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Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

FF(Firefox)or when the windows updates come in,Or Adobe is updated etc.

A case in hand is I have not updated to the latest FF as I want to be sure of no problems?But I don't feel it's appropriate to ask on these forums.Like a learning corner for newbie's and not so new.What's your thoughts on this?

Cheers Mo Windows 7 64 bit, NIS2013

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Kudos0

Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

FF(Firefox)or when the windows updates come in,Or Adobe is updated etc.

A case in hand is I have not updated to the latest FF as I want to be sure of no problems?But I don't feel it's appropriate to ask on these forums.Like a learning corner for newbie's and not so new.What's your thoughts on this?

Cheers Mo Windows 7 64 bit, NIS2013
Kudos0

Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

Great idea. Floating has been posting some of these things allready in the main forum. But I like your suggestion as well.
"All that we are is the result of what we have thought"
Kudos0

Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

I like the idea also. Good suggestion, mo!
"Anyone who isn't confused really doesn't understand the situation."   Edward R. Murrow
Kudos0

Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

Really good idea Mo!  I just downloaded a Windows update, which I always do with my fingers crossed anyway, and it knocked out my One Click Support.  When I deleted the darn thing, support worked fine.  Issues notifications or fixes could be kept in a separate folder for advisories.
Under certain circumstances profanity provides relief denied even to prayer.Mark Twain
Kudos0

Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

Hi delphinium,

You have peaked my curiosity and I shall have to check it.

Which WIndows update knocked out One Click?

"Anyone who isn't confused really doesn't understand the situation."   Edward R. Murrow
Kudos0

Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

Sorry Phil:

  I don't always wander down here to see whats up.  It was KB967715.  I think it was a security fix for XP.  I don't allow a lot of downloads from MS.  If I don't use the product the update is for, I get rid of it.  No Windows Defender, no malicious software removal tool, no Outlook Express.  Just doing the Office and XP updates are tricky enough.

  I think that was the one that knocked out W32time as well.  One of the recent updates had Kereberos (I think that's the spelling) components, which is very sensitive to time issues.  Had to change time servers and fix that too.

Now if I can just figure out why Firefox will no longer load my Jigsaw puzzle............

Under certain circumstances profanity provides relief denied even to prayer.Mark Twain
Kudos0

Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

Hi delphinium,

Interesting how each computer is unique.

I have the KB967715 update which addressed an issue with Autorun disable, but it did not affect my system as it did yours.

"Anyone who isn't confused really doesn't understand the situation."   Edward R. Murrow
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Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

That's what makes troubleshooting so much fun!  The more programs you run, the more peripherals you have, the age of the programs, updates, downloads, uninstalls, reinstalls, have an effect.  Then there is also the ever-popular just screwing with things to see what they are.  It is nice to know, though, no matter what goes wrong we can always blame Norton.
Under certain circumstances profanity provides relief denied even to prayer.Mark Twain
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delphinium wrote:
Then there is also the ever-popular just screwing with things to see what they are.

 Oooo, yes, guilty as charged!   It's a good way to learn, though.


delphinium wrote:
It is nice to know, though, no matter what goes wrong we can always blame Norton.

LOL  . Wait - does that mean we don't have to stick to blaming just Microsoft for everything that's wrong in the world, but now we can blame Norton too  I knew there must be some other good reason for using Norton besides just the decent protection!

Full disclosure: I regularly use Windows, Linux, and [ancient] Mac, and I don't 100-percent like ANY of 'em... they all have annoyances.

Kudos0

Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

It is a fresh idea that is suggested. I wonder though how it could be organized. My case in point is that I wanted to post a fact that was discovered in a thread about one of the security packages but then realized that if I start posting problems that are discovered between, say, Norton 360 and Windows updates that there could be others that start posting on other security packages and it can become a bit confusing.

Unless it is a place that is not specific to Norton and there are areas of discussion to present problems occurring with each particular piece of software that is out there so that users of this forum can readily discuss common (and not so common) issues that arise from updates, etc.  

