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[Lord-Vladimir]

The point is, that people like The_Hulk demand that your software protects them against everthing.....

That they can click on every shady link and nothing wil happen to them.

The truth is, that you are always running 1 or 2 steps behind scammers, mallwarewriters, etc 

The safeweb is a bit sloppy and the idea of a questionmark is not that bad. Show the people that Norton hasn't tested the website yet. This would give a greater value to the site witch already been tested.

But make sure that the data is correct! There are some big fails in you 'white' list! Click!

Internet safety starts with your own eyes and guts, every AV is just a web with some gaps in it and won't protect you against the dangers of the internet.

As for The_Hulk....

He found out how the real world works and that made him a bit green and blatant. Just like the real thing   

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Quote Hulk:

Never write in that screen 'Site is safe', 'No phishing detected'. It isn't wright, it's wrong, you don't know, it's fantasy, fiction etc. etc.

Please stop crying.

No phishing detected was correct, NIS couldn't know it was a phishing site. Why? Because I know the rules and made the site not recognizable as a phishingsite..... The same with the phishing Email, are you gonna accuse your ISP for not recognize it as spam? Have you written Spamassasin yet? Welcome to the real world!

Btw

You still owe me 2 crates of beer 

[The_Hulk]

@Lord-Vladimir, you told me I was telling lies and you were correct. I say Norton is telling lies by giving the statement 'Site is safe'. But as in the past Microsoft, Symantec and even you don't listen to ordinary people and users of sofware. You are better, know more and stand above people.  I give a **** and give a **bleep**, because I'm honest and work for a good course.

Of course I'm very disappointed. I'm using several Norton products, Norton Utilities, NIS, Norton 360 and Ghost. But when a product tells me lies, it's over. 

[edit: Profanity removed as per community Terms of Service]

[Lord-Vladimir]

You are totally right ! 

I do stand above people, I do know more and I'm better then everybody else!

But there is no reason to attack Norton and scream like a little child. You claim to be a scientist, please behave like one and do your research. You will see, that no AV can meet your standards.

Like I said.. Welcome to the real world!

PS

Beer? 

[donziehm]

I agree with Hulk.

The issue here is proper system design. Norton shows a visual clue - green - to indicate a site is safe. Yes, additional detail is provided but is the average PC user going to go through the additonal effort of really doing the additional checking? The answer in most cases is no. Is this not a piece of sotware sold as "the savior of the masses?"

Fix the problem, Symantec. This isn't freebee software where you have to take what you get. This is paid subscription software and pricey at that.

[huwyngr Norton Fighter]

Oh many of us understand what you say more clearly now in a few words than in all the rest of your emotes.

This point has already been raised by some of us and I suggest you could usefully post in the Norton Ideas Forum since that is precisely intended fo posting suggestions on improvements, new products and so on. Have a look through the existing posts there and if you find it has been posted then add a Kudos to the first message since that is what Norton keeps an eye on, and we are told that that Norton Ideas Forums area  is monitored by many more of Norton management than are active here in the forums.

[Lord-Vladimir]

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This point has already been raised by some of us and I suggest you could usefully post in the Norton Ideas Forum since that is precisely intended fo posting suggestions on improvements, new products and so on. Have a look through the existing posts there and if you find it has been posted then add a Kudos to the first message since that is what Norton keeps an eye on, and we are told that that Norton Ideas Forums area  is monitored by many more of Norton management than are active here in the forums.

And that, gentlemen, is your job.

I don't use any products of Norton. My commen sense and Avast has kept me safe for years.

Every bit of software has its flaws and instead of shouting "The piece of software sucks!" you can contribute the mistakes and help to make a better product.

Norton is reliable, but you still need a bit of commen sense!

[huwyngr Norton Fighter]

Vlad,

Since you quote from my message I'll quote back from yours ....

<< And that, gentlemen, is your job.  >>

Well actually it isn't ... not a single person posting in this thread (unless perhaps The Hulk or you yourself) are employed by Norton .......

Have a great night ....

[AllenM Norton Fighter]

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The_Hulk wrote:

Thank you very much SendOfJive. You're the only one who understands the real issue. The whole point is that you must never give a conclusion or outcome when the site is not tested. Never write in that screen 'Site is safe', 'No phishing detected'. It isn't wright, it's wrong, you don't know, it's fantasy, fiction etc. etc.

When people read 'Site is safe', they automatically think, okay, it's safe, there is no danger.

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Hi The_Hulk,

Incorrect, I understood perfectly from the start what your complaint is and even agreed to the point that it would be better for it to show a ? or something instead of OK or safe so that it is more readily visible without having to drill down in the details. This is also why I suggested posting in the Norton Ideas forum.

Honestly, the problem I had with your approach is that you seem to be approaching this from a negative and vindictive standpoint intead of a more positive approach whereby you make your point and then use "positive" encouragement to try and effect a change. This is what posting on the Norton Ideas forum accomplishes.

I think you will find that your point goes over better when approached this way instead of statements you made like the following:

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I hope that people in the Netherlands who are the victim's of a plundered bankaccount  hold Symantec liable for damages and all loss of their money. Norton Internet Security has unequivocally stated that the site is safe and didn't hold any phishing (see image). Quilty as hell, a judge would say in  the Netherlands!

 

Best wishes.

Allen