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Kudos0

How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Hello, my wife's Dell "XPS Studio" computer (i7 860 with 8gb ram), Windows 7 Home Premium, has a 1tb hard drive that I want to clone onto a new WD Black 1tb hard drive. Her existing drive has three partitions:

1) 39mb Healthy "OEM Partition"

2) 14.65gb "Recovery" Healthy (System, Active, Primary Partition)

3) 916.86gb "OS (C:) Healthy (Boot, Page File, crash dump, Primary Partition)

What are the steps needed in "Copy my Hard Drive" in Ghost 15?

Thanks...

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Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

There are two ways you can do it, you can use "copy my hard drive" or "Image Transfer".

Before you try to copy the drive run a full backup of the computer by selecting a "One Time Backup" and highlight the 3 partitions as a precaution. You will only need the 916.86gb partition if you use the image transfer method explained below because that partition has the boot instructions installed.

The backup should be copied onto an external drive and use that to transfer the image onto your new drive.

Deric.

"Image Restore"

1. Create unallocated space on the new drive, use Analyze and diskpart to do this.

2. Don't go any further than "Clean" in Diskpart.

3. Make sure that you have backed up the full computer creating .v2i files on the external drive.

4.Boot up with the SSR  recovery disk.

5.Select Recover my computer.

6.Select File Name  and Browse.

7.Click on Computer icon and open.

8. Search for the external drive containing the files.

9. Select first file and open and next.

10.Use the Edit function to select the unallocated space.

11. Then Ok or next.

12.verify recovery point before restore.

13.check for file system errors.

14.dot the primary partition.

15.set drive active (for booting O/S)

16.restore origional disk signature.

17.Restore MBR

18. Then click next - finish  - yes.

If you have more than one partition or drive repeat above and then reboot.

make sure also that you have backed up the hidden drive containing the boot info and run that one first or it won't boot up.

By a bit of practice you should be able to "Clone" the drive and you may well have to re-activate it.

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Thinking about it the 39mb partition may contain the boot instructions and you should make sure you backup that partition in case you need it as outlined in my last post.

When using the "Image Transfer" method transfer the 39 mb partition first and leave out points 14 to 17.

It would be helpful if you could post a pic of your disk management.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

"Copy My Hard Drive" is the easiest method to use, I use a Sata/USB adapter to connect the new hard drive to the laptop and go to "Tools" and select "Copy My Hard Drive".

Click "Next" and select source drive and then next and select the destination drive.

Click "next" and tick the boxes except the last two boxes, you can also add a drive letter  then "next" and "Finish".

If that fails then try the "Image Transfer" option above.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Here is a pic of her Disk Management. I wanted to do a "Copy my Hard Drive" but every combination that I try using the check boxes fails.

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Ok,

you can use the "Image Transfer" method but first of all make sure you backup the 3 partitions

Is disk 2 your backup drive and is disk 1 your new drive, unallocated space?

When running a "One Time backup" onto your backup drive that will backup disk 0 but you need to highlight all 3 partitions, may need to tick the box "show hidden drives".

When that is done follow the instructions to the letter and transfer one at a time, the small 39mb first, you won't need the recovery partition if you don't want.

When the transfer is complete make sure you take out the original source drive C: or Windows will get confused.

If you fail the first time have another go your backup will be safe, always clean the destination drive to start again.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Yes, Disk 2 is the 1tb WD "My Book" backup drive. Disk 1 is the new WD Black 1tb replacement for the existing Disk 0 which is a Seagate Barracuda 1tb.

Kudos1 Stats

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

The disk management pic looks ok, a bit blurred this end.

I can't see any reason why you can't make a successful "clone" of disk 0.

Using the clone in the same machine shouldn't cause a problem.

In the past I have booted up with both the source and destination connected and in my experience the destination drive is usually off line but best to disconnect the source drive 0 and then it should boot ok.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

I am "Recovering My Computer" right now, will let you know how it goes. Thanks for all your help and time!

John

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

You're welcome, if you fail first time try again, the "Image Transfer" method is the best way to "clone" a drive.

Once you have run a "One Time Backup" onto your external drive you can use that image as many times as you like.

I normally clean my drives and run a "clean" install with the Windows DVD, that eliminates the small partition with the boot files. That means that you only have to backup C:drive and totally rely on G15 to recover your computer in case of a crash.

On my primary drive I only have the O/S and apps all data etc. is on a separate drive resulting in a much quicker backup and recovery time.

