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ianbrenner
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎03-24-2011

false detection made by Sonar

Hi,

 

we have a software product, which makes automated updates from our web site. Unfortunately, when the exe file will be updated, Sonar makes false virus detection, and deletes it.

 

We have reported alredy this behaviour, and we received the answer, that our product will be placed on white list. Unfortunately the false detection after automated upgrade seems to be still existing, and we don't know how to avoid it.

 

Could you please advise what could be done to assure false detection free upgrades in our product?

 

Regards,

Ian

Regular Contributor
BanMidou
Posts: 721
Registered: ‎12-17-2010

Re: false detection made by Sonar

Hi  Welcome to Norton community!

 

 

sorry you had this problem!

 

 

 

Please submit in any of the following links

 

https://submit.symantec.com/whitelist/

 

 

https://submit.symantec.com/false_positive/insight/

 

 

https://submit.symantec.com/false_positive/

 

 

it will take sometime to analyse so till then

 

Restore the item from quarantine and tick mark the exclude option!!

Midou

Visitor
ianbrenner
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎03-24-2011

Re: false detection made by Sonar

Hi,

 

we have submitted it more times already (also today, that was the third time).

 

The problem is, that the program makes automated updates, and it seems, the new updated exe is not protected from false detection. It seems that filling these forms does not solve the problem.

 

If the program is on the white list (which is the case already according to the answer of STAR), could it be upgraded without new false detection?

 

Regards,

Ian

Regular Contributor
BanMidou
Posts: 721
Registered: ‎12-17-2010

Re: false detection made by Sonar

I`m sorry but I think you should wait till someone from syamntec team show up sorry!! for inconvenience

 

But be patient

Midou

Symantec Employee
Scott_D
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎02-23-2011

Re: false detection made by Sonar

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Hi, Ian..

 

Sorry to hear that Sonar is FPing on your Application.  Can you tell me what the Application is? You can PM me, if needed.

 

Applications that get whitelisted should no longer get detected.   We need to examine the program getting the update, as well as the update package that is being applied on the system.

 

NIS is designed to detect different types of applications and react accordingly..  If it is unknown, then our SONAR heuristic engine kicks in and examines the application before making any sort of conviction.    So we need to look at the downloaded package, as well as the program doing the downloading and determine why the conviction is occuring.  The more info on it, the better it will help us improve our detection accuracy.

 

Scott Dang

SQA Manager, Symantec Corporation

Behavioral Analysis and System Heuristics

Visitor
ianbrenner
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎03-24-2011

Re: false detection made by Sonar

Hi Scott,

 

the application is AChat, we have reported the problem 3 times already. We have received the answer, that the false detection will be eliminated. It seems to be true with the existing product, but as soon as we try an upgrade the the exe file, Sonar will delete it immediately again.

 

As we make 2 upgrades every week to have satisfied customers, Norton Antivirus makes our life impossible, we can recommend to the customers only to switch off Sonar, as it is definitely a false detection, it was admitted by Symantec too. We run 7 antivirus softwares on our computers (should I list all of them?), and only Sonar makes this false detection at the moment.

 

We don't know what will be examined by Sonar, so we cannot modify our program to avoid false detection.

 

We can provide all information you need, we have done it already also via E-mail, when Symantec Security Response asked for it, without result till now.

 

Waiting for further help to avoid false detection.

 

Regards,

Ian

Symantec Employee
Barrett
Posts: 54
Registered: ‎08-25-2009

Re: false detection made by Sonar

Hi Ian,

 

Can you check your private messages.  Thanks!

 

Barrett

Visitor
ianbrenner
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎03-24-2011

Re: false detection made by Sonar

Hi Barrett,

 

the required info was sent, please check it.

 

Regards,

Ian

Visitor
ianbrenner
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎03-24-2011

Re: false detection made by Sonar

Still nothing...

 

Could you please tell us how could we avoid this false detection made of Norton Antivirus 2011? We have provided all required information and can answer all questions you have.

 

Please Answer!

 

Regards,

Ian

dickevans
Posts: 9,196
Registered: ‎04-08-2008

Re: false detection made by Sonar

I'm not an employee but it sounds like you handed them a problem for which they had no instant answer

Please give them some more to find an answer and test it. I know a week can seem like a VERY long time but good work takes time

The team will respond just as soon as they are sure they have an answer you can depend on

Dick
Win7x64 SP1 current NIS V20