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Kudos0

"104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"

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    Hi.

    I have chosen this thread just because I could not find another one where I could fit this type of situation in.

    I am using the "Norton Security Online" Software Package and the "Norton Utilities 2016" Software Package on a "Microsoft Windows 10" "Creators' Update" Software Installation.

    I have just run the tool that finds the duplicate files on the whole and single "C:" partition of the Winchester Hard Disk Drive.

    The number of results is just puzzling. For some reason, I have 104,016 Duplicate Files.

    I do not know if this is a defect related to the "Norton Utilities 2016" Software Package or to the way that the "Microsoft Windows 10" Operating System is managing its own System Files.

    Unfortunately, the "Norton Utilities 2016" Software Package does not present a Feature that could save the Results of the Scan for Duplicate Files.

    Please find attached the screenshot depicting this situation.

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Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"

Initially, I have thought that maybe the "CygWin64" Software Installation has inserted a lot of Duplicate Files.

However, I have run again the Find Duplicate Files Tool solely on the "C:\CygWin64" Path and I have got only 1,721 Duplicate Files. Please see the attached "CygWin64_1721.PDF" File.

This means that the remaining 102,295 Duplicate Files are somehow produced only by the "Microsoft Windows 10" Operating System, which is still unbelievable.

Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"

    I have run again the Find Duplicate Files Tool only on the Folder of the unique User that resides within this Software Installation, namely on the Path "C:\Users\DOBRE". Again the result has not been surprisingly high, but it has consisted only in 17,687 Duplicate Files, as it can be seen in the attached "DOBRE_17687.PDF" File.

    Therefore, the remaining 104,016 - 1,721 - 17,687 = 84,608 Duplicate Files are mostly created by the "Microsoft Windows 10" Operating System.

    The "Windows Explorer" File Manager reports that the unique "C:" Partition of the Winchester Hard Disk Drive comprises a total of 221,502 Files.

    Out of these, 104,016 are Duplicate Files and 117,486 are Non-Duplicate Files, with a ratio of almost 1:1 Duplicate Files per Non-Duplicate Files, which is again outstanding.

    It is to be noted that this Software Installation has been freshly made from a Universal Serial Bus Flash Drive containing the Software Installation Kit of the "Microsoft Windows 10" "Creators' Update" Operating System, which in the meantime has been updated to the Version 10.0.15063.

    Probably this is the way that this Operating System is working.
 

Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"

DOBRESCU_Mihal You sound as though you are a seasoned user with Norton Utilities. That being said I can suggest you follow these instructions outlined in the Norton article for use and suggestions concerning what to remove and what not to remove. Very common sense article I am sure will shed some light on your issues.

https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v83566335_norton_utilities_help_en_us

Cheers!!

SoulAsylum

Retired military (Navy 1980-2002) AO1 (AW) Aviation Warfare Specialist "From DOS to Windows10 what a journey it has been" / MS Certified Professional / Windows 10 Professional x 64 version 1809 / build 17763.503 / N360 Deluxe 22.17.1.50 / Norton Core v.282 on Android 1.98
Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"


    Hi, SoulAsylum.

    Thank you for replying on this thread.

    Yes, you are right. I have started using Peter Norton's Software Utilities around the year of 1,993, that is, 24 years ago. I have also been working as a Bug-Fixer and I can smell a bug when it happens to fly around.

    The "Find Duplicate Files" Tool has been detecting those 104,016 Duplicate Files after a Total Execution Time of around two days (48 hours).

    The total number of Files on the unique "C:" Partition of the Winchester Hard Disk Drive is 223,031, occupying a total space of 53,908,267,008 Bytes.

    I have just run another Tool called as "Easy Duplicate Finder". With the same Settings, it has reported that it has scanned 40,970 Files and that it has found 13,669 Duplicate Files that are taking up 705.62 MegaBytes of Data Space.

    Probably each Tool has its own Searching Algorithm. I shall try with a third Tool and see what it is reporting.
 

Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"


    I have tested with another Tool called as "Duplicate Files Finder".

    With the same Settings, this one has analyzed 207,089 Files and has found 80,176 Duplicate Files, which is closer to the Result given by the "Find Duplicate Files" Tool of the "Norton Utilities 2016" Software Package.

    This Tool did not take two days (48 hours) in order to execute, but it has analyzed only a Total Data Space of 23,053.83 MegaBytes * 1,048,576 Bytes per MegaByte = 24,173,692,846 Bytes that represent only 44% of the Total Data Space that is occupied by the Total Number of 223,031 Files.

    This Tool is able to produce a Text File containing the Scan Results. However, I guess that one has to be an expert in the "Microsoft Windows 10" "Creators' Update" Operating System in order to know what can be safely removed.

Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"

DOBRESU Could you get a screenshot of your C:\ directory and its contents then post here? Use the snipping tool and save the shot to your desktop as a .png file then upload here. Here is how to post the screenshots to the forums.

https://community.norton.com/en/forums/how-post-image-forums-0

Soul

Retired military (Navy 1980-2002) AO1 (AW) Aviation Warfare Specialist "From DOS to Windows10 what a journey it has been" / MS Certified Professional / Windows 10 Professional x 64 version 1809 / build 17763.503 / N360 Deluxe 22.17.1.50 / Norton Core v.282 on Android 1.98
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Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"


    Hi, SoulAsylum.

    Thank you for replying again on this thread.

    I have tested again using Piriform's Free Version of the "CCleaner" Tool, with not much success. It has produced a Text File called as "Duplicate.TXT" that has only 26,006 Lines. Maybe the two Professional Versions produce larger Output.