Because of this interesting post it makes me wonder if it would not be advantageous to have a specific thread or area for questions that have solutions so that people would not have to search through multiple common threads to find answers. (All solutions from the same or similar threads could be listed under one question or all linked or listed together in an easy to find/read way.

Kudos0

Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

Hi mumford

 That's a Good point you make.I suppose it does mean a lot of work for the forum makers but I do think it would be to their advantage to have conflicts and problem solving right at their doorstep.

Maybe if the new forum could be broken up into 

Windows

XP/Vista

Browsers

Mac

And only the major KNOWN causes of conflict?? I would assume most members here would have a Norton product,And if they really wanted to post they would have to join up.I have seen on another security site  they had (I think it was)A general discussion area and then all the sub categories when members opened up a train of thought. Anyone else know how to make this work?Is it worthwhile pursuing this thread??

Cheers Mo Windows 7 64 bit, NIS2013
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mo wrote:

Hi mumford

 That's a Good point you make.I suppose it does mean a lot of work for the forum makers but I do think it would be to their advantage to have conflicts and problem solving right at their doorstep.

Maybe if the new forum could be broken up into 

Windows

XP/Vista

Browsers

Mac


Trouble is there'd be a lot of overlap. There would have to be some kind of extensive, thorough keyword system like, say, is used at some clipart sites, where each individual item (Norton post, in this case) would be identified by a whole horde of different keywords. Like at a clipart site a picture of a lady on a sailboat at sunset could have the terms: boat, sail, sunset, water, ocean, yacht, recreation, maritime, lady, woman, person, pacific, dusk, evening, and so forth (you've probably seen those if you've ever browsed through a clip-art website).

So a Norton forum post about someone having a problem with a Firefox beta using XP SP3 on an HP computer with NIS 2009 and not enough RAM and whatever else could conceivably go into a whole bunch of different categories/keywords: browser, beta, windows, xp, sp3, hp, nis, low ram, insufficient memory, 2009...  seems like everything would have to be extensively cross-referenced to make it work better than what we already have with the forum search thingie.

I guess the forum already has the "tags" thing, but they'd have to be much more widely used, and cover all the trivial little details that might turn out to be very important in certain cases. You'd almost have to appoint one full-time person whose sole job it was to go through and make sure that each and every solved problem got tagged/indexed in such a way that other people with similar problems, could find it.

Seems like it would be a mind-boggling task to implement such a thing, but then my mind gets boggled pretty easily  these days, so what do I know.


mo wrote:
Anyone else know how to make this work? Is it worthwhile pursuing this thread??

Well, maybe I'm just being really dense or something, but it kind of seems like that when conflicts appear, users often sort of already have an idea what the conflict might be and they sometimes tend to post it in the title of the new thread where they're asking for help... so a quick scan through of recent post titles kind of gives a little bit of an idea of what's going on as far as problems and stuff... I guess. At least that's the way it seems to me. Of course what the person thought was the problem, often isn't, and sometimes they have no idea what's causing the problem, and there may or may not be a solution presented in the thread, so that's not exactly reliable either.


mumford68 wrote:

Because of this interesting post it makes me wonder if it would not be advantageous to have a specific thread or area for questions that have solutions so that people would not have to search through multiple common threads to find answers. (All solutions from the same or similar threads could be listed under one question or all linked or listed together in an easy to find/read way.


That's an idea. Maybe have a way to browse only threads that have been marked as "Solved"... or something... thinking out loud here... (but that could have a negative impact on people still looking for solutions because it might reduce readership of non-solved threads... or not... I dunno)

Then again, given how software is always changing so fast, by the time one problem got solved and dutifully indexed/categorized, it would soon already be obsolete as the next new version/update/upgrade of the software would already be released with a whole new round of potential problems... argghhh.... sorry but I'm just not organized enough to even comprehend how anyone would implement that in a timely and cost-effective manner. Not to sound negative or anything.  (good thing the rest of the world isn't as pessimistic/clueless as I sometimes am about such things, or we'd all still be living in caves and mumbling one-syllable words or whatever)

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Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

Hi j2000

Maybe we just keep it simple.A newbie wants to know how does NIS2009 work with Mbam(Malwarebytes) This should be the place to post it,No security issues but just questions in general about a product you may not know much about and you want the opinions of others?

