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Kudos0

How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

I want to prevent my SSD disks from Norton Security (v. 22.5.2.15) Disk Optimization process. How do I? I don't see any settings to prevent it.

Thanks!

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Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

Disable 'Disk Optimization' under Task Scheduling and disable 'Idle Time Optimizer' under Administrative Settings. 

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Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

Settings > Task Scheduling > uncheck Disk Optimisation.

Settings > Administrative Settings > Idol Time Optimiser > Off > Apply.

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

Thank you both!

Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

There is a lot of confusion around SSDs.

You might like to have a read of this article  -  http://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRealAndCompleteStoryDoesWindowsDefragmentYourSSD.aspx

Please bear in mind that NS users Windows built in tool and is not defragging a drive the same way it does to a HDD.

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
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Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

Thanks - solved my problem

Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

I was motivated to search for information on this subject after being prompted by Norton to run its disk optimizer. The last information I had on this subject was that SSDs didn’t need optimizing, as they process their “read-write” tasks in a substantially different way than regular HDs.   

Now, after reading this thread and the materials under the links provided, I must humbly admit that I’m still a bit confused… Should I or should I not allow Norton to “Optimize Performance”?  In other words, should I rely solely on Windows 10 regular and automatic monthly optimization or would I be better advised to also allow Norton’s offered help for the same purpose?

The “techy” language becomes often too dense and too heavy for the layperson to easily grasp. At least for this one layperson writer… With this in mind, how can I make sure that I have either (or both) systems working properly, as the case may be?

Thanks.

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Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

Without Norton installed Windows will run its Disk Optimiser on a SSD automatically, so does that help?

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

Thanks, Krusty. Yes, that does help quite a lot already. I infer from what you wrote that I can safely disable the "additional" help being offered by Norton because it won't bring any additional possible benefit. Do I get it right?

Just one further clarification, please: Is the optimization process, as performed by either Windows and/or Norton, actually beneficial, detrimental or mostly "neutral" for the long term health of the SSD?

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Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

Ah, well for that can I point out that Norton uses Windows own tool to optimise SSDs on Win8 and newer, just changes it's schedule to what Norton wants.

As to your second question I can only say to have another read of this post.

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRealAndCompleteStoryDoesWindowsDefragmentYourSSD.aspx

It stopped me worrying when I replaced the HDDs for SSDs in my machines.

Cheers.

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

As I mentioned before, I read the links provided in the thread and found them a bit too “techy” for my limited capabilities… And on those other parts that I could get a grasp on their explanations, I seemed to end up with apparently non-concurrent opinions, if not plain contradictory.

Scott Hanselman says:

First, yes, your SSD will get intelligently defragmented once a month. Fragmentation, while less of a performance problem on SSDs vs traditional hard drives is still a problem. SSDS *do* get fragmented.

[…]

No, Windows is not foolishly or blindly running a defrag on your SSD every night, and no, Windows defrag isn't shortening the life of your SSD unnecessarily. Modern SSDs don't work the same way that we are used to with traditional hard drives.

Yes, your SSD's file system sometimes needs a kind of defragmentation and that's handled by Windows, monthly by default, when appropriate. The intent is to maximize performance and a long life. If you disable defragmentation completely, you are taking a risk that your filesystem metadata could reach maximum fragmentation and get you potentially in trouble.

Vadim Sterkin responds:

It's a regular defragmentation (the same one used for hard drives), and I don't see anything intelligent about it, except for being processed only as a part of the maintenance task.

The bottom line is that this gives yet another reason for people to turn off a very useful system protection feature. Until now they did it reduce writes to the disk. Now they'll also do it to avoid defrag. Myths are hard to kill...

What can I say?

It does seem Vadim is largely in agreement with Scott.  But when he says that he doesn’t see “anything intelligent about [defragmentation]” what does that actually mean?

In the end, unless you have a strong opinion to the contrary, I may pass Norton’s offer to be a party in this task and just rely on Windows own tool for watching after my SSDs’ healthcare… 

Thanks.

Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

Off doesn't mean OFF until Background is set to No

Configure: Destination screen 

For further reading:

https://community.norton.com/en/forums/norton-security-2-bugs#comment-71...

Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

The Background is not 'set' to NO. That column is reporting whether a specific task RAN during idle. Because the Optimize is turned off, it would be reporting NO for having run.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

... Except it took 5:22 to NOT run. 

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Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

From what I read. Even leaving it alone. It DOES NOT actually defrag the ssd. It sends the same command to Windows that Windows actually uses to trigger disk optimization itself with ssd's. 

Kudos0

Re: How to prevent SSD disks from Norton Security Disk Optimization

That is true for Win8 and newer.

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.

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