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Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Hello.

Norton Safeweb no longer offers safeweb icons in Google searches in the latest version of Firefox.

The site rating only displays after going to the site.

If you want Norton to return the safeweb icons to Google searches in Firefox, please reply to this post.

I'm trying to gauge the level of user dissatisfaction with this latest change to Firefox safeweb support.

Thanks.

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Hello CurrentR, welcome to the forums. I believe this article should assist you with your issue.

https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v124328498_EndUserProfile_en_us

Cheers

Retired military (Navy 1980-2002) "From DOS to Windows10 what a journey it has been" / MS Certified Professional / Windows 10 Professional x 64 version 1809 / build 17763.55 / NSBU 22.15.1.8 / Norton Core v.267
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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Thanks SoulAsylum.

It seems a safer approach to see the Norton evaluation of a site before visiting that site.

Especially, sites that aren't evaluated by Norton yet. With the change to Safeweb, it appears you visit those first and then Safeweb indicates it isn't evaluated. A step backward in security, as I see it.

Because of this, I would prefer Norton return the safeweb annotations to Google searches in Firefox

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Indeed. Its not actually Norton that is doing the blocking but rather FF. Legacy support is gone, so hopefully and soon FF will have an extension from Norton that looks and feels like the legacy at some point.

Cheers

Retired military (Navy 1980-2002) "From DOS to Windows10 what a journey it has been" / MS Certified Professional / Windows 10 Professional x 64 version 1809 / build 17763.55 / NSBU 22.15.1.8 / Norton Core v.267
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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Thanks for clarifying SoulAsylum.

Yes, the sooner the safeweb annotations are back for Firefox, the better.

Cheers.

Kudos0

Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Hello

Yes, Norton is aware that Customers want the Annotations or something very similar to them to be available hopefully sooner than later, but Mozilla needs to approve the change also.

Have a Good Night and

Thanks.

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

SoulAsylum:

Hello CurrentR, welcome to the forums. I believe this article should assist you with your issue.

https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v124328498_EndUserProfile_en_us

Cheers

Sorry, but this document reeks of deception, especially if site ratings for Google searches still work in Chrome -- and my understanding is they do. (I don't currently use Chrome myself.)

Firstly, I -- like many others who want to squeeze another seven months out of their Firefox legacy icons before they go "poof!" -- have switched for now to the usually business-targeted Firefox 52esr. It receives all the Firefox security updates, but modifies/updates features and interface more slowly than "regular" Firefox.   We already know that the Norton site ratings in Google search worked in "regular" Firefox 52, and there is no reason this feature had to be taken away with Firefox 52esr.

Secondly, even for those who have moved onto FF 57, the Norton document is feeding them poppycock in multiple ways.  Norton acts as if Safe Web is a new add-on newly designed to be compatible with Firefox's new "Webextensions" API, when in fact Safe Web has already been available as a Firefox add-on for years!   Maybe it looks a little different now, but it is that same "you only get site ratings if you search with Ask so that we get revenue-sharing!" nonsense that paying customers shouldn't be forced into.

And the worst deception of all is Norton claiming they had to get rid of site ratings in Google search results as a result of Firefox's switch to the Webextensions API in FF 57.  Hello??  Webextensions is very similar to the JavaScript and HTML-based extension API that Chrome uses for its extensions!  So if you can still get site icons for Google searches in Chrome, Norton's claim that Firefox's version 57+ add-on standards prevent them from providing the same in Firefox 57+  is deceptive, an excuse to lure you into using Ask instead of Google.

So Norton's "explanations" for the  devaluation of the product I, and so many other Firefox users, pay Norton for has "shameless spin" written all over it.  Forget all those excuses, the real reason Firefox users can no longer have site ratings in Google search is that Norton is trying to add revenue or reduce costs (which could be in several forms, including dedicating resources to other things).  I've posted intermittently to this forum for years, with plenty of praise for Norton and also some criticism.  But I've never accused Symantec of outright deception.  Until now.