    I have tested again using NirSoft's "SearchMyFiles" Tool. This one appears to be the best Tool, so far. I have performed a "Duplicate Search" and it has retrieved 129,019 Duplicate Files, which is even greater than the Output produced by Symantec's "Find Duplicate Files" Tool, consisting of 104,016 Duplicate Files. However, NirSoft's "SearchMyFiles" Tool has taken only around 12 hours in order to execute, which is less than the 48 hours that have been consumed by Symantec's "Find Duplicate Files" Tool.

    I guess that this proves that there is nothing wrong with these Tools. It has been just puzzling to me to find out that in a mere 50.2 GigaBytes of Data Space that contains 223,062 Files and 40,571 Folders there are 129,019 Duplicate Files.

    I guess that now I should simply shut up, return back to my desk and continue to learn the intricacies of the "Microsoft Windows 10" "Creators' Update" Operating System.

    There are faint chances of finding any defects in NORTON_Peter's Tools, is not it?

    Thank You and Best Regards,
    DOBRESCU_Mihai.

    Here are the Screenshots, as you have requested:

1. The initial thorough scan performed by Symantec's "Norton Utilities 2016: Find Duplicate Files" Tool, showing 104,016 Duplicate Files.

2. The secondary scan performed only on the "C:\CygWin64" Path, showing only 1,721 Duplicate Files.

3. The third scan performed only on the "C:\Users\DOBRE" Path, showing 17,687 Duplicate Files.

4. The fourth scan performed using the "Easy Duplicate Finder" Tool, showing only 13,669 Duplicate Files.

5. The start of the fifth scan performed using the "Duplicate Files Finder" tool, announcing 207,089 Files to be analyzed.

6. The end of the fifth scan performed using the "Duplicate Files Finder" Tool, announcing 80,176 Duplicate Files.

7. The sixth scan performed using Piriform's "CCleaner" Free Version Tool, not showing the number of Duplicate Files.

8. The seventh scan performed using NirSoft's "SearchMyFiles" Tool, reporting a winner count of 129,019 Duplicate Files.

9. The seemingly innocent content of the "C:\" Folder, as reported by GHISLER_Christian's "Total Commander" Tool.

Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"

Awesome. Another mystery is solved. I just wanted to see the directory structure of your C:\ drive since tons of left over directories are left after "update" installs on Windows 10. All of them can be deleted safely. Glad we could help. Cheers!!

SoulAsylum

Retired military (Navy 1980-2002) AO1 (AW) Aviation Warfare Specialist "From DOS to Windows10 what a journey it has been" / MS Certified Professional / Windows 10 Professional x 64 version 1809 / build 17763.503 / N360 Deluxe 22.17.1.50 / Norton Core v.282 on Android 1.98
Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"

I am inserting a Screenshot produced by SEIFERT_Bernhard's "WinDirStat" Tool, just for reference.

Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"

Hi, SoulAsylum.

I think that, actually, you might be right. The huge number of 129,019 Duplicate Files might be coming from an error within the "Microsoft Windows 10 Creator's Update 64-Bit" Operating System. This is the trouble when you want to always be in the first place.

I have just found out that I have an Update Package that has repeatedly failed to install 36 times, like a bull that keeps on banging a wall. This behavior might produce a lot of Duplicate Files. It might not be the unique problem, but if they program the Operating System this way, it would not be surprising to find other similar causes of this issue.

1. This is the Screenshot reporting the Failed Update.

2. This is the Tip of the IceBerg listing a few of the 36 Failed Attempts.

Thank You and Best Regards,

DOBRESCU_Mihai.

Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"


    Hi, Symantec Support.

    I have just realized that actually the best Software Application for finding Duplicate Files is already built in GHISLER_Christian's "Total Commander (64-Bit)" Microsoft Windows File Manager Replacement. It has produced a good Result of 124,196 Duplicate Files Count in around 12 hours.

    1. The Duplicate Files Count of 124,196.

    The best part about it is that it is able to feed the Result into a List Box, where one can do whatever they please with the Files.

    2. A nice List Box with the 18.71 GigaBytes that are wasted within the 124,196 Duplicate Files.

    One can even sort descending the List Box according to the Size of the Files and then, with patience, love, and compassion, delete the unnecessary Files within a few years.

    3. The List Box sorted descending by Size.

    It is still not clear me how Symantec's and NORTON_Peter's "Norton Utilities 2016" Software Application is working. It is scheduled to execute by itself at midnight between each Saturday and Sunday and still, I have found 2.20 GigaBytes of Data that can be removed using Microsoft's "Disk Cleanup" Software Application. Perhaps one needs to reset the machine from time to time - as always.

    4. The 2.20 GigaBytes of removable Data that have been found right after the automatic run of the "Norton Utilities 2016" Software Application.

    Thank You and Best Regards,
    DOBRESCU_Mihai.

Kudos0

Re: "104,016 Duplicate Files Found!"


    Hi, "Norton Community".
   
    The Investigation has continued on the "Microsoft Community" Web-Site on the Web-Page that is maintained at the following Uniform Resource Locator:
   
        https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-update-winpc/failure-installing-windows-update-2017-07-security/47e9bd09-def5-47b1-8ae9-b6fad1b9c68c?auth=1
   
    Unfortunately, the Investigation has ended up with the Clean Install of the whole Operating System.
   
    Thank You and Best Regards,
    DOBRESCU_Mihai.
   
   

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