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Brian_K
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Re: NORTON GHOST 15


boolean wrote:         They have far more important things to do with their time.

 


It's a hobby of mine. I have nearly 30 primary partitions on my HD0. (and they say you can only have 4)

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Re: NORTON GHOST 15


Brian_K wrote:

It's a hobby of mine. I have nearly 30 primary partitions on my HD0. (and they say you can only have 4)



And one of those isn't Hackintosh? LOL

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Brian_K
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Re: NORTON GHOST 15

My wife has an iPad. I don't know how to use it.

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boolean
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Re: NORTON GHOST 15


Brian_K wrote:

 It's a hobby of mine. I have nearly 30 primary partitions on my HD0. (and they say you can only have 4)

I understand.  It's a sort of hobby for me too, at least for now.  I can see the day when I'm tired of "playing" with computers I would rather use a Mac.

 

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topdog5
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Re: NORTON GHOST 15

Hi Brian

 

Question...Yes sort of get what you are saying here with the milk etc....so am I right in saying the recovery partition you refer to here is winRE(*.\) ??

 

Question  ..From what I understand here is that without a backup of the winRE(*.\) in the first instance could lead to a major problem BIG STYLE... as without this I would not be able to access the hidden partition on my main hard drive which as my manufacturer says contains my pre installed ver of the win7 operating system?

 

I press F8 on boot up to get access to this menu to do this amongst other repair functions in the event of an emergency or hard drive failure...so I presume this is the  winRE(*.\) part which GHOST asks me to backup as a separate item as per screen shot below right ....Am I correct here ????

 

Look forward to hearing

 

Thanks

 

TIM

 

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Re: NORTON GHOST 15

TIM,

 

I assume your winRE partition contains an image of your OS taken at the time it left the factory. So if you don't want to nuke every change you have made to Win7 since your computer arrived, don't use the contained image. If it was my computer I'd move the booting files to Win7, delete the partition and use the space for something else. Another OS for example. Ubuntu 11.10 is being released tomorrow.

 

That's just me. I identify with the comment, "I do things to my computer, not with my computer".

 

Yes, Ghost will ask you to backup this partition as it contains the booting files (System, Active) but it only needs to be backed up once. By the way, please change the label of your E: drive to something other than "System". You don't want to confuse it with the Win7 partition when you are in a WinPE and the C: and E: drive letters refer to something else.

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topdog5
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Re: NORTON GHOST 15

Hi Brian....your advice to change the SYSTEM E: drive name to something else ... and also to move the winRE file to the main partition etc sounds to be a good idea and a sensible one which should simplify things.. however it may be difficult to follow instructions via email as I may not fully understand the procedure..If I could call you via SKYPE etc this would be better so to make things more easy....what country do you come from US ?

 

Let me know as I don't want to do my full restore till things are right in my head that i know what i am doing is correct.

 

I used Norton GHOST with a previous XP computer and it completley destroyed my OS that was pre - installed on my partition (Factory setting) on the hard drive...so thats why i am nervous this time to not repeat the same mistake.

 

Norton dont explain these potential disaster areas in their instructions which should be made clear to newby users of their software.

 

Let me know

 

Thanks

 

TIM ...UK

 

 

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boolean
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Re: NORTON GHOST 15


topdog5 wrote:

I used Norton GHOST with a previous XP computer and it completley destroyed my OS that was pre - installed on my partition (Factory setting) on the hard drive...so thats why i am nervous this time to not repeat the same mistake.

 

Norton dont explain these potential disaster areas in their instructions which should be made clear to newby users of their software.

 



So, are you implying there's a problem restoring such environments with extra hidden and/or EOM partitions?  If so, then this implies every user of Ghost who has such an environment, of which there must be many when DELL users are included, must now perform a repartitioning of their systems.   As I said before, this is a Ghost problem, not a Windows or EOM problem.  If the software doesn't perform what is promised out of the box, ie, restore a system back to it's original format, then it has a major bug.  Having said all this, I have no issue in computer savvy people changing the format of their systems.   They can do what they like as long as they know what they are doing.  I was tempted to do it too but decided against it as I have better things to do with my time..  However, for the rest of us who happen to be the vast majority, this is not possible, nor should it be necessary.  I suggest Norton provide proper written instructions in their documentation supplied to their users of Ghost to explain the issue, and the correct procedure in backing up and restoring a complete system where there are hidden and/or proprietary partitions on the main hard drive.  If they like they can also include the necessary steps to juggle the partitions as discussed on this thread.  Otherwise, we have the situation where there are vast numbers of users who are vulnerable and exposed to a major disaster if and when they try to restore their main backups, and Norton is the direct cause of this.  I would welcome clarification from Norton on this matter to assist users of all types and levels of experience.

 

 

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Ghost 15 does have a bug of sometimes putting the SRP AFTER the OS partition if you don't edit things in the recovery environment. This bug has been fixed in Ghost's sister, Symantec System Recovery Desktop edition. I don't understand why there hasn't been a Ghost release to fix this and other bugs. It's been a long time since Ghost 15 has been released. They should either release a SP2 or Ghost 16. If ghost 16, I hope they add some stuff to make it worth buying, like Restore Anywhere.

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boolean wrote:

 If so, then this implies every user of Ghost who has such an environment, of which there must be many when DELL users are included, must now perform a repartitioning of their systems.   As I said before, this is a Ghost problem, not a Windows or EOM problem.  


boolean,

 

Ghost 15 would have no difficulty in imaging/restoring your and topdog5's computers. I know I'd get it right 100% of the time. Ghost doesn't have a problem doing this at all. But I'll bet many people will do the restore incorrectly and get a non loading Win7. Is that Ghost's fault, Win7's fault or the User's fault. I'd say the User's fault as they made incorrect restore choices. People need a lot more OS understanding with Win7 than with WinXP restores. And it's related to the positioning of the booting files.