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Hello Ardmore. There isn't deception in any way regarding the posted Norton article on the subject. No conspiracy theory embedded into what Norton has no control of. The facts are, Mozilla has coded "legacy" extension support out of their products. Norton has provided a solution that provides the very same level of protection as before WITH an extension that SUPPORTS the requirements set by Mozilla. This is the same as with Microsoft and their Edge browser. Microsoft has strangled developers in their validation processes for the very same reasons. THEY want to control the content their products deliver to their users. All under the guise of safety and security when its nothing more than a marketing platform. The new Norton extension may not have the aesthetics of the old, rest assured you are getting same protection as you always have.

Cheers

Retired military (Navy 1980-2002) "From DOS to Windows10 what a journey it has been" / MS Certified Professional / Windows 10 Professional x 64 version 1809 / build 17763.55 / NSBU 22.15.1.8 / Norton Core v.267
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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

SoulAsylum,

Sorry I don't buy it at all, no matter how well you recite the Norton talking points.  No conspiracy suggested here, just the same corporate spin/deception we often see (but until now, not so much from Norton).

If the WOT (Web of Trust) add-on can still add their red and green site-safety icons to Google search results in Firefox 57, I have to believe Norton could too -- if they wanted to, but they clearly don't.  They just want to pretend it's Mozilla that won't let them retain the old convenience of tagging Google search results.

(BTW, where I said "legacy icons" near the top of my first post, I obviously meant "legacy add-ons.")

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CurrentR:

Norton Safeweb no longer offers safeweb icons in Google searches in the latest version of Firefox.

The site rating only displays after going to the site. If you want Norton to return the safeweb icons to Google searches in Firefox, please reply to this post.

 +1 to CurrenR's suggestion to return the Norton Safe Web for Firefox site ratings icons back in our Google search results.

The new Norton Safe Web for Firefox will only displays site rating icons in search results if we use Norton Safe Search, and I don't want anything to do with Norton Safe Search as long as they are partnered with Ask.com.

Developers of malware scanners like HijackThis, Junkware Removal Tool and AdwCleaner often use SystemLookup.com for guidance on how to categorize CLSIDs for browser addons, and if you search for "Ask.com" at http://www.systemlookup.com/lists.php?list=13&type=filename&search=Ask.com you'll find multiple entries with a status key of "X" (where "X" = Malware, spyware, adware, or other potentially unwanted items) for browser toolbars associated with the Ask Partner Network.  I've had to file multiple false positive reports with Malwarebytes because their scan engine will sometimes flag Norton Safe Search as a PUP because it is associated with search.ask.com - see my latest false positive submission from 26-Oct-2017 at Possible FP - PUP.Optional.ASK Detection for Norton Safe Search.
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Kudos0

Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

I'd also like to weigh in on this issue, please return the checkmarks to google search.  Not interested in using ask.com

Kudos0

Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

I happen to be among the last Windows Vista 32-bit users, running Firefox version 52.0.2 ESR.

For me, and those like me, a simple solution is to downgrade to the last version where both the toolbar and Google search results icons last worked (exactly as I have just done with my secondary add-on "MyWOT: Web of Trust, where all red/yellow/green/grey search result icons once again display properly beside each Google result shown."), before you updated to the version FF demands due to the restructuring of the add-on system.

Please post the link to the last Norton Safe Search/Web FF version add-on that last worked with FF 52.0 which will fix my issue until I buy a new PC sometime next year.

Thank you for your time.

By the way, the downgrade details for Web of Trust, which works flawlessly in tandem with Norton Safe Web for dual layer protection is as follows. However, you should ALWAYS UNDERSTAND THE HIGH SECURITY RISKS FOR DOWNGRADING ANY APPLICATION ON YOUR MACHINE. Those of you who do not understand these potential risks should ignore the following:

Version 2017.02.06  - Released Feb. 6, 2017 - 1.2 MB Works with Firefox 45.0a1 - 56.*, SeaMonkey 1.0a - 2.28
Link: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/586124/web_of_trust_mywotwot_website_reputation_rating-20170206-fx+sm.xpi
(Link intentionally posted formatted as opposed to a clickable link for safety.)

