10-08-2011 07:40 PM
In NIS 2012, when I select Support > Help I get sent to the online bot ('Nathan'). What became of the in-program help?
10-08-2011 11:34 PM
Hi Bulldoggy,
Norton 2012 products has gone to online Help, but Support > Help should bring you to the following page, not Nathan.
However I agree that in program Help should be available locally and I have passed this request on to Symantec.
Please also lend your voice of support to the following post which suggests that this be added back to Norton 2012.
Hope this helps.
Best wishes.
Allen
10-10-2011 11:17 PM
I beg your pardon? The 'help' link you provided opens a page called "About the Norton Internet Security advanced window" which is no help at all. My in-program Support > Help goes to:
which is the front page for the bot (Nathan.)
This is certainly a step backwards. The technical/engineering department at Symantec needs to kick the marketing department to the curb. Complaint registered at the URL you provided.
10-11-2011 01:10 AM - edited 10-11-2011 01:34 AM
Bulldoggy wrote:
This is certainly a step backwards. The technical/engineering department at Symantec needs to kick the marketing department to the curb. Complaint registered at the URL you provided.
Hi Bulldoggy,
According to the NIS 2012 release announcement, they claim that this is a step forward ... for Performance. What they said in the announcement was this:
Performance
Users need to keep their computers running faster – we understand that. If a product doesn't use system resources judiciously and causes the computer to slow down; users may disable certain protection features and get vulnerable to attacks. Performance is of utmost importance for security products. At Norton, performance is always at the heart of the improvements we make to the products and we continue to innovate to achieve better performance. For the 2012 release, we are working in 50+ areas related to performance. To highlight a few high-level areas:
Thus, what seems to have happened is this: Symantec apparently wanted to reduce the footprint of the download and the install size of the download, so one way to accomplish this, of course, was to do away with In-Program Help. That would eliminate lots and lots of lines of code! At least, that's one way to view it. ![]()
RichD
HP-Mini 110 -1020NR (netbook) 2GB RAM, CPU N270 @1.60GHz, Windows XP Home, SP3, NIS 2011 18.6.0.29 (installed 12h00 GMT 18-JUL-11) , FF5,IE8
10-11-2011 03:38 AM
With all due respect to you -- who has been a valued helper in this forum for years, and has contributed more to the Norton user community than I ever will -- that's a really lame post.
10-11-2011 05:55 AM
Hello Bulldoggy,
The information provided by RichD was merely an observation as to why the in-program help may have been eliminated in NIS2012; it does not in any way diminish your opinion of the issue.
Although I can fully appreciate your frustration, comments about another author and the good-faith efforts to provide an explanation do not serve to resolve the situation which I’m sure you will concur is the main objective in this topic.
Registering your dissatisfaction in the Product Suggestion thread has helped to accomplish this goal.
Thanks!
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10-11-2011 06:54 AM
Having vented my frustration, and not wishing to wear out my welcome here, I think it's time to bring an end to this thread.
10-11-2011 09:44 AM
Bulldoggy wrote:Having vented my frustration, and not wishing to wear out my welcome here, I think it's time to bring an end to this thread.
You can do sometehing much more useful -- Post a request for the restore of in-application HELP as it was before (or better) in the Forum Product Suggestions that is precisely for this purpose.
You are not alone in missing this help -- those of us offering support here miss it very much because we can often copy / paste a useful bit of information from it.
No comment on Nathan .... I'm sure there are some nice ones out there in the real world ....
So please do this -- or add Kudos to a message on this topic if it is already there -- since Norton Management do pay attention to that Forum.
Please .......
10-11-2011 10:08 AM - edited 10-11-2011 10:23 AM
Umm...
@ Bulldoggy and others...
Just my two cents...
I have felt very strongly from the beginning that the omission of a local (i.e. HDD/SSD resident) Help Facility will only cause chaos and confusion. How can a little itty bitty .CHM file slow down your system? Come on! System performance is a lame excuse on the part of Symantec, as is a Smaller footprint (at least from the standpoint of a Help Facility.)
The main reason why this was done, in my opinion is to have dynamically updated web pages for support and that is a good thing.
However, there are times that the Help Server is bogged down, negating the content/speed benefit or when you are using the program help offline and then there is no help facility available!
Here's what I propose:
1) Restore the Help System with a comprehensive, local, searchable help file.
2) Allow the user to check for additional information concerning the subject matter online, if available with a click.
NIS 2012 might just be at a point that nothing can be done to truly speed performance more than it is now, except for tweaking some algorithms and getting rid of some non-essential/seldom used features. I think it is overdeveloped.
NIS 2011 was just right in terms of performance and footprint. Too much eye candy compromises performance.
Part of the problem lies with the speed of the Internet and that is something for another thread.
Keep in mind that your broadband speed (or dial-up
) will constantly vary.
End of rant.
Atomic_Blast :)
