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McAfee vs. Symantec

Which is better McAfee® Security Centre or NIS2010? And I wonder why Symantec product is only installed on 1% of computers in stores.
“ We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard ”--President John F. Kennedy

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Kudos0

Re: McAfee vs. Symantec

Which is better McAfee® Security Centre or NIS2010? And I wonder why Symantec product is only installed on 1% of computers in stores.
“ We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard ”--President John F. Kennedy
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Norton all the way. The only half decent McAfee product is their corporate version. Just look at all and any AV tests by different sites and Norton scores much higher.
Kudos0

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But I wonder why every I see, I can see McAfee(R) not Symantec...
“ We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard ”--President John F. Kennedy
Kudos0

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Not sure what you mean by seeing McAfee(R) everywhere... if you mean like computers from big box stores and such I would hazzard they are hooked up to a broadband provider that supplies McAfee for free to users. Like my isp offers F-Secure suite free of charge but I prefer Norton. Norton does not do the isp bundle thing as far as I know.
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I only wish for Symantec to be included in manufacturer computer like Dell, HP, and Toshiba, just to name a few.  Unfortunately, all of these companies bundle McAfee!!!!!!  My ISP, Sky Broadband, also offer McAfee for free.
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Hi Wikipedian,

I was a McAfee user before I became a user of Norton. I first had McAfee on Windows 98. I was not at all pleased with it - it slowed down the computer, I didn't find it user-friendly - I dumped it and bought Norton. And have stuck to Norton ever since, all the way through my computer and OS changes.

My father bought a laptop with McAfee preinstalled. He didn't like it much, he felt that it slowed down the computer. He removed it and installed NIS 2009. He is very pleased now. 

Apart from that, we all know that McAfee's detection rates are inferior to Norton's. 

Message Edited by Yaso_Kuuhl on 11-01-2009 08:46 PM
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But it seems fustrating to waste a 15 month subscription offered by McAfee. It would be great if was a 15 month subsciption of NIS2010!
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If you have bought a laptop with McAfee preinstalled but have not yet purchased a subscription for McAfee, then you can simply uninstall it (it is strongly recommended that you run the McAfee removal tool) and then install Norton.
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I haven't purchase the subcription but Dell offers a 15 month McAfee subscription with every new computer purchase....
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Hi

If you buy a Velocity Micro computer, the only security program you can buy from them is NAV. No other company security is offered. It's either that or you don't get any security software. You do have to buy it from them and they will install it. I don't know if the ones that are in stores have it already installed, but if you order a custom made computer, it's NAV that is offered.

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Many stores probably put McAfee on the new computers just because it is free. You know what they say, you get what you pay for.

 

I agree with what others have said, as I also used to have McAfee many years ago and it definitely did slow down my computer. I seem to also recall that it took somewhat longer to get a new virus definition update when a new virus hit the internet, as compared to NAV. But this part may be a perception thing.

Allen

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Wikipedian wrote:
Which is better McAfee® Security Centre or NIS2010? And I wonder why Symantec product is only installed on 1% of computers in stores.

I encourage my clients to use Symantec, but one of them wanted to take advantage of the free McAfee that Comcast offers, as her NIS subscription was expiring.  I wasn't going to force her to use Symantec, but since Symantec had been on her machine up to then, it gave me the opportunity to compare both in virtually the same setting.  What we both noticed was that even after the McAfee product had had a chance to settle down, so to speak, it still delayed desk usage time at bootup much more than Norton did.  Worse, the interface was much harder to negotiate.  I think she'll soon return toNorton.

I used to use McAfee, but had enough bad experiences with them that I permanently switched to Norton just about 10 years ago.  I won't say that Norton has been perfect, but in the long run I've been satisfied, and I definitely like the direction it seems to be going in now.

To me, "free" is the most pointless reason for getting or using something.  Think of all the things you wouldn't do or try even if they were free.  But if saving money is vital to you, wait a week or two and you will a good enough offer (counting rebate) for either the new Norton2010 or the old Norton2009 (which entitles you to the free upgrade to 2010).

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McAfee ohhhhhhhhhhh not again!! Guys it is very much clear, Norton is far better than McAfee, whether it is in test report or the support and other new features. My father was having McAfee on his laptop that came preinstalled by Dell, but my father was not satisfied with it's performance in many aspects so he installed Norton 2010 and now he is happy..!!

Norton is the best !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wikipedian wrote:
Which is better McAfee® Security Centre or NIS2010? And I wonder why Symantec product is only installed on 1% of computers in stores.

I think the straight-up answer is that McAfee provides the software free or at extremely deep discount in hopes that buyers will continue to use and purchase McAfee. It's a common marketing ploy and certainly should not be seen as a measure of which product is best.

