04-16-2012 03:12 PM
After all the hype recently about copy drive or cloning I thought I would experiment again and clone a drive with Ghost 15.
I prepared my existing cloned drive (160 GB) and ran a very latest backup with G15 onto my external drive.
My primary drive (source) is a 160 GB Sata 2 divided into 4 equal partitions running the following O/S :- XP Pro, Win Vista, Win 8 and Win 7. a multi boot machine.
I stuck to the system that I cloned the drive previously with Ghost 12 and to cut a long story short the clone failed.
The only O/S that worked was XP Pro and the other three failed to get past preparing the desktop and hung for ages.
I have tried all ways to get it to work without success and can now fully understand Ghost 15 users getting frustrated.
I would think that a single partition or drive wouldn't be a problem but a multi boot is a no go with G15.
I had to revert back to my tried and trusted Ghost 12 to produce a clone again that works ok, yes there are extra entries in the boot menu that needed deleting but I have posted this thread on the cloned drive.
Deric
04-16-2012 03:23 PM
Deric,
Did you do Copy Drive with both HDs in your computer?
I recall you and I did tests using Ghost 15 with your 4 OS setup. There was a BCD issue and two OS didn't boot. Ghost 12 didn't have this problem.
04-17-2012 12:58 AM
Brian_K wrote:Deric,
Did you do Copy Drive with both HDs in your computer?
I recall you and I did tests using Ghost 15 with your 4 OS setup. There was a BCD issue and two OS didn't boot. Ghost 12 didn't have this problem.
Brian,
No mate,
but you are right we did do some tests but I thought that I would have another go at it.
I followed the rules rigidly and did an "Image-Transfer", I tried twice to get it to work with G15 and in both cases Vista, Win 7 and Win 8 would run but hung on preparing the desktop.
Ghost 12 is perfect, so easy to do, no need to use the edit function and I noticed when G15 was transferring the image it ran a format as well and there were no phantom drives to delete, weird.
Deric
04-17-2012 01:16 AM
Deric,
I'm confused. The title of this thread is Copy Drive Failure but you didn't do Copy Drive. You did Image/Restore. Is that correct?
04-17-2012 04:14 AM
Brian,
Yes you are right, my fault, my apologies, I should have titled it Image-restore.
I thought about it later on and what I will do this afternoon is a "Drive Copy" with Ghost 15 and let you know.
If that fails I will do a similar exercise with Ghost 12.
I know that your preference is an image-restore and I find that method easy with G12, but more complicated with G15 what with the phantom drive and the edit function.
I will get back to you later on with exactly the options I used.
Deric
04-17-2012 07:28 AM
Scary.
Surely if one runs a full set of images from the source drive and then restores the sv2i to a new blank drive it should correctly recreate everthing as it was?
04-17-2012 10:29 AM - edited 04-17-2012 10:30 AM
philipm785,
We don't recommend using the .sv2i at all. For example, if you restore the SRP and Win7 images to a blank HD using the .sv2i, Ghost restores them in reverse order. The SRP becomes the second partition and Win7 doesn't boot. Ghost 15 works fine if you restore the images individually. But not with Deric's setup.
04-17-2012 10:59 AM
Brian,
Bad news I am afraid, the "Copy My Hard Drive" went ok,ticked all the right boxes etc. but when I shut the pc down and took out the primary drive just leaving the target drive in place it had completely messed up the Windows boot manager,there were 3 extra entries "Windows Vista / Windows server 2008 / Windows7.
I did manage to boot XP and Vista but Win 7 showed a message on a light blue screen "This version of Windows is not genuine" build 7601.
I swapped over the drives and left out the target drive and boot manager was still all messed up.
There were also 2 entries for XP, I think one was Win 2003. I had no option but to reimage with last Saturday's G12 backup so that I can run a "Copy my hard drive" with Ghost 12.
I both cases with a multi boot Ghost 15 failed again.For other users benefit who are interested in this thread my multi boot has a single drive with 4 equal partitions and all partitions are what I call simple basic partitions containing O/Ss, no MRP or SRP or recovery partitions.
I am now going to do a "Copy My Hard Drive" with Ghost 12 purely to prove a point, will get back to you in a couple of hours with the results.
Deric
04-17-2012 11:17 AM - edited 04-17-2012 11:26 AM
DStain wrote:no MRP or SRP or recovery partitions.
Deric,
Just out of interest, when you are booted into Win7, does the WinXP partition show as System, Active in Disk Management?
Edit... I just saw your Disk Management screenshot. Yes, your WinXP is a de facto SRP. That's how the Microsoft Boot Manager works.
04-17-2012 02:27 PM
Brian,
Just managed to get back up and running from 7:00pm, the "Copy My Hard Drive" failed completely with Ghost 12.
I couldn't boot at all both when I disconnected the primary drive and left the target drive on it's own and when I swapped over back to the primary drive and disconnected the the target drive.
Again it messed up Windows boot manager, asking to insert the installation disk but I couldn't boot into any O/S to do a repair, completely messed up.
Again I had no alternative than to reimage with G12 backups.
I must admit I do not understand how Microsoft boot manager works all I know is when things are working properly boot manager is ok.
Here's the screen shot of D/M.
Deric
