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Kudos0

How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

Hi,

I am not familiar with  Norton Ghost 15. However, I think I have done a full system image backup for the two required partitions for restoring my Windows 7. Those partition are C: Windows system and "System partition for booting". Now I am asking to know how I could let new and settings program to be backed up If they had done.

I know that there are two kinds of images:

incremental or differential

However, I didn't see any such an option to set up an incremental or differential in the Window of Norton Ghost.{could you have a look at the picture attached)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/722/46258794.png

So, is there any option for doing this in Norton Ghost?

Will incremental or differential be merged with the full system image?

 Can an incremental or differential be for both system image/data backup?

On top of that I have read here:

Differential backups were the next step in the evolution of backup strategies. A differential backup backs up only the files that changed since the last full back. For example, suppose you do a full backup on Sunday. On Monday you back up only the files that changed since Sunday, on Tuesday you back up only the files that changed since Sunday, and so on until the next full backup. Differential backups are quicker than full backups because so much less data is being backed up. But the amount of data being backed up grows with each differential backup until the next full back up. Differential backups are more flexible than full backups, but still unwieldy to do more than about once a day, especially as the next full backup approaches.
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I am expecting that I do a full backup on Sunday. On Monday I back up only the files that changed since Sunday, on Tuesday I back up only the files that changed since Monday, so on until the next full backup.

If I had done a full backup on Sunday. On Monday backed up only the files that changed since Sunday, on Tuesday backed up only the files that changed since Sunday, and so on until the next full backup, Then I would have two similar backups.

As long as I have an image backup which created on Monday, then why do I backup On Monday and Tuesday for the backup changed since Sunday ?

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Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

Hi,

I am not familiar with  Norton Ghost 15. However, I think I have done a full system image backup for the two required partitions for restoring my Windows 7. Those partition are C: Windows system and "System partition for booting". Now I am asking to know how I could let new and settings program to be backed up If they had done.

I know that there are two kinds of images:

incremental or differential

However, I didn't see any such an option to set up an incremental or differential in the Window of Norton Ghost.{could you have a look at the picture attached)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/722/46258794.png

So, is there any option for doing this in Norton Ghost?

Will incremental or differential be merged with the full system image?

 Can an incremental or differential be for both system image/data backup?

On top of that I have read here:

Differential backups were the next step in the evolution of backup strategies. A differential backup backs up only the files that changed since the last full back. For example, suppose you do a full backup on Sunday. On Monday you back up only the files that changed since Sunday, on Tuesday you back up only the files that changed since Sunday, and so on until the next full backup. Differential backups are quicker than full backups because so much less data is being backed up. But the amount of data being backed up grows with each differential backup until the next full back up. Differential backups are more flexible than full backups, but still unwieldy to do more than about once a day, especially as the next full backup approaches.
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I am expecting that I do a full backup on Sunday. On Monday I back up only the files that changed since Sunday, on Tuesday I back up only the files that changed since Monday, so on until the next full backup.

If I had done a full backup on Sunday. On Monday backed up only the files that changed since Sunday, on Tuesday backed up only the files that changed since Sunday, and so on until the next full backup, Then I would have two similar backups.

As long as I have an image backup which created on Monday, then why do I backup On Monday and Tuesday for the backup changed since Sunday ?

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

Ghost does incremental backups and not differential.

But that is what you describe when you said:

"I am expecting that I do a full backup on Sunday. On Monday I back up only the files that changed since Sunday, on Tuesday I back up only the files that changed since Monday, so on until the next full backup"

The "system reserved" partition does not change, you don't need to image that on a daily basis.

But for your operating system partition you need to schedule an image every day and then set it to make a base image once a week.

When you are setting up the schedule you will come to this screen:

You will note that I have every day checked off up top.

In the middle section I select "weekly" and then use the "Custom" button to set my full base image to be made on Mondays.

The rest of the days of the week it will make incrementals with a new base image weekly on Mondays.

Dave

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

Sorry, I didn't see your screen shot.

Click "Tasks" and then "Run or Manage Backups"

Select "Define New" and then select "Backup My Computer"  (Don't pick the file and folder backup).

Then go through the wizzard and selct the partition you want to backup and where you want to keep the backups.

You will see the screen I posted when you get to schedule.

Dave

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

Thank you very much indeed. I would respectfully asking you about these two inquires: First: Why should I set my full base image to be made on Mondays or any other days? As long as I have made a full system image in the first time, this would be enough. So, I think that incremental is enough after doing a full system image in the first time. Second: When I have done the first full system image, I have selected the all the four partitions(C:Windows system, System partition, HP tools, D: Factory Recovery] So, my question is, if I have scheduled my full system image, would all of these partition be imaged in the time of schedule or only the C partition? I think that the C would be imaged for incremental backup.

