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does NiS have any compatability issues with Advanced System Care Free edition?

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I stay as far away from any system cleaners, registry tidiers etc as I can unless they firstly  tell me what they will change, secondly let me alter that listing (which means that I need to know as least as much about the technology it wants to change as the utility does) and thirdly enable me to go back to before the change without damaging any software I have installed ......

 

I've seen to many computers disabled by people cleaning up and getting rid of stuff Windows does not need ......

 

If you are tight for free drive space, get a larger hard drive -- they are very cheap these days.



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Are there any good registry cleaners that won't destry the computer?

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huwyngr wrote:

I stay as far away from any system cleaners, registry tidiers etc as I can   ......

 

Hi ,

 

I would tend to agree with Hugh.  I understand that there are at least two registry cleaner products that are marketed by companies owned by Symantec, but that doesn't necessarily mean that any of them are safe to be used in conjunction with Norton products.  In fact, I think it is somewhat dangerous to allow any registry cleaner to make decisions for the user, especially when the registry cleaner is used in "aggressive" mode.

 

I'm telling you this out of personal experience.

 

I don't have time here to go into all of the details, but the main point is that any registry cleaner/ optimizer has to first start with a definition of  "clean" or "optimized" .  But there doesn't seem to be any Microsoft-certified definition for these terms, and this is why each different registry cleaner will come up with a different list of items that it claims need to be "cleaned". 

 

In essence, what this means is that each registry cleaner/optimizer is the product of the imagination of the software engineer(s) who designed it, and that their idea of what constitutes a "clean" or "optimized" system might not match what the user has in mind.

 

I have many examples to illustrate this, but I won't take up the space here to list them.

 

My advice is along the line of Hugh's comments.  Try to educate yourself about the main components of system performance (e.g., disk defragmentation, memory allocation, process prioritization, etc.) and then proceed on your own to use standard Windows features to tune up your system.  Above all, don't rely on any "One click, optimize all"  freeeware or shareware products.

 

Also, the situation now in 2011 is much different from what it was like in 1995 with Windows 95 and the Windows Registry.  Back then there may have been some need to have special products that could clean up the registry so as to allow the system to perform better with limited CPU power, limited RAM and limited disk space;  Nowadays, however, CPUs are much faster, RAM and disk space are much less expensive, and there is hardly any point in trying to optimize a registry.   An unoptimized registry these days will run almost as fast as an optimized one when you have enough RAM and disk space installed.

RichD

 



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Shanyogi_360 wrote:

Are there any good registry cleaners that won't destry the computer?


CCleaner. I have never heard of it being over-aggressive in any way. However, it won't improve performance or anything. Registry cleaners promising that (and CCleaner doesn't) are lying, plain and simple.

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Shanyogi_360 wrote:

Are there any good registry cleaners that won't destry the computer?


CCleaner by Piriform.

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Shanyogi_360 wrote:

Are there any good registry cleaners that won't destry the computer?



What I'm trying to say is that it depends on the knowledgeabilty of the user, just like a surgeon with a scalpel .....

 

The Windows Registry is so complex -- I'm not even sure Microsoft knows what's in there and why! -- that there's no way a few entries that relate to an application that is no longer on your machine can have any effect (typical of what a cleaner will remove) can have any material effect because if the application is no longer there the entries won't be used and we are talking about a few lines out of millions!

 

If one has reason to believe that your registry has been damaged by a crash or malware then the solution is to investigate the cause, remedy the cause and then if all's well there's no reason to look further. If all is not well then one has to have the knowledge and experience to look in a labyrinth to find the proverbial needle ... if you don't mind a mixed metaphor!

 

Often the easy way to deal with something like that is to restore a good backup (you do make a full backup don't you?!) or reinstall Windows .... or go to a third party with the knowledge to fix it.

 

If you have a problem say with sluggishness or something like that then tell us about it and we can see if there's something we can do to pinpoint the cause before trying to fix it .....

 

But reverting to your actual question -- I do use CCleaner, as others here clearly do, and it meets my needs of telling what it's analysis shows, allowing me to change the listing and in the case of the Registry tool it offers to make a backup of the Registry before it makes the change.

 

By all means try it; it is free and if you run the Registry Tool look at the result of the analysis and ask yourself --

 

-- if I'm trying to solve a por

 

-- do I know what each of those entries would do if it is needed and so whether it is safe to delete it.

 

If you don't know, remember that Cricket umpires are taught a mantra that applies here too: "When in Doubt, Say Not Out"

 

CCleaner also includes other tools which I do find useful -- the general cleaner is a convenient way of getting rid of temp files and other stuff that is no longer in use, although WIndows has a function Disk Clean on the Properties TAB when you look a disk in Windows Explorer and the Startup tool is convenient since if you do have no longer needed entries you can delete them as well as disable them which is an additional function to what is built into Windows.

 

I'll try again to post this but my ISP is having line problems -- probably water -- and I've tried 3 times but I've learned to save the text to a Notepad file and not just relay on the Autosave ....

 

Now, what was your problem .... ? <s>



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Re: question 2

Hi Shanyogi _360,

 

Welcome to Norton community, Please help Norton  to serve you better by specifying your problems as the subject instead of      ''question 1' and 'question 2' while posting  this improves the visibility and immediate action

 

 

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Karthick.K