More about WOT: https://www.mywot.com/en/aboutus

Anyway, the reason I am posting WOT information is to prove that so-called "legacy software" does indeed still work, albeit for only a short time longer, but gives us all the opportunity to do our due diligence and prepare for the potential inevitable, possibly giving you far more time to come up with something much more aesthetically pleasing and familiar while we each search for ways to gradually accept the changes instead of waking up one morning only to find our software no longer works as expected and desired and all we're greeted with are excuses and "go blame someone else".

No need to point any fingers at anybody, though we are all in agreement this is 100% a Mozilla change in direction issue. Nonetheless, downgrading will restore the same exact functionality we're all used to and desperately desire. Please post that downgrade link with whatever warnings you see fit. That's the answer.

Thank you again.

Jeff

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

OnThePike:

I happen to be among the last Windows Vista 32-bit users, running Firefox version 52.0.2 ESR.

For me, and those like me, a simple solution is to downgrade to the last version where both the toolbar and Google search results icons last worked (exactly as I have just done with my secondary add-on "MyWOT: Web of Trust, where all red/yellow/green/grey search result icons once again display properly beside each Google result shown."), before you updated to the version FF demands due to the restructuring of the add-on system....

Hi OnThePike:

I use 32-bit Vista SP2 with FF ESR v52.5.2 and there is no need to downgrade to an older version of WOT - Web of Trust.  The latest WOT v20171020 (released 23-Oct-2017) is compatible with both FF ESR v52.5.x and FF v57.x

Bitdefender TrafficLight is another browser extension that provides similar functionality and works with both FF ESR v52.5.x and FF v57.x.

Please post the link to the last Norton Safe Search/Web FF version add-on that last worked with FF 52.0 which will fix my issue until I buy a new PC sometime next year.

Unfortunately, the last version of Norton Safe Web for Firefox to display site rating icons in Google search results was bundled with the Norton Security Toolbar v2017.11.0.1 for Firefox, and this browser toolbar was discontinued when Norton was updated from v22.11.0.41 to v22.11.2.7 - see the Feature Changes section of Norton 22.11.2 Product Update Available Now posted in the Product Update Announcements blog.  Even if you downgrade to an earlier version of Norton v22.x to get the legacy toolbar back and working with an earlier version of Firefox you'll loose the toolbar again as soon as LiveUpdate automatically patches you to Norton v22.11.2.7.

The new Norton Safe Web v2.3.0.24 for Firefox is compatible with both FF ESR v52.5.x and FF v57.x, but you will only see Safe Web site rating icons in your search results if you use the bundled Norton Safe Search (i.e. the Ask.com search engine).  See ALF60's thread Firefox 57 Release Overview in the Tech Outpost board for more information.

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

OnThePike, I had a version of Firefox 52.5esr installed when the Norton site-safety icons suddenly stopped showing up with Google search results, strictly because of changes made by Norton.  And yes, they could still show the site-safety icons in Google search results even in Firefox Quantum (57) if they wanted to, despite the document that tries to "blame" Mozilla for the change.   There are lots of add-on capabilities that Quantum broke and made difficult or impossible to replace, but adding site-safety icons to Google search results isn't one of them.  Looks like Norton just wanted an excuse for trying to get people to use Ask.com to increase revenue-sharing (or whatever kind of business agreement they have with Ask).

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

lmacri:

Bitdefender TrafficLight is another browser extension that provides similar functionality and works with both FF ESR v52.5.x and FF v57.x.

Thanks for that tip!!  I've already installed the add-on to Firefox.  And now I again have site-safety icons from an established anti-malware organization in Google Search results!  I had searched and searched for such an add-on, but couldn't find one.

The watchout seems to be that, based on reviews and my own brief initial testing, it warns against fewer sites than Norton does.  (I am doing my comparisons to the same Google searches in IE, where Norton has not -- yet? -- come up with an excuse to stop adding site-safety icons.)  But BitDefender's flagging will likely become more robust as they get more users, no doubt including Norton Firefox users who don't want to be forced to use Ask to see the safety icons (or have to ridiculously wait until they've already visited the site).

