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Norton Core Antenna Range?

I needed to set up a range extender for the wireless network in my home.  I've read about the omnidirectional antenna design with advanced beamforming.  I'm not savvy enough to know how this works.  Does this mean that when the Norton Core detects an approved or signed-in device, it somehow directs a stronger beam to that device?  Is there a maximum distance specification?  

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Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

Hi @JuanZer,

Thank you for your interest in Norton Core. :)

As for antenna, Norton Core uses a 4X4 Multi-user, Multi-in and Multi Out and the 802.11ac Beamforming technology that concentrates WiFi signals and aims them directly at the target, and concentrated data transmission means more data reaches device instead of radiating in the atmosphere. And the range falls between 3000-3500 sq ft. in open space.

I hope that answers your question. Thank you. 

-Gayathri

Gayathri R | Norton Forums Global Community Administrator | Symantec Corporation
Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

 Thank you, again, for the quick response.  

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

You've answered my question. 

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

I have no tech sense. In the statement, " And the range falls between 3000-3500 sq ft. in open space.", what does "open space" mean?

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

Open space means out in an open area with no line-of-sight obstructions that can block signals or large metal objects near. E.g. very large open field. Range inside buildings is dependent on a lot of factors so it can't be quoted 

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Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

Thanks, that's what I thought. I have a small two story about 1500 square feet. I understand the range depends on different factors but I would I think with the open space range being double that, at 3000-3500, I should be covered. Would that be an accurate assessment?

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Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

You should be just fine unless your house is made from rebar reinforced concrete or metal LOL

Radio performance of any kind is a very complicated thing but all things being equal to maximize  performance:

2.4 GHz has better range than 5.0 GHz

5.0 GHz has higher throughput but 2.4 GHz will handle most users needs.

Multiple antenna MIMO routers work better than single antenna routers

You should select less busy channels (if this is possible with the Core) in setup to prevent interference with your neighbors.

Some routers allow you to see traffic on channels. If not, there are free apps for phone that will allow you to see Wi-Fi channel use to aid in selecting he least busy channel.

Measure channel use near all your devices and optimize your selection as one device may be closer to interfering neighbors.

Your remote devices may have poor performing radios so the router may not be the problem.

The Wi-Fi radio in your phone may perform better or worse than the device you are trying to optimize.

Newer routers use more sophisticated means to maximize/optimize range and throughout because total radiated output power is limited by FCC regulations. 

These are only some of the more simple issues with radios.

NB. Don't confuse the square feet of your house with linear distance. The maximum distance in your house between router and any device is likely to be less than 50 feet unless you don't have typical cube shaped house. 

YMMV

I am not an RF expert and I don't play one on TV

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

I figured I didn't need to ask but better to know for sure. Plus I got a class out of it! I appreciate the extra info. I'm feeling smarter already!
Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

Can you confirm whether you meant 3000-3500 square feet or square meters?  The external line of sight distance for the former is only 33 feet - which is not great performance.  If that was 33 meters, that's more in line with existing / published router ranges.

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

As Norton is a US company, and the product is only available in the US to start, those figures will be in sq ft.

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Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

How many Norton Cores can be on one network.  I have to use switches to reach various areas of the house and shed, but I have dead zones for wi-fi and need to have three extenders (due to metal building).

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

You would only need one Core to replace your current router. Then the existing switches and extenders you already have will connect to the Core. All devices connected like this will have the the protection provided by the Core device.

If you added additional Core devices for the same network, you would have to find a way to place the additional Core(s) into bridged mode. This would be a waste of value of the additional Cores.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
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Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

Thanks for reminding me about one Core could provide the full coverage.  Guess my question is how easy is it to bridge several wifi routers to the network.  I was thinking of using the Cores if they would do it automatically versus having to go into the setup for each and plugging and unplugging until it all worked.  I have the hard wiring fixed, just getting wifi throughout the house and shed.

Thanks.

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

You can search on Mesh wifi networks . That sounds like what you are looking to create. The Core router will be compatible with Mesh technology. 

Using routers for expanding a single network is a bit of a waste of money. Just purchase wifi extenders and set them up around the area you need to support.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

Thanks again - guess, I was doing the overkill on protection.  Plus, I do have several wifi routes that I am not using and might see if I could connect them as bridge routers.

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

Now the question is will the Norton Core then work with a wifi mesh setup and which would be the best to use.  I am just now reading about the wifi mesh, which is the way to go.

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Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

Mesh networks are junk. You are sending and receiving data from a half-duplex device which is expected to relay everything on to other half-duplex devices.

A Wi-Fi devices are a half-duplex devices (can't listen while it talks or talk while it listens). If you throw another Wi-Fi device in the middle to relay you have twice the problem:

It can't listen to your PC while it is talking to your PC. (normal Wi-Fi problem)
It can't listen to your PC while it is talking to your router. (mesh only problem)
It can't listen to your router while it is talking to your PC. (mesh only problem)
It can't listen to your router while it is talking to your router. (normal Wi-Fi problem)

If you have more than one relay your mesh half-duplex problem increases exponentially. Also most mesh networks require you to set your security to WEP which is hopelessly obsolete and insecure.

Setting up other Wi-Fi routers as APs (no NAT, no DHCP) and hardwiring them (preferably directly to the main router) doesn't suffer these problems. Of course this is only rarely necessary in a home setting. Newer routers and computers support beam forming which can extend range and signal quality (still somewhat rare).

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

Thanks for the info.  I do have to set up multiple wifi APs, that is why I have several wifi routers, kept thinking the next one would work better.  What I was trying to do is that as you move to different parts of the house I have dead zones and I also have different username passwords as you go to the other WIFI router.

I only have one DSL modem with wifi coming into the house (use to have that as a bridge, since , which I have network hard wired to the furthest point in my house, where I have a wifi router set up, I am sure I have set up as an AP.

I was thinking mesh would be the solution, since it would allow the equipment to work on the same username password, no matter where you go.

Thanks again.

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

I have multiple routers set up. My ISP provides a router that I use for DHCP. I turned the Wifi off on that router. My other two routers I turn off DHCP, leave the wifi on, and set up the same wifi password on each. That way, as I move around the house, my devices pick up the strongest signal. 

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Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

Thanks for the info.  I need to set up wifi in four locations.  Again, I have all these wifi routers and if I can do that, it will solve the problem.

I will have to do this when no one is home, so that I don't hear "I cannot get on line.  What is wrong with the internet, etc."  Because, I know it will be a challenge getting logged into each to be able to set up the wifi username and password to be same on them all and to makesure I get them all working in sync, without leaving it on as a DHCP.  I once tried to get a second phone line in, to set up a totally different network and they would not allow me to have more than one modem going to the house.

Thanks again.

Kudos0

Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

One other point. Many routers have the same IP address to access the settings. This will obviously not work on a single network. So I set the router IP address to different values for each. ie router 1  192.168.0.1, router 2 192.168.0.10, router 3    192.168.0.20

To do this, if possible, connect a laptop directly to the router via Ethernet and make the changes.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
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Re: Norton Core Antenna Range?

You need to make sure that you have 1 DHCP and one subnet. If you have multiple routers in full router mode you are going to have trouble roaming. If you laptop's Wi-Fi is good it should be able to roam semi-seamlessly. You could set all your router's to the same SSID and password and your device should connect to the one with the best signal and roam. But you have to have one router doing the DHCP/NAT and the others just passing data.

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