Hey Allen you've been silent what is your thoughts on this?? Worthwhile or not?

Maybe we don't need the links/tags.As long as people try to post their Firefox question in the Browser section,You can just go in and look.Sort of like reading a magazine it has snippets of this and that. The forums already have the bookmark ability and you have the browser bookmark ability to,I don't think it would be to hard to keep track of something you found helpful or interesting?? Thanks for your thoughts anyone else!

Just as an after thought maybe a Dear Allen section Hey .... a Dear Guru??

Cheers Mo Windows 7 64 bit, NIS2013
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Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as


mumford68 wrote:

[ ... ] would not be advantageous to have a specific thread or area for questions that have solutions so that people would not have to search through multiple common threads to find answers. (All solutions from the same or similar threads could be listed under one question or all linked or listed together in an easy to find/read way.


You can create something like this, but always uptodate, by using Advanced Search.

If you click on that and scroll down to the bottom you will see you can limit search results to:

Messages that are accepted solutions  [   ]

And so if you use Advanced Search with nothing in the Find Results Search boxes you should get a listing of every message that was a solution. Or you could put in word or words and so find the solutions to problems involving those words.

Worth playing with since it may be that the search word has to be in the solution message and not in the initiating message which just might miss some solutions.

FWIW

Hugh
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Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

About Advanced Search


huwyngr wrote:

If you click on that and scroll down to the bottom you will see you can limit search results to:

Messages that are accepted solutions  [   ]

And so if you use Advanced Search with nothing in the Find Results Search boxes you should get a listing of every message that was a solution.


 That actually turns up some interesting-looking topics (I hadn't realized the search fields could be left blank). Looks like it could be quite useful.  

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j2000 wrote:

About Advanced Search


huwyngr wrote:

If you click on that and scroll down to the bottom you will see you can limit search results to:

Messages that are accepted solutions  [   ]

And so if you use Advanced Search with nothing in the Find Results Search boxes you should get a listing of every message that was a solution.


 That actually turns up some interesting-looking topics (I hadn't realized the search fields could be left blank). Looks like it could be quite useful.  


Another thing to note:  After searching with the search results displayed you can click column headings to re-sort the list.  (I usually immediately sort by post date, the last column, with most recent first.)

Note: that you can also change the dropdown on advanced search from anywhere to specific boards as well.

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Allen_K wrote:

j2000 wrote:

About Advanced Search


huwyngr wrote:

If you click on that and scroll down to the bottom you will see you can limit search results to:

Messages that are accepted solutions  [   ]

And so if you use Advanced Search with nothing in the Find Results Search boxes you should get a listing of every message that was a solution.


That actually turns up some interesting-looking topics (I hadn't realized the search fields could be left blank). Looks like it could be quite useful.  


Another thing to note:  After searching with the search results displayed you can click column headings to re-sort the list.  (I usually immediately sort by post date, the last column, with most recent first.)

Note: that you can also change the dropdown on advanced search from anywhere to specific boards as well.


Excellent info - thanks Allen! 

Kudos0

Re: Could there be a new section where we can discuss possible conflicts between updated tools such as

Hello, If there is any spot to ask this I figure it would be here as it seems to fit in with thread idea.

I upgraded from V2 to V3 of N360. Not realising that even though I had used the option to save the settings of the previous version (although I later used the N. Removal Tool due to other issues) that it had reset the option to erase Firefox (FF) private data and thus the passwords I had saved in FF 3.0.6.  

My question at the time would have been if there would have been a way right after this occured (besides having a backup of FF data, which I thought I did but apparently did not) to undelete or otherwise recall the passwords for FF?

Take care all,

Mumford68

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