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Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

I have used "Manage Licenses" in the Subscription section of my.norton.com before to successfully remove stale or non-existent devices which were no longer using a license.

But if I try to use “Manage Licenses” to remove a device from the licenses list now, clicking the trash can icon next to the device name does present the prompt confirming you want to remove the license from the list, but confirming this prompt does not actually remove the license.  No error message is presented, and the prompt goes away, but the device remains in the list.

Using Chrome’s developer tools I can see that confirming the “remove” prompt issues a https://webapps.norton.com/api/devices/deleteDeviceBySeatId request to Norton, which receives an HTTP 500 (internal server error) response back from the norton.com server.

This has been an ongoing issue for several months now.  I have tried using an Incognito window to ignore any existing cookies or sessions, and I have also tried using a completely different computer and web browser which has never logged into my.norton.com before, so that existence of any existing cookies or other data is eliminated.  The results are still the same.

So from my perspective, I need the back-line support for webapps.norton.com to investigate why HTTP 500 is being returned when trying to use the “Manage Licenses” list to remove a license from the list.  This wasn't happening before, and is happening now.

Yes, I have contacted Norton support regarding this.  Unfortunately, Norton support's information apparently directs them that "Amazon must manage this subscription", because the subscription was purchased from Amazon.  That doesn't make sense to me, since Amazon doesn't have any visibility into the devices for which my Norton 360 subscription is being used.  It's norton.com and my.norton.com which manages this information.

But I went ahead and contacted Amazon anyway since Norton support wasn't going to proceed.  But of course Amazon doesn't have any way to administer this "Manage Licenses" list on my.norton.com.  The only "manage license" capability that Amazon has is to associate my Norton.com account to my Amazon shopping account, in order to entitle and register me as having an active Norton 360 subscription.

Amazon does not have any visibility into which machines or devices my 10-user Norton 360 subscription is being used on.  Never mind the fact that I've used "Manage Licenses" successfully on my.norton.com in the past, and the failure is only a recent issue.

I need help using the my.norton.com “Manage Licenses” list, same as any other Norton 360 customer who is using the “Manage Licenses” list on my.norton.com.  Presumably it needs some kind of back-line or developer support investigation (not just a support agent clicking around on the same buttons that we already know don't work), to determine and resolve why HTTP 500 is being returned when attempting to use the “Manage Licenses” list.

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Kudos0

Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

That should definitely be investigated... And as for Amazon, they can't do anything on your account, the problem is 100% with Norton.

If you really do need a license removed, ask Norton support to remove it, that should work. (if they co-operate...)

Kudos0

Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

as test:  license not from Amazon

Kudos0

Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

If you really do need a license removed, ask Norton support to remove it, that should work. (if they co-operate...)

Yes, I think "Norton support, can you just remove the license association for me" is where they end up running into some kind of document that directs them to say "you must contact Amazon."

I've been assuming it's just a misunderstanding or mistaken search match for them, confusing the "Amazon-purchased entitlement to the Norton 360 subscription itself" (which yes, I would need to talk to Amazon if I had a concern with this) with the management of individual device licenses within that Norton 360 subscription (which is 100% Norton's concern, to my knowledge).

But I've tried three times on three separate Norton support cases, and cannot get them to recognize that this is a functionality issue with my.norton.com itself.  They claim being unable to manage anything about my account, because "it was third-party."  It might even be true that the Norton support agents are blocked from taking some action they would normally take; but it's still a problem that needs escalated within Norton support, not Amazon.

So if a Norton support agent can remove the license associations I need to remove, I have not yet run into the Norton support agent willing to actually do that.

Kudos0

Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

as test:  license not from Amazon

I don't get a license management that looks like your screen shots, for what it's worth.  The license management I see (and Norton support keeps directing me to the documentation for) is what you see in "Method 2" in this support document: https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v53370992

Note the devices I need to remove from the license list are no longer in my device view on my.norton.com.  They were successfully and automatically removed from the device list when I uninstalled the software from the machine.  But they have not been removed from the license list.  Meaning what is described as "Method 1" in the support document is not possible, and/or already happened, because the devices are no longer in the device view of my.norton.com.

