites

Thanks for reporting that.  I sent a note to our Symantec Safe Web team to investigate the particular behavior of blocking the page but allowing the file download.

 

I did confirm in our isolated infection network that even though the file is downloaded that both our Ubiquity/Reputation technology and our Sonar 3 technology detect and remove the file.  Do NOT try that at home or work. 


Thanks,
John

John Harrison, aka “Dr. Drive-By”
Symantec Security Technology and Response
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Quads
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Re: NIS 2011 allows downloads from malicious sites

 


John_Harrison wrote:

 

I did confirm in our isolated infection network that even though the file is downloaded that both our Ubiquity/Reputation technology and our Sonar 3 technology detect and remove the file.  Do NOT try that at home or work


Thanks,
John


 

Quads does :smileytongue: :smileyvery-happy:

 

Quads

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Niko233
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Re: NIS 2011 allows downloads from malicious sites

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Quads always do something, that strictly restricted))) only give him a new link, and as soon as possible... :smileywink:

 

Quads, view Norton Trusted feature, that have no payload (at least I can't find it):

- create a new text file;

- enter two letters: MZ

- save and close editor (simple editor like Notepad.exe, not like MS Word it will add other housekeeping data to file)

- change file extension to be able to view Norton File Insight info (for example to .exe or .msi or .dll or .sys or others)

File will be Norton Trusted, why.... so simple to scan file was added to white list... i have no answer