In addition, I would like to ask you that the system image I create from the bootable CD of Norton Ghost, will it be used with using bootable CD of Norton Ghost. In other words,  I have done a system image with booting with bootable CD of Norton. But When I want to use it, should I use this  bootable CD for Norton to restore my system if I need?

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

When I have done the first full system image, I have selected the all the four partitions(C:Windows system, System partition, HP tools, D: Factory Recovery] So, my question is, when the  schedule time has happened for my full system image, I noticed  all of these partitions have been imaged in the time of schedule and not only the C partition? I think that the C would be imaged for incremental backup as long as that the changes would be on it.  

When the time of sechdule reached, the Norotn backups an incremental for all the pratitions. I am not sure that the information is the same or not, because only took a little time.

Have a look at these picuters:

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

Could anyone please reply me to close this pending issue?

If you have a look at this screenshot, you will be seeing that  there are three backup files for each partition and in each time of schedule increases one back file

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

Windows Explorer > Tools > Folder Pitons > View > Uncheck Hide extensions for known file types. You will then see you have several types of files...

.v2i is a baseline partition image.

.iv2i is an incremental.

I have...

C_Drive001.v2i
C_Drive001_i001.iv2i
C_Drive001_i002.iv2i
C_Drive001_i003.iv2i

Each .iv2i relies on the previous one all of the way to the original .v2i file. If C_Drive001_i001.iv2i was damaged or deleted, C_Drive001_i002.iv2i and C_Drive001_i003.iv2i are no longer useful. The .sv2i file tells Ghost hoe the partitions are laid out during recovery. It isn't really needed.

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

Thanks a lot,

I have gotten the files types

However, I would like to ask:

Firt: if C_Drive001_i002.iv2i was damaged or deleted, are C_Drive001_i003.iv2i and the next other ones no longer usefu?

Second: as lon as C: is only the partiton which changes, If I want to step the incremental backups at least for the partitions which don't change, such 'D', system, and HP tools, how can I do?

Third: How can I restore my computer from this image?

Finally: First: Why should I set my full base image to be made on Mondays or any other days? As long as I have made a full system image in the first time, this would be enough. So, I think that incremental is enough after doing a full system image in the first time.

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

I cannot see the picture yet. but see my comments in red.

cooperator wrote:

Thanks a lot,

I have gotten the files types

However, I would like to ask:

First: if C_Drive001_i002.iv2i was damaged or deleted, are C_Drive001_i003.iv2i and the next other ones no longer useful?

Correct. That is why you don't want to go forever without starting a new baseline backup.

Second: as long as C: is only the partition which changes, If I want to step the incremental backups at least for the partitions which don't change, such 'D', system, and HP tools, how can I do?

For the partitions that do not change, I would just do a one time backup and keep the backup files safe somewhere.

Third: How can I restore my computer from this image?

You boot from the SRD (Symantec Recovery Disc) and run the restore wizard.

Finally: First: Why should I set my full base image to be made on Mondays or any other days? As long as I have made a full system image in the first time, this would be enough. So, I think that incremental is enough after doing a full system image in the first time.

This is personal choices. I start a new baseline image at the beginning of the month and do incrementals nightly. I schedule my backups to run at 7:00PM because I know my PC is usually on at that time. Again, you should start a new Recovery Point Set periodically because id any in the chain becomes corrupted or deleted, everything after it is useless.


Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?


redk9258 wrote:
I cannot see the picture yet. But see my comments in red.

Thanks a lot, It would be quite good if you could tack out some time to answer all my inquiries:

First: I have been seeing the screenshot very clearly.

Correct. That is why you don't want to go forever without starting a new baseline backup.

Second: I am sorry I don't understand what you mean 'why you don't want to go forever without starting a new baseline backup.'

For the partitions that do not change, I would just do a one time backup and keep the backup files safe somewhere.

Third: I have four partitions (C: OS, D: Factory Recovery, System: boot, HP tools). So, I think that C is only the partition  which changes. So, if I want to create a one time backup for the three partitions not changed(HP tools, D and System) and scheduled backup for 'C' partition. Thus,

A- as you know that always when you choose to make a defined new backup to your computer by choosing 'define new backup', and then you selected partition C , the partition "system" is automatically selected. So, how can I do if I want let 'system' is backed up as a one-time backup?

B- If I have made a one-time backup for the (HP tools and D system), and scheduled backup for 'C and system' partitions. Thus, how can I will restore these three separated images? I have been expecting that while booting from the Symantec Recovery Disc, I will only select one image file to restore my computer.

C- When I have run a one-time backup, I have seen that that D,C are alread created, although I only have run define new backup  have you a look at my screenshot below) So, how can I do a one-time backup as long as it is already created?

