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[bmxrichard]

I have what seems to be a bad hard drive.

Using Ghost 12 to copy the hard drive to a USB drive until a new drive can be purchased.

Ghost 'copy' will not copy the drive. The bad drive has 2 partitions, one with OS and the other with recover files?

Read here to make 2 partitions on USB drive, then delete a partition to copy a partition. This would not work.

When I tried this approach I made a partition with 10gig and another with 130gig. Ghost would not copy the larger partitipn at all, after about 30 seconds of work to 'copy' I get an error EC8F17B3 'too many NTFS attributes'.

I tried copying the smaller partition first, this copy did complete however when looking at the USB drive there is now another (3rd) partition. That is not a problem (I think) as long as I get the drive copied before it dies.

I also tried to 'copy' the Vista partition onto the USB drive after deleting all partitions and full USB drive into 'unallocated space'. I still get the same EC8F17B3 error.

It would be nice to copy ALL the drive.

Any help appreciated.

Richard

[DaveH]

Don't try to do a "copy drive", chances are you will run into geometry problems.

Make an image of the system partition, it's called a "one time backup". 

Dave

[DaveH]

Delete the partitions on the external drive and then make one large NTFS partition.

Then image the system partition onto the external drive.  If, and only if,  you encounter errors because of bad sectors should you use the option to "skip bad sectors".  Then after the image is complete you will need to do a: chkdsk /r

on the drive and once again try to image it without skipping any bad sectors.

Best of luck,

Dave

[bmxrichard]

Finally had time to devote to this again. I am making an 'image' or one time backup currently.

Question on this way to copy the drive.
When I have another drive (day or 2) how will I put the one time backup on the new drive?

Thanks Dave for your help.

Richard

[DaveH]

Hopefully you get a good image without needing to skip any bad sectors.  That will ensure your able to recover the image without any problems.  Also look in disk management for any other hidden partitions.  If you find any, post a screen shot of disk management or describe them as best you can.   Some systems have diagnostic tools and stuff you may want to keep.

When you get the new drive, you will install the new drive in the laptop and then boot the system with the Ghost recovery disk or installation disk and use that to restore the image onto the new drive.

Check this post by Brian for the settings to use, since you have Vista you do not have a SRP partition so you will use the settings for Restore to a new HD if a SRP is not present

That was written for Ghost 15 but the settings should be the same for your version.

http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Norton-Products/Ghost-15-options-for-recovery/m-p/218202/highli...

If you have any questions, just ask.

Dave

[bmxrichard]

I read your last post and have attached a screen capture of the Disk Manager showing the second partition.

I needed to do some other things today but I made a one time backup of the small partition as I had the Vista partition. I hope that was correct.

I will read the post on restoring the drive. Maybe tomorrow I will have a new drive.

Thanks again for your help and I will post the results soon.

Richard

[bmxrichard]

I have installed the new drive and tried twice to restore the drive.The one time copy on the usb drive and new drive in laptop. Boot for Ghost. Restore work to about 90% complete then comes EA3902DC error, again with 'to many ntfs attributes'
Now what?.

[DaveH]

You said "One time Copy" but I'm sure you mean "One time backup"

You should have .v21 image files on the external drive at this point.

I'm also glad you copied the other partition, since it is before the operating system partition you would need to do a startup repair if you restored the system without it.

I'm really not sure what it is, it seems much too small for a recovery partition.

Use Brians guide for "For Copy Drive if a SRP is present" with the following changes.

http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Norton-Products/Ghost-15-options-for-recovery/m-p/218202/highli...

Restore the "toshiba" partition like you would a SRP partition but do not make it active.

Then restore the operating system partition with the following changes:

Use the option to make that partition active

Do not try to resize the partition.  Hopefully that will get you past the error, later you can expand the partition using disk managment.

Please try it again, if any partitions are present, delete them using the recovery disk before you begin and try those settings.

Let us know what happens.

Best of luck,

Dave