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bjm_
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NBRT / Wizard ?'s

Hello Forum

 

I used the Wizard to create on CD (not ISO) the NBRT.

Boots OK & Scans OK

A few questions if I may...

1) What accounts for the NBRT 200k less files scanned vs. NIS full scan.

2) What accounts for the NBRT slooower scan vs. NIS.

    I understand the scan runs via my RAM.  Is my RAM the only cause for the slooower scan or might other sys resources like front side bus speed be causal.   

3) The NBRT ISO may used as a recovery CD or DVD on any computer.

     Does any mean any computer or any computer with a Norton product.  Does NBRT ISO serve as a recovery tool to a Windows environment or to a Norton environment - and will it update and scan any computer with or sans a Norton product. 

4) The NBRT USB while easier to update.  Might the NBRT USB scan faster as it also runs through my RAM.

I have read the Help files. Just don't fully understand em'.

Thanks

bjm_

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Re: NBRT / Wizard ?'s

Hello bjm_

 

There is a new NBRT out. I don't know which one you have and I have never used it. I can give you the link for the new one. There is a link on that page also. I think it says Learn more or more information or something like that. I've just found the link now for it. Perhaps looking at this may help you out.

 

Retail: http://security.symantec.com/nbrt/nbrt.asp?lcid=1033

 

Please come back and maybe someone else can further answer you questions if this page hasn't. Thanks.

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Re: NBRT / Wizard ?'s

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floplot wrote:

Hello bjm_

 

There is a new NBRT out. I don't know which one you have and I have never used it. I can give you the link for the new one. There is a link on that page also. I think it says Learn more or more information or something like that. I've just found the link now for it. Perhaps looking at this may help you out.

 

Retail: http://security.symantec.com/nbrt/nbrt.asp?lcid=1033

 

Please come back and maybe someone else can further answer you questions if this page hasn't. Thanks.


I used the new NBRT Wizard

 

To download the Norton Bootable Recovery Tool Wizard from the Internet

  1. Go to the following URL:

    http://www.norton.com/recoverytool

  2. Follow the on-screen instructions.

Umm, How many new Wizards are there. 
AllenM
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Re: NBRT / Wizard ?'s

Hi Bjm_,

 

I'm checking on this with Symantec and will post again later when I clarify this.

 

Best wishes.

Allen

Windows 7 Ultimate SP 1, 32 bit, 4 GB * NIS 2012 (19.8.0.14) * Ghost 15 * IE 9, Firefox, Safari.
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bjm_
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Re: NBRT / Wizard ?'s

@floplot

This is the NBRT I used.....

 

Norton Bootable Recovery Tool Wizard\Engine\3.0.0.66\NBRTWizard.exe

 

Thnx

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bjm_
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AllenM wrote:

Hi bjm_,

 

I'm checking on this with Symantec and will post again later when I clarify this.

 

Best wishes.

Allen


 

Much appreciated....!

Thnx

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Re: NBRT / Wizard ?'s

Hi Bjm_,

 

Actually let me address the other questions first:

 

1. Double checking with Symantec.

2. The recovery environment runs as WINPE and the hardware profile is probably not identical to the full Windows environment.

3. NBRT is a recovery tool whose main purpose is to scan for malware after booting from non-infected media. It is not a Windows recovery environment. Technically NBRT is not supposed to be used on any computer which does not have a licensed version of Norton Software such as NIS.

4. It would not scan faster but it will boot faster if you connect a USB flash to a USB 2 port.

 

I'll come back later on #1.

 

Best wishes.

Allen

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AllenM wrote:

Hi bjm_,

 

Actually let me address the other questions first:

 

1. Double checking with Symantec.

    Thanks ...

2. The recovery environment runs as WINPE and the hardware profile is probably not identical to the full Windows environment.

    Help files > Norton Bootable Recovery Tool is integrated with Windows Preinstallation Environment (WinPE).

    OK,   integrated with = runs as

3. NBRT is a recovery tool whose main purpose is to scan for malware after booting from non-infected media. It is not a Windows recovery environment. Technically NBRT is not supposed to be used on any computer which does not have a licensed version of Norton Software such as NIS.

Umm, Technically NBRT is not supposed [...]

Help files > You can create a Norton Bootable Recovery Tool ISO file on your computer. You can burn this ISO file to a CD or DVD and use it as a recovery CD or DVD on 'any' computer. You can also use this ISO file to point to 'any' virtual machine as a virtual CD-ROM.

Umm, so what might an ISO image facilitate for the user vs. non ISO.

4. It would not scan faster but it will boot faster if you connect a USB flash to a USB 2 port.

    OK

 

I'll come back later on #1.

see you later

 

Best wishes.

Allen


 

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Re: NBRT / Wizard ?'s

Hi Bjm_

 

2. I'm not sure what distinction you are attempting to make here. NBRT runs on the WINPE environment just like NIS runs on the regular Windows environment.

 

3. The NBRT is not intended to be used on computers for which there is no licensed Norton product. Yes it can be used on any computer from a technical perspective. That does not mean that NBRT can be used "legally" on a thousand computers which don't even have licensed Norton products. :smileyhappy: Take a look at the note on the NBRT download page here. See also this post from a Symantec employee. NOTE that this post was written before the 2011 version of the NBRT was available so the link given for updating the NBRT with custom drivers no longer applies since that is now integerated with the NBRT itself.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Best wishes.

Allen

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AllenM wrote:

Hi bjm_

 

2. I'm not sure what distinction you are attempting to make here. NBRT runs on the WINPE environment just like NIS runs on the regular Windows environment.

Not trying to make any distinction about anything.   Just trying to confirm the meaning of the verbiage 'integrated with' ....

NBRT runs on the WinPE environment.  Understood !  The verbiage 'integrated with' conjured up an alternate scenario.   I get it... 'integrated with' mean 'runs on'.

3. The NBRT is not intended to be used on computers for which there is no licensed Norton product.

 I freely stipulate that the NBRT as per Norton is not intended to be used on computers for which there is no licensed Norton product.   I freely stipulate I will stay within the four corners of the law.  Again, it's just a verbiage issue.   The Help text re the ISO points to 'any' a number of times.   I wanted to understand what it is about the ISO CD that differs from the non ISO CD.  Why offer a non ISO and an ISO.   Why use 'any' over and over.  I imagined Norton was trying to tell me something.  I imagined 'any' meant 'any'.  All the NBRT media runs on the WinPE environment.   What can a user do with an ISO CD that differs from the non ISO CD.   Last year we were using GearISO Burn.  This year we have a Wizard.   Guess, I'll burn an ISO and see for myself.

 

Any luck with #1.  What accounts for the 200k difference.  NBRT 350k  vs. NIS 550k

Have you run the new NBRT.   Have you experienced fewer files scanned ?  Maybe, I used a bad CD or have a corrupt NBRT.   I do not recall if there was a similar file difference last year. 

Hope this helps.

Yes, most assuredly all your posts always help.  

Best wishes.

Allen

I am not trying to re-invent the wheel.  Just trying to enhance my knowledge. 

Symantec has skilled technical writers.  I consider myself an average home user.  I try to read and comprehend all that Norton Help text offers.   Symantec invested resources providing the Help text.  The least I can do is read them and if necessary ask for clarification.   May not always be realistic...but, it is reasonable IMHO. 


 

Respectfully submitted

bjm_