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Wikipedian in Thailand Dell offers Norton Internet Security 15 month not Macafee.
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silverhawk wrote:

Norton is the best !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I agree with you.  But I do hope that new computers, off the shelf, come preinstalled with Norton instead of McAfee!!!!!  That way the McAfee subscription won't be wasted.  If only it was a 15 month subsciption of NIS10 or 09.  That would be great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wikipedian wrote:


I agree with you.  But I do hope that new computers, off the shelf, come preinstalled with Norton instead of McAfee!!!!!  That way the McAfee subscription won't be wasted.  If only it was a 15 month subsciption of NIS10 or 09.  That would be great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who cares about wastage of McAfee subscription, if McAfee does not worth to be kept in system, then it should be better uninstalled. Regarding bundeling Norton, i also wish it should be done by OEM companies.

Message Edited by silverhawk on 11-01-2009 06:02 PM
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Hi Wikipedian,

 

It is not Mcafee or Norton that decides the subscription of the preinstalled products which you receive through Dell or any other computer manufacturer. I think, the software products are provided to the computer manufacturer on the basis of the partnership program as per their request. So, Symantec provides subscription of 60/90/120 days of subscription in OEM products as per the partnership program opted by the computer manufacturer. It's up to Dell to decide how much subscription they need for the OEM version of Norton program which they provide to their users(who purchase Dell computers). Symantec may surely consider that if Dell asks for extending the subscription for OEM version. 

 

Here is the list of OEM partners of Symantec:

http://www.symantec.com/partners/programs/technology-partners/oem-partner-list.jsp

 

Yogesh

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I never liked McAfee.  If I saw it installed on my new machine, I'll uninstall it.

First, it was NAV.  Then I switched to Kaspersky because NAV was a real resource hog.  Then, after finding out through a recent PCMAG eval of the new (recently released) NIS package which said designers "pulled out all the stops" to make NIS as light on resources as possible--and proved it with is own monitoring function--I immediately got it.

A really good app.  I made the right decision to get NIS 2009 instead of NAV, and I'm going to get a $20 rebate out of it because I was a previous user of a competitor's product.

McAfee? Phffft...  C'mon.

It's true, however, that no single product catches/detects everything in the wild, but it's also true that some products perform better than others.  Norton outperforms McAfee... hands down.  Okay?  

Doesn't mean I'm a fan of Norton. 

edit: grammar corrections

Message Edited by mdoc7 on 11-02-2009 12:24 AM
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Hi mdoc7,

Agreed, whole heartedly! Norton AV suites have come a long ways and I too have found NIS 2009/2010 very light on resource requirements. I am very happy with it. It uses pulse updates to get new virus definition signatures w/in minutes and I believe that Symantec Anti-Virus developers stay on top of the latest threats better than any of their competitors. I've seen many a threat be resolved by Symantec with a new virus signature quicker than any other out there.

Looking forward to NIS 2011 a year from now!! But NOW I'm starting to feel old so I better shut up!

Allen

Message Edited by AllenM on 11-01-2009 09:37 PMMessage Edited by AllenM on 11-01-2009 09:37 PM
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Kudos0

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Hi! Wikipedian,

I am putting my two cents in on this one.  NIS is by far the best security suite I have ever come across.  I have tried McAfee and Kaspersky but they just do not measure up.  Kaspersky misidentified multiple legit Windows components as malware and McAfee has actually protected malware from being removed from an infected system.  And don't mean McAfee quaratined it either.  I have had far too many clients that have used McAfee get a malware infection and McAfee either did nothing about it or made matters worse (i.e., corrupting files).  So I highly recomend NIS to my clients.  And whatever you do; don't ask me about Defender Pro.

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I've been keeping track of this thread for a while now and I'm a bit surprised.

 First of all I would have been surprised if someone would have said Mcafee on this forum considering this is a Symantec forum most of you guys are Symantec customers or just fans.

Secondly there are cases where McAfee would indeed run better than Symantec. Not every machine is the same. I'm one of the lucky guys who have been able to do some good testing on several machines and Mcafee just won't run on some of them.

I really like the way NIS is configurable while McAfee has less of that. Others just like McAfee to been just plain and simple.

It is all just a matter of taste and not a matter of A is better than B!

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I agree with all of you.  I like NIS.  I only wish it came preinstalled with new OEM releases!
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Hi

Usually when a security program does come preinstalled when you buy a new computer, even if the cost is free to you, the cost of the program and the installation of the program is still figured in other parts of the pricing of the computer. Sometimes also, OEM's are not fully funcional. I remember the days when you bought a new computer, let's say from Dell, you had a choice of buying several programs from them and they would install those products for you. But that was all an extra cost.

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The thing u are saying is called Bundling up in pricing strategy.

As we can c symantec has not bundled up till now with dell laptops, because macaffee is giving them a fair deal.