You boot from the SRD (Symantec Recovery Disc) and run the restore wizard.

Third:  how can I created this disc, especially while I don't have the the downloaded file for it?

Fourth: I have previously downloaded ISO file for Norton Ghost and  burned it on a CD  . After that, I have booted from it and created a full image for all the four partitions. Thus:

A- Do you think that this CD is similar to  (Symantec Recovery Disc), if no could you let me know how can I download Symantec Recovery Disc .iso file?

B- Do you think that during booting this CD I already have, can I restore my computer form both images(created with installing Norton Ghost and with Bootable  Norton Ghost Disk)

C- When I created a full image for all the four partitions with Bootable  Norton Ghost Disk, and then I didn't see that Installing Norton Ghost recognize this image.

 Again, you should start a new Recovery Point Set periodically because id any in the chain becomes corrupted or deleted, everything after it is useless.

Fifth : What do you mean with "start a new Recovery Point Set periodically".

Do you mean that I do new defined backup for the  which changes.

Then, I have created 'a new defined backup', I would delete all the previous to keep space on my hard disk.

Finally:

A-  As you know that each time of the scheduling, there will be a backup file added for the the partitions scheduled, so  there would be too many files to choose from them while restoring. Thus, a user would be quite confused.

B- Do you not think that a user would be recommend to create a one-time backup for all the partitions he wants and then he wouldn't get corruption or deletion for it. Especially when he saved on a CD/DVD?


Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

You can see the picture you uploaded immediately. The rest of us have to wait until a moderator approves it.

What I meant by not going forever without starting a new baseline is starting a new Recovery Point set. If you only have one v2i file and a chain of iv2i files, say 100, what do you do if the second iv2i file is corrupted? Everything from that point on is no longer usable! I start a new Recovery point set monthly and verify all backups.

You have the one time backup wizard shown in your image. Since you already made a backup of those partitions, I would just keep it and modify the backup job to remove them from your schedule. Advanced Tab > Backup jobs tab > right click > edit settings.

The disc you booted from is also the SRD. It is used for recovering partitions or even files / folders from an image. It is also used for cold backup..

When you create a backup schedule there is a place that lets you choose when a new Recovery Point set starts. It defaults to monthly. You can set weekly, monthly, quarterly or yearly.  I like monthly and keeping several months recovery points available just in case something happens to one of them. I have about 6 months worth now.

I hate trusting optical media. I trust a hard drive more. If you must use optical media, make sure you use quality media like Taiyo Yuden. Make an extra copy and check them for errors every so often.

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?


Thank you so much indeed, I would kindly requesting you to answer my inquires

 

The disc you booted from is also the SRD. It is used for recovering partitions or even files / folders from an image. It is also used for cold backup..

First: But when I booted from SRD, I did never see the image I created with the installing Norton Ghost was available in that destination when I navigated to.

Note: the bootable CD of Norton Ghost I have been owning is Semantic Ghost 11.0. Copyright (1998-2006), So maybe it is the reason that the images created with installing Norton Ghost weren't accessed. Thus,  Could you let me know how can download the latest one?

Second: I can created a system image for my computer during 'Bootable CD of Norton Ghost, don't I?

 

Third:I have noticed that the system images  created during SRD, I cannot access them during installing Norton Ghost. Also, the system images created during installing Norton Ghost cannot access them during SRD.

When you create a backup schedule there is a place that lets you choose when a new Recovery Point set starts. It defaults to monthly. You can set weekly, monthly, quarterly or yearly.  I like monthly and keeping several months recovery points available just in case something happens to one of them. I have about 6 months worth now.

I  have really set up the new base backup every Monday when I have run 'define backup wizard' in the first time.

 

Fourth:: But I am really beginning to hate this way is going on, because there is one backup file added in each scheduling  time Comes. So, if you have a look at this picture, you will see that the files(iv2i) became four for each partition. Thus, my partition will soon get full even if it 1000TB. 


Fifth: Besides, if I want to restore my computer from this image, should I see all of these files while booting SRD?

Sixth if you see my screenshot below, you will see that the last Recovery Point set(It is an automatic backup) is 4GB, although I didn't installing other than Someone browser, which its size will not exceed 20MB.

 Finally: I think even If I have deleted all the iv2i files, I still have v2i file for each partition, so this would restore my computer to the state on which it was  when I have created the base backup. However, I only lost the settings done after this Base backup whose file is "V2i".

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

Could you you please reply me to close this isseu pending?

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

I was hoping someone else would chime in. I thought I answered most to the best of my ability. Anything in particular without making me re-read the whole thing?

Kudos0

Re: How can I do incremental or differential system image/data backup in Norton Ghost 15?

Thanks a lot,

But We don't need this issue stay pending

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