Kudos0

Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

Note the devices I need to remove from the license list are no longer in my device view on my.norton.com.  They were successfully and automatically removed from the device list when I uninstalled the software from the machine.  But they have not been removed from the license list.  Meaning what is described as "Method 1" in the support document is not possible, and/or already happened, because the devices are no longer in the device view of my.norton.com.

Oh!? okay.  Thanks!  

Hmm, I was not thinking Method 1 or 2.

IIRC for my as test: I started with View Devices > Manage License

Kudos0

Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

as test:  license not from Amazon

Kudos0

Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

think for my as test: I started with View Devices > Manage License 

Understood.  I've "seen" that option, although it seems as though it's not supposed to exist for me.  The first time I enter the my.norton.com page, the "Manage Licenses" option in the drop-down under View Devices MAY be shown to me.  Or it may not be shown, and "View Devices" and "Download" are the only two options in the drop-down.  If I refresh the page, or go to another account page and come back to this page, "Manage Licenses" will definitely NOT be offered in the drop-down.

But it's a moot point, because even when "Manage Licenses" IS offered in the drop-down, selecting "Manage Licenses" from that drop-down simply ends up taking me to the "download to this device, or download to another device" page.  It does not take me to any kind of license management capability, nor to the page you're successfully accessing and showing in your screen shots when using this method.

In your screen shots where you used the same "Method 2" that I am using, I get the "Remove License [Cancel] [Remove]" prompt you're showing.  But upon confirming "Remove", that's when I see the web interface has made a https://webapps.norton.com/api/devices/deleteDeviceBySeatId request which receives an HTTP 500 (internal server error) response, and simply "nothing happens".  Meaning the confirmation prompt goes away, but the device is still in the license list.

It's feeling like the my.norton.com interface or back-end got updated in a way where now certain product SKUs simply aren't handled successfully or as expected.  Even though they used to be handled successfully.  I'm just guessing, but it was sometime in 2022 when I last successfully removed a device from the "Manage Licenses" list using Method 2 on this same Amazon-based subscription.

I suppose it's possible that "any device assigned a license after a certain date" is what's failing to be removed.  Meaning the last one I successfully removed may have been successful not because of "when" I removed it, but because of when the device had been originally installed.  From my obfuscated screen shot earlier, the devices with install dates "11/16/2020" and "6/14/2023" are two I have tried to remove which fail.  Not shown in my screen shot, further up the license list, there is also one from "9/5/2023" which fails to remove.

Kudos0

Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

All: Error 500 is always a "server side" issue and will be on the part of Norton services to correct. Where a product was purchased has no meaning no bearing regarding Norton management of its services. Norton manages all accounts and subscriptions that are active. Support should be gathering data from customers and creating tickets for resolution.

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Kudos0

Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

Please post progress?

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Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

The issue has been raised to Norton support three times now, yet has been ongoing for months without resolution from Norton, as described in my original post.

I posted here after my most recent attempt to drive the issue up Norton support chain failed, again, just in case anyone here knew a button to push to make Norton look at their server-side issue.  Or in case anyone here was Norton support and could push the issue o the right Norton web development team.  Or in case anyone here knew of a way to hack around the web license management request in a way that would avoid the HTTP 500 failure being received.

Absent any such input, the progress has been exactly what you see here in the thread: Nothing.

Kudos0

Re: Manage Licenses fails to remove devices

@Alan_A
We'll try to call attention:
Note: all Community can do is knock on Nortons' door.

Maybe, try message over on Norton social media. 
https://community.norton.com/en/comment/8549426#comment-8549426

fwiw ~ I've recently had constructive conversations via Norton social media.  Just saying.  Just me.