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While trying to open a .dat (data file) in an attempt to recover my so-called Identity "Safe" passwords, another LONG story, I used the Context Menu command "open dlg". I can't even remember where I picked that up from. It opened a M$ site. I'll let the pics tell the story, I've been up all night fighting this Cloud problem ... but that's a different issue. The first download attempt failed (nothing new there, knowing servers), so I tried again. The UAC message came up during the download process asking permission and I accepted. UAC pops up again (by the way I am Admin., only me on this machine) and it pops up again ... still no permission. I then became suspicious and checked the Certificate and it showed a valid M$ Certificate. I guess Norton 'woke up' by then and visually alerted me. Safe Web gave no prior indications. Have fun. You 'pals' at M$ won't like this. OR Norton has 'saved my bacon'. Please see images: - Art