Norton Internet Security / Norton AntiVirus

[mdturner]

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Tech83 wrote:

Hi! Metalhead82,

I mostly was refering to the elderly and children;  if you feel comfortable insulting those age groups fine.  To each his own.

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Hi Tech83

I do not think that metalhead82 (or anyone else) would have been able to ascertain from your previous posts in this thread that you were referring to children and the elderly.

Message Edited by mdturner on 21-10-2009 07:15 AM

[Tech83 Super Phishing Phryer]

MetalHead82,

My apologizes on my prior statement; I admit it was being a jerk on my part.

[dbrisendine Norton Fighter]

Tech83 -

No reason for the apology; everybody is entitled to their own opinion here.  I think that having a defrag reminder in a suite that constantly downloads definitions and generates multiple logs is a good thing. 

[Tech83 Super Phishing Phryer]

Dbrisendine,

It does not excuse my rude and unprofessional attitude. :(  And Metalhead82 as well as other forum readers do deserve an apology.

Please do not get me wrong I appreciate your statement, but as said earlier I was rude and unprofessional.

[davidm71]

So I was looking at the description of all the other antivirus products symantec offers and the NIS 2010 is the only one that offers antispam features while the 360 and the regular antivirus do not offer antispam. But the 360 offers the backup and restore feature while all the others do not while still lacking optimization features so I guess they should rename it Norton 270 instead...

I just want to make it clear though that since 2009 I love their Antivirus feature. It did wonders curing a worm problem I had once. I just think that this optimization feature is misplaced and should be in another product. Its bad for SSDs which will die an early death if optimized frequently. I wish someone at Symantec will take note of this discussion and throw this feature into the 360 product instead to make all these folks who have no idea what it is to optimize a drive happy, and make guys like me who just want NIS without the bells and whistles happy...

Thanks.

[mdturner]

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davidm71 wrote:

So I was looking at the description of all the other antivirus products symantec offers and the NIS 2010 is the only one that offers antispam features while the 360 and the regular antivirus do not offer antispam. But the 360 offers the backup and restore feature while all the others do not while still lacking optimization features so I guess they should rename it Norton 270 instead...

I just want to make it clear though that since 2009 I love their Antivirus feature. It did wonders curing a worm problem I had once. I just think that this optimization feature is misplaced and should be in another product. Its bad for SSDs which will die an early death if optimized frequently. I wish someone at Symantec will take note of this discussion and throw this feature into the 360 product instead to make all these folks who have no idea what it is to optimize a drive happy, and make guys like me who just want NIS without the bells and whistles happy...

Thanks.

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Hi davidm71

Perhaps you missed it in the descriptions you were looking at but Norton 360 does have anti-spam.

[Yaso_Kuuhl Norton Fighter]

davidm71:

As mdturner has pointed out, Norton 360 includes an antispam feature. You can read more over here:

http://www.symantec.com/norton/security_response/spam.jsp

I also copied the following from the webpage above:

Both Norton Internet Security™ and Norton 360™ offer antispam capability to automatically filter out annoying, dangerous or fraudulent emails from your inbox.

Message Edited by Yaso_Kuuhl on 10-21-2009 02:38 PM

[elsewhere]

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davidm71 wrote:

They should just change the name of the product to Nis Suite 2010 instead. Might as well throw in Norton utilities and have it make a cup of coffee too! They're probably trying to market against Ashampoo and Iolo which have a Swiss army knife set of features. I'm just in the opinion that an antivirus should use the least amount of system resources as possible.

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Your hypothetical 'NIS 2010 + bonus Norton Utilities' product combination already exists as I bought this combo as a retail package a couple of weeks ago. Missing the coffee vouchers though!

If I install the Norton Utilities software do I now have three 'defrag' utilities looking after my disks?

Message Edited by elsewhere on 10-22-2009 03:51 AM

[Turbo]

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metalhead82 wrote:

Personally, I hold the opinion that this 'feature' shouldn't be in NIS or NAV either. There was a big debate about this in the Beta forums when 2010 was in beta.

Recent Windows operating systems, such as Vista and Windows 7, have automatic scheduled defragmentation which runs at a regular enough interval to keep the majority of systems happily fragmentation free and the disk performing at it's best.

I don't believe that an Antivirus program should be defragmenting my system everytime I install something. The name 'Optimiser' is stretching the truth a little too, all it does is calls 'defrag.exe c:', it doesn't do anything special, it runs a defrag....wow!

Yes, it can be disabled, but why on earth is it there in the first place in an Antivirus program? It's a feature which increases the cost of the product as someone has to spend time developing it and it's superfluous to users of Vista and Windows 7.

Remove it I say.

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I agree with metalhead82, this so called optimizer should not be incorporated into NIS or NAV. With the introduction of superfluous junk like this there is a real danger of returning to the bloat that made people abandon Norton products in droves just a few years ago. Symantec, if you're listening, at least make this optimizer an option that users can choose to opt out of during the installation process.

[drshlomo]

Turbo wrote:-

 With the introduction of superfluous junk like this there is a real danger of returning to the bloat that made people abandon Norton products in droves just a few years ago.

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Calling a Norton feature "Junk" is, in my opinion, highly insulting to the Symantec employees who work so hard to produce such an excellent product.  Also, so many of us really appreciate this item, even if you do not.

How do you know if people were driven away and, if so, for what reason?

I think that it would be far better if you kept to known facts and express your opinions without degrading others.

drshlomo.