Do you think that keeping the Norton Safe Web add-on enabled for its other functions, at the same time as the BitDefender add-on, could create conflicts?

BTW, A few weeks ago, as an experiment, I used Sandboxied IE to visit a site that Norton flagged red in its IE Google search results (I typed the url).  And found it a little unnerving that Norton didn't try to prevent me from going to the page, or give me any kind of warning.

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Ardmore:

...Do you think that keeping the Norton Safe Web add-on enabled for its other functions, at the same time as the BitDefender add-on, could create conflicts?

 Hi Ardmore:

I don't know if running a second site ratings extension like WOT or Bitdefender TrafficLight at the same time as Norton Safe Web might compromise safety.

A few years ago I had to disable the legacy Norton Toolbar v2014 (i.e., the old NIS v21.x version with the built-in Norton Safe Search that worked with Google searches) because the Norton Toolbar v2014 was constantly crashing my Firefox v41 browser (see phat monkey's 2015 thread Norton 360 Toolbar is Crashing Firefox on Close).  I ran Norton Safe Search and WOT - Web of Trust together for about a week just to make sure the site ratings in my Google search results were similar for both extensions (they matched quite closely) and I remember that my Norton Safe Web rating icons seemed to lag for a second or two before they appeared in my Google results.  Based on that old test, I suppose there's always a danger that site blocking with new Norton Safe Web extension could be a bit slow if you visited a malicious site while WOT or Bitdefender TrafficLight were simultaneously analyzing the site.

BTW, A few weeks ago, as an experiment, I used Sandboxied IE to visit a site that Norton flagged red in its IE Google search results (I typed the url).  And found it a little unnerving that Norton didn't try to prevent me from going to the page, or give me any kind of warning.

I've also had some concerns about the new Norton Safe Web v2.3.0.24 since I installed it 13-Nov-2017 in my Firefox ESR browser.  I reported that the safety rating icon is always grey/unknown on the initial tab every time I launch Firefox (see my thread Bug in Norton Safe Web v2.3.0.24 for Firefox - Grey Icon on Landing Page) and I had one recent intrusion attempt blocked by Norton's real-time Intrusion Protection System (IPS Alert Name: Web Attack: Fake Tech Support Website 34) on a web page that the new Norton Safe Web rated as green/safe.

I understand that the Norton Safe Web v2.3.0.24 for Firefox might have some initial bugs that need to be worked out but the fact that Norton employees have not responded in the forum to any of the concerns I've raised makes me wonder how reliable the safety rating icons for this new extension really are, and whether any of these issues are going to be addressed.
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32-bit Vista Home Premium SP2 * Firefox ESR v52.5.2 * NS v22.11.2.7 * Norton Safe Web v2.3.0.24

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

FWIW ~ I've observed McAfee WebAdvisor work with Firefox ESR & Chrome.  YMMV
 

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bjm_:

FWIW ~ I've observed McAfee WebAdvisor work with Firefox ESR & Chrome.  YMMV

Hi bjm_:

Thanks for the recommendation.  I couldn't find McAfee WebAdvisor (formerly known as SiteAdvisor) on the Firefox AMO store (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/) so I assume you have to download directly from the McAfee site.  The McAfee support article How to Download and Install McAfee WebAdvisor notes that you need Win 7 or higher so I can't test on my Vista SP2 machine.

Does McAfee WebAdvisor show site rating icons in Google search results?  The description at https://home.mcafee.com/root/landingpage.aspx?lpname=get-it-now&affid=0 seems to indicate this extension includes other features like download scanning and antivirus/firewall activation checks.
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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Does McAfee WebAdvisor show site rating icons in Google search results

 

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Hello.

Thanks for everyone's continuing input on this unresolved issue and thanks for providing alternatives to Norton Safeweb.