My suggestion to symantec is try to get in that chain coz it will hugely boost their revenues coz after 1 yr subscription due to good symantec's service they will continue their subscription.

Now on to the part where people say Mc afee is good :

1. Mcafee is so slow, its one of the slowest.

2. It has one of th lowest security u can get, even panda gives beter security. (My exp of 1 yr with mcafee u can't rely on it.)

3. It also prompts to block mcafee.exe (the soft which can't recognize itself and even prompt user to allow it u can think now.)

4. None of my friend use mcafee in my hostel of 250 people due to all above 4 reasons.

I will recommend u a better security suite (not only symantec but few others provide gr8 security unlike Mcafee so switch to them immediately) 

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floplot wrote:

Hi

Usually when a security program does come preinstalled when you buy a new computer, even if the cost is free to you, the cost of the program and the installation of the program is still figured in other parts of the pricing of the computer. Sometimes also, OEM's are not fully funcional. I remember the days when you bought a new computer, let's say from Dell, you had a choice of buying several programs from them and they would install those products for you. But that was all an extra cost.


Now the only security software Dell(R) is offering is McAfee!  No Norton, no Kapersky, nothing else!
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Yes wiki

Dats what i m saying, symantec sud try to negotiate with them, as we can c dell is emerging leader of laptops beating previous leader HP. 

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Hi Wikipedian,

As mentioned before, you can uninstall McAfee and install NIS 2010 if you have your heart set on the Dell computer :-) Just make sure that you have a licence remaining for NIS, and if you are replacing an old machine with NIS on it with a new machine on which you want to install NIS, then make sure to uninstall NIS from the old machine beforehand. 

Message Edited by Yaso_Kuuhl on 11-02-2009 06:45 PM
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Yaso_Kuuhl wrote:

Hi Wikipedian,

As mentioned before, you can uninstall McAfee and install NIS 2010 if you have your heart set on the Dell computer :-) Just make sure that you have a licence remaining for NIS, and if you are replacing an old machine with NIS on it with a new machine on which you want to install NIS, then make sure to uninstall NIS from the old machine beforehand. 

Message Edited by Yaso_Kuuhl on 11-02-2009 06:45 PM
Thanks for the advice.  But I've bought a one user three subscription from Amazon.co.uk for about £34.
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Okay, so you have purchased a fresh 3-licence copy of NIS 2010?
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Yaso_Kuuhl wrote:
Okay, so you have purchased a fresh 3-licence copy of NIS 2010?
Yes I bought a new version because my NIS2006 licence is expiring.
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Wikipedian wrote:

Yaso_Kuuhl wrote:
Okay, so you have purchased a fresh 3-licence copy of NIS 2010?
Yes I bought a new version because my NIS2006 licence is expiring.

Then it should be no problem to remove McAfee and install NIS 2010 if you want to purchase the Dell machine. If you want to do this, then we can give you instructions. 

Your Norton Ladybug.
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Yaso_Kuuhl wrote:

Wikipedian wrote:

Yaso_Kuuhl wrote:
Okay, so you have purchased a fresh 3-licence copy of NIS 2010?
Yes I bought a new version because my NIS2006 licence is expiring.

Then it should be no problem to remove McAfee and install NIS 2010 if you want to purchase the Dell machine. If you want to do this, then we can give you instructions. 


What instructions?  Is there any "special" uninstallation method?
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Removing McAfee & installing Norton Internet Security 2010
Preparatory steps: keep NIS 2010 installation CD and NIS 2010 product key (indicated on the CD sleeve) ready.



Removing McAfee:
-First, download McAfee removal tool to get rid of remaining McAfee entries in the registry after going through the first steps via control panel. Go to the following link to download the appropriate removal tool for your McAfee product and read the tool instructions:
http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx?id=TS100507
-Do not run the tool as yet! Just save it to the desktop.

-Disconnect from the internet. Do not go on the internet now. Close any open windows and programs. Disable any other security software you may have (e.g. Windows Defender. Note: it is strongly recommended not to run two real-time security programs together on one machine)

-Go to start - control panel – programs and features – deinstall McAfee. Reboot (should happen automatically). After reboot, go to programs and features again and see if any McAfee components are still listed. If there are, deinstall them and reboot computer.

-Run the McAfee removal tool by right-clicking on the icon and choosing “run as administrator”. (in Vista).
-Reboot (this should happen automatically; if this is not the case, reboot manually).

Installing Norton Internet Security 2010:
-Close any open windows and programs.
-Insert your NIS 2010 CD; let NIS 2010 install. When it asks you for your product key or wants to connect to the web, plug the internet cable back in and type in your product key (if necessary).
-When the installation is complete, launch Norton Internet Security 2010 and manually run LiveUpdate to ensure that the latest program patches are downloaded. When the updates have been installed, reboot your computer.

Your Norton Ladybug.

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