Best of luck,

Deric

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Well it failed, ran all the way to the end and then came up with an error 50. When I tried to start the computer with only the new drive it said, no boot loader. I hooked the original C drive back up and started windows. When I went into Disk Management it only showed the 913gb partition and a small unallocated partition, but not the 39mb OEM and the 14.65gb Recovery partitions?

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

John,

When you run the "OTB" tick the box show hidden files and then see if Ghost can see the 39mb partition, it should do. You can run another backup onto the external drive.

That is the partition that needs transferring first and contains the bootloader or as I call it the boot instructions.

You might try putting the Windows DVD in to load a repair if you have one but looking at the DM maybe not.

So you need to copy that small partition.

Edit,

when you initially backed up did you backup the 3 partitions as I have explained in a previous post?

Edit 2,

If ghost can't see the 39 mb partition and disk 0 dm can't see it it has disappeared.

You may have to revert back to the factory setting to get the boot loader back.

If you can get a Win 7 disk from a friend that will find the boot instructions and get you up and running.

Deric

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Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Hello,

I realized that I followed the instructions too close from "Line 9". I did not add the "OEM" first, then the "Recovery", and finally the "OS C" partitions. It just took the "1st" one listed which was the "OS C" partition. I am running it again and added the "OEM" first to the list, then the "Recovery", and last the "OS C". Should I have restored them separately one at a time or will it work the way I just listed?

Also: I noticed her Dell BIOS stated the drives were "RAID" instead of "ATA"? Is this an issue. I am not running any disks in a "RAID" configuration.

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

John,

Yes the raid could be the problem why "Copy My Hard Drive" kept failing, I have know of issues with raid but I don't use raid so I can't test it.

DaveH or RedK will probably explain how the raid function affects Ghost.

Disable the raid configuration and see what happens.

You have to transfer them one at a time OEM first, you can transfer the recovery but it isn't necessary. If you want an exact copy of the source then transfer the recovery partition as well.

Always clean the drive before starting a new transfer.

With practice I am sure you will crack it.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

I tried resetting the drive in BIOS from Raid to ATA and then it would not see the drive on boot-up. I restored the "OEM" partition, then the "Recovery" partition, and now it is working on the "OS C:" partition. I set the "OS C:" partition to:

15) Set drive active (for booting OS)

16) Restore original disk signature

17) Restore MBR.

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Well same results, gets an error "EA390013". When I try to boot from the new drive it says Missing Boot Loader.

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

John,

I have messed up transferring instructions look at the latest entry for BrianK's instructions.

Edit,

Read the post from Coyote5 for latest instructions from BrianK

Edit2,

Got it back now

Deric

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

John,

the link below are instructions from BrianK

https://community.norton.com/en/forums/need-settings-2-restore-boot-drive-image-2-new-hdd

Try these, it spells out what to do with a OEM etc. My instructions only refer to the C:drive

Edit 1,

Read the post from DaveH for the link to Brian's instructions.

Edit 2,

Clean the destination drive again using Diskpart no further than "Clean" to create the unallocated space. Make sure that OEM is copied ok and C: source drive. and transfer OEM first and C:drive next. leave the recovery out for now.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Good Morning, thank you for your continued help! The "Recovery" partition has the "Active" setting, isn't this needed? Also what is an "SRP"?

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Good morning John, afternoon here,

The SRP is the OEM and if you follow Brian's instructions for the first section and then for the C: copy as you have done before it should boot. Just transfer the OEM and C: copies at this stage.

I am guessing at this stage because as explained before I don't have an SRP or OEM I tend to eliminate the slight complications.

Experiment with the OEM and set it as Brian says, practice makes perfect.

Edit 1,

The recovery partition doesn't need to be "Active" in your case only the OEM if you follow Brian's instructions.

Edit 2,

See Brian's instructions, "Restore to a new HD if the SRD is present"

Sorry for the confusing instructions, I can't test it for you because I don't have the SRD or OEM.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

Thank you for all your help. But I fought it long enough and used another program to "Clone Disk", and in less than 30 minutes all three partitions were cloned exactly like the original and the computer is running on the new WD "Black" hard drive. I have used and loved Ghost for many years. Thanks again to this community for providing such a great resource.

Kudos1 Stats

Re: How to Ghost existing drive with multiple partitions?

John,

sorry to hear that you have given up "The Ghost" but to be honest it is complicated to "clone" a drive. I have tried to issue step by step instructions so that the average user can follow. Ghost 15 is the end of the line and the replacement is SSR 2013 R2 or may be R3 now but the complication is still there.

I have sent you a PM open the Inbox letter to read it.

Deric

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