I'd prefer to use a Norton product but they appear to have abandoned the Safe Search icon functionality.

It may be also telling that no one from Norton has provided any info on the future direction of Norton Safeweb or a return to safe search icons in Google searches.

Cheers.

Kudos0

Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

lmacri:
Ardmore:

...Do you think that keeping the Norton Safe Web add-on enabled for its other functions, at the same time as the BitDefender add-on, could create conflicts?

 Hi Ardmore:

I don't know if running a second site ratings extension like WOT or Bitdefender TrafficLight at the same time as Norton Safe Web might compromise safety.

A few years ago I had to disable the legacy Norton Toolbar v2014 (i.e., the old NIS v21.x version with the built-in Norton Safe Search that worked with Google searches) because the Norton Toolbar v2014 was constantly crashing my Firefox v41 browser (see phat monkey's 2015 thread Norton 360 Toolbar is Crashing Firefox on Close).  I ran Norton Safe Search and WOT - Web of Trust together for about a week just to make sure the site ratings in my Google search results were similar for both extensions (they matched quite closely) and I remember that my Norton Safe Web rating icons seemed to lag for a second or two before they appeared in my Google results.  Based on that old test, I suppose there's always a danger that site blocking with new Norton Safe Web extension could be a bit slow if you visited a malicious site while WOT or Bitdefender TrafficLight were simultaneously analyzing the site.

Thanks for this and lots of other helpful observations in your post. 

When I asked about potential conflicts, I was thinking more about conflicts in functions *other than* site-safety icons.  But maybe I am thinking back to the old Firefox Norton IPS (Intrusion Protection System) add-on, as -- when I take another look at it -- Safe Web's *only* function seems to be site reputation rating.  Or maybe the Identity Safe add-on?  I never paid much attention to the latter because I never used identity-protection features, but wasn't that the add-on that -- at least for awhile -- was installed by the toolbar and provided the site-safety ratings?  It's hard for me to keep track...I just want dependable safety ratings back in my Google searches, and I'll be happy.  (Of course you have raised those questions about whether the Safe Web ratings are working properly at all as of now, completely aside from the issue of how results are presented.)

BTW, I also did the WOT comparison to Norton site ratings a few years back, and found that it matched reasonably well, although Norton seemed to flag more sites for malware/phishing suspicion than WOT did, while WOT had many sites flagged yellow or red based on their subjective assessment of content truthfulness or suitability for children.  (Even when I agree with one of their subjective content assessments, that's not what I'm seeking  in site-safety ratings...I want to to know about malware or phishing, etc.)

But recently, since WOT returned -- after a period of removal from Firefox because of issues over safeguarding of users' surfing information -- it seems like the great majority of sites are simply rated "safety unknown" (grey).

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

bjm_:

Does McAfee WebAdvisor show site rating icons in Google search results

 

Thanks.  This is exactly what I was trying to assess just yesterday.  I recall my parents' McAfee appending safety icons to Google searches, but that was quite awhile ago, and they had McAfee as their main AV.

Funny thing is, even with all the online discussion and documentation I GOOGLED up about McAfee WebAdvisor (formerly SiteAdvisor), I couldn't get a clear read on whether or not they appended icons to Google searches.  But what I did see is some questions on whether it is working properly with Firefox 57.  I didn't see anyone saying anything about icons in searches, the comments were more about whether a site was rated properly, whether it was slowing things down, etc.

Somewhere I saw mention of an abundance of false positives in McAfee Web/Site Advisor, i.e. safe sites rated as unsafe.  But that may have been a pretty old comment, or even an allusion to many years ago...I don't recall.

Regardless, I'm definitely going to give it a try.

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Ardmore: [..] But what I did see is some questions on whether it is working properly with Firefox 57. [..] I'm definitely going to give it a try.

I've only observed McAfee WebAdvisor work with Firefox ESR & Chrome.  


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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

CurrentR:

It may be also telling that no one from Norton has provided any info on the future direction of Norton Safeweb or a return to safe search icons in Google searches.

It may indeed.

Kudos0

Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

_bjm, by "I've only observed McAfee WebAdvisor work with Firefox ESR & Chrome," do you mean that you haven't tried it in Firefox 57, or that you did and it didn't work?  It sounds more like the latter, but I wanted to make sure.

And thanks for providing those WebAdvisor watchouts!

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Ardmore wrote:
Safe Web's *only* function seems to be site reputation rating.

Not so.  Norton Safe Web extension will block malicious sites (all be it slow to respond) and downloads.

You can safely test here:

https://www.amtso.org/feature-settings-check-for-desktop-solutions/

And specifically here:

https://www.amtso.org/check-desktop-phishing-page/

I have had Norton Safe Web block a potentially malicious download on a machine without Norton installed, just running Windows Defender.

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
Kudos0

Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Ardmore: _bjm, by "I've only observed McAfee WebAdvisor work with Firefox ESR & Chrome," do you mean that you haven't tried it in Firefox 57, or that you did and it didn't work?  It sounds more like the latter, but I wanted to make sure.

I haven't tried with Firefox 57.  

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Krusty13:

Ardmore wrote:
Safe Web's *only* function seems to be site reputation rating.

Not so.  Norton Safe Web extension will block malicious sites (all be it slow to respond) and downloads.

You can safely test here:

https://www.amtso.org/feature-settings-check-for-desktop-solutions/

And specifically here:

https://www.amtso.org/check-desktop-phishing-page/

I have had Norton Safe Web block a potentially malicious download on a machine without Norton installed, just running Windows Defender.

...which then brings back the question of whether there could be potential conflicts between SafeWeb and one of the other add-ons discussed here.  E.g., what if two different add-ons try to black the site?

Also, doesn't Norton block suspicious sites even without an add-on?  And if so, will they do it based strictly on reputation?  I've always been unclear about that point...

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Also, doesn't Norton block suspicious sites even without an add-on?

Nope.  Norton will not block anything, except malicious downloads in Edge and doesn't block anything in Cyberfox unless you install Safe Web.  It will scan any file you downloaded as you execute it though.

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

If you want to be sure Norton will block known malicious sites you can always use Norton ConnectSafe, or like I'm doing use Quad9 DNS.

https://www.quad9.net/

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Ardmore:...

Also, doesn't Norton block suspicious sites even without an add-on?  And if so, will they do it based strictly on reputation?  I've always been unclear about that point...

Just a reminder that Firefox also has its own built-in protection for blocking malicious web sites.  See the Mozilla support article How does built-in Phishing and Malware Protection work? and well as the discussion Q: Firefox built-in Phishing and Malware Protection in the Norton Tech Outpost about how this technology works.

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Krusty13:

Ardmore wrote:
Safe Web's *only* function seems to be site reputation rating.

Not so.  Norton Safe Web extension will block malicious sites (all be it slow to respond) and downloads.

You can safely test here:

https://www.amtso.org/feature-settings-check-for-desktop-solutions/

And specifically here:

https://www.amtso.org/check-desktop-phishing-page/

Thanks.  Regarding "albeit slow to respond":  When I tested the phishing link, I had both the SafeWeb and the BitDefender TrafficLight add-ons active in Firefox 52.5.2esr.  Immediately upon clicking the link I got a warning page from TrafficLight.  When I clicked to go to the page anyway, the Norton warning page showed up.  Then I tried again (without clearing the cache), and this time the Norton warning came up.  So I clicked to go to page anyway thinking I would get TrafficLight warning, but instead I got this:

(There were links for BitDefender, Symantec, McAfee and others.)

After clearing the cache & trying again, Norton was "first."  It also gives more info regarding the page than BitDefender does.

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Krusty13:

Also, doesn't Norton block suspicious sites even without an add-on?

Nope.  Norton will not block anything, except malicious downloads in Edge and doesn't block anything in Cyberfox unless you install Safe Web.  It will scan any file you downloaded as you execute it though.

Which brings up something else I've wondered about...In a case like this one (Intrusion Protection, not SafeWeb site blocking), does Norton's warning and action mean that  the Fake Tech Support site was already attempting to inject or  execute malicious code?  Or was blocking traffic from it possibly a "pre-emptive strike", e.g. a situation where the page would not do harm unless I clicked on something in it?

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lmacri:

It's been so long since I've seen one of those warnings that I just checked to make sure I still had this reporting option enabled in Firefox. I did.  Maybe the Norton warnings pre-empt some of the Firefox warnings?? For a at least a year I kept the Norton add-on disabled much of the time, because it was markedly slowing down my Firefox (no such issue in IE). Maybe that was my manifestation of the crashing issue you and others experienced.  That problem nicely self-resolved, maybe eight months ago.  Unfortunately it has now been replaced by the problem of no site-safety icons in Google search.

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bjm_:
Ardmore: [..] But what I did see is some questions on whether it is working properly with Firefox 57. [..] I'm definitely going to give it a try.

I've only observed McAfee WebAdvisor work with Firefox ESR & Chrome.  


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I tried installing this.  And while the first box (with the red) shows up, where did you see the Search Results options box?  I don't see it.  In fact, I don't see a WebAdvisor program folder, tray icon, desktop shortcut, or anything other than than the Firefox add-on (which has no options).  Windows 7, Firefox 52.5esr.  Thanks.

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Thanks.  As I was starting to surmise just before your reply appeared, that icon was probably in one of the toolbars I have hidden in Firefox.  I've already uninstalled McAfee WA and done a System Restore (and Firefox profile restore), but I'll re-install later.

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

Krusty13: I have had Norton Safe Web block a potentially malicious download on a machine without Norton installed,[..].

 

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

I've now got the McAfee WebAdviser giving me site safety rating icons in Firefox Google Searches.  And I've spent some time comparing results between WebAdvisor's ratings in Firefox, and the Norton Google Search ratings in IE.

The results are a little unnerving, in that -- at least in my particular searches -- there seems to be a lot more disagreement than agreement on which sites are dangerous or questionable.  Without going into detail, I will say that the Norton ratings give me more confidence.  There were even three sites where Google warned that "this site may be hacked," and McAfee gave all three a Green "safe" rating while Norton gave them all a Red X warning.  Also, Norton provides detail on exactly what malware was found -- even a count of the number of threats, and in some cases a rundown on the known-malicious-site links included in the red-flagged site.

I guess I'm not surprised Norton seems to "win" this one, but I'm still tempted to stick with McAfee SiteAdvisor so I can have the Firefox Google Search safety icons Norton took away.  Meanwhile I will leave the Norton SafeWeb addon enabled, to block me from entering a "bad" site that McAfee WA missed (as well as, per _bjm's post, blocking at least some downloads).  But I won't be pushed into using Ask.  If there's a case where I really want the Norton rating I'll replicate the Google search in another browser.  And if Norton ends up removing the site ratings from Google Search in other browsers, I still won't use Ask.

ETA:  For the record, using a Sandboxied Firefox I just went to a site that McAfee WA showed as Unsafe but that Norton SS showed as Safe (via Googling in IE).  As soon as I did, Norton reported it had blocked an intrusion attempt.

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Re: Bring Back Safeweb Icons for Google Search in Firefox - Please Reply

True as A Firefox Contributor I see people asking all the time and I know the reason it is not there.

BUT, I think Norton would do well to spend a little money to a Non-Profit .org as Google,Yahoo,Google have done for Search to be included. If there is a will there is a way and the people want the Toolbar back with Google results green.  I did not do all that coding on websites either for the code to just be sitting there doing nothing.  Bet Google is now looking at it and degraded my page rank for something that does not work. 

As a ex Beta Tester for Norton I did not put all that time and effort in just to see the product vanish as Norton System Works did or Personal Firewall or.......

Put out the bucks Symantec and it will happen.  Be kind to your users year after year after year and defenders of you also. For the days of Peter Norton I still remember.                                And A Merry Christmas to All   

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