Kudos0

Renewing a subscription with Norton

Let me tell you my story about trying to renew a subscription with Norton. First without notification Norton reviewed me at one price. I asked them to credit it off my bill and they accommodated me. I did this because every year they try to renew at a higher price and then onc ei refuse they offer a discounted price. Why not treat long term customers with the discounted offer up front as a reward for loyalty? So I received their email to renew at the discounted price and when I select renew now, it defaults back to the higher price. this is not right and probably not legal. So I figure it must be a mistake and this is where the fun really begins. I call Norton Customer Service and Support and I speak with an agent that speaks broken english and is in the Phillipines. I asked kindly to be transferred to a US representative and she tells me that she cannot do that. After a long discussion of my problem she advises she cannot honor the discounted price only a higher price. She seemed unsure of herself so I thnaked her and hung up. I then called again hoping to get a US rep, again I was transferred to someone in the Phillipines and they advised they could not transfer me to a US rep, this was after verifying who I was a second time and explaining everything a second time. It appears they do nothing to document the calls so the next person knows what has gone on. The rep finally tells me he would give me a US direct line. I hung up and called the number he gave me this time I was transferred to India. I again asked nicely for a US representative and was told they cannot transfer me to a US representative. I asked so I am contracted with a US compnay but I am not allowed to be transferred to a US representative. They confirmed this. Everything I have been through there is proof of as they record the calls. So I agreed to try again with this rep. Once I verified everything all over again and told my story, the rep said I had to send him a copy of the email that offered the discounted price. I complied and he went somewhere to get approval came back and told me he would honor the discounted price. He then went to charge my Paypal account and we were somehow disconnected. This was not his fault. I had a case number so I called back again and spoke with another gentleman from India, asked fo ra US rep and he said no, then proceeded to verify who I was and took the case number. You would think there would be documentation of everything that had proceeded this call, however he said it was not documented and he would have to get approval to honor the price. Again I was put on hold, he was able to get approval and proceeded to tell me I could not pay by Paypal and would have to do the renewal by credit card. Then he transferred me to an automated machine to give my credit card information. After telling the machine everything he preceded to tell me credit card was not good. I told him he was wrong and he told me to go to my laptop and update my billing information in my Norton profile. Magically now my credit card was good. I then asked if he could give me the Corporate Office mailing address so I could send a consumer complaint letter. He advised they dont know that address. I asked him after we finished the renewal if he could transfer me to a supervisor so I could get an answer. We completed the renewal. I then spoke with his supervisor / manager and had to explain everything over again. I then asked him to provide the Corporate address so I could send a letter to consumer complaints and he said "I am not allowed to provide corporate information." He then gave me the link to this community posting site. This is the reason my consumer complaint is being posted here. I could not get the information to submit this privately. To summarize, after an hour and a half on the phone, a US company that I contract with for some 15 years only answers their calls in foreign countries that will not provide contact information for US customers that have a complaint. They send out discount offers on emails that when you renew at the promoted price it defaults to the higher price. It is beyond me that a company that has such a superior product has forgotten the one thing that makes any business, the customer. The customer should be treated like a king, because they are the reason a company is successful. If I treated my customers like I was treated I would lose my customers. None of my requests were unreasonable, yet I could not get answers. My time like everyone's comes at a cost and they are not spending well. What should have been a 5 minute phone call took an hour and a half. If they kept records of what they send to customers I would not have had to prove they made me this offer, if they documented calls you could pick up where you left off if you get disconnected. At the end of the day if Norton had provided superior customer service the time spent would be less and they would have saved money and then maybe had jobs for US citizens that demand a higher pay then the labor in foreign countries. Please try to match your customer service to the superior service your product provides. Time is money, even your customers, don't keep them on the phone for an hour and a half. I would also suggest transparency , as this post would have come to you in a letter and not been posted on a community posting board. Maybe have one of your executives give me a call and I can give them some hints on how to treat customers, I am more than willing. Thanks for listening.

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Re: Renewing a subscription with Norton

i had a similar experience.  Every year they email me a ridiculous renewal price.  Every year i ring up and renew at 29.99 for deluxe 360 for 5 devices.  This year the random number their stupid process generated was 84.99, just the 3 times more than last year then. Does anyone actually pay that price??  So I rang up as i always do and we go through the same ridiculous charade as last year.. They do the old "let's see what we can do for you sir" - 5 minute delay while she speaks to her manager, has another G&T,  and then by some miracle (maybe helped by the magic word "McAfee"!!) they suddenly discount by £55 back to £29.99.  Wow, what excellent value, now why not save my time and your by not sending a loyal customer an insulting email in the first place.  As you said, there is no reward for loyalty, just a penalty of having to beg for a decent price.  The AA and RAC do exactly the same with car breakdown cover.  We should all flick from one to the other and back again every year if it wasn't hassle installing and de-installing software on 5 machines every 12 months.  So i get my renewal at 29.99.  Just to say to everyone else DO NOT PAY THEIR STUPID FULL PRICES, just threaten to leave them.  At the end of the chat i ask for the customer services email to send a complaint.  Surprise surprise you can't even do that.  They don't want to know, they don't want to deal with complaints.  There is an 0800 number in the UK, but it puts you through to a faint distant operator speaking slightly broken english, and it seems it is not possible to complain.  How poor.  What contempt for their customers.  I suspect McAfee would be just the same but it might be worth trying to find out next year....

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Re: Renewing a subscription with Norton

Michael LoVullo:
I then asked if he could give me the Corporate Office mailing address so I could send a consumer complaint letter. He advised they dont know that address. 

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Kudos0

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I have the same experience as well as many, many others have (I have to believe). I deselected auto-renewal when the software was first installed, but it magically reappeared. I completely agree with the treatment of existing loyal customers, and the auto renewal is at 3 times the price. They were going to renew mine for $105, and when I declines they offered it at $35. That tells me I am nothing more than an easy mark, someone to rip off unless they get caught. I got Norton to stop unwanted popups and ads, and it turns out they are the biggest annoyance out there. There is no way to turn off daily popups, even when the 'don't show this again' is pressed. I guess it means don't show it again for a few hours. I think a company like this can and must do better. 

Kudos0

Re: Renewing a subscription with Norton

I have read many posts in this forum detailing the same or similar experiences with renewal and Norton support.

The key takeaway for me is to not contact support unless absolutely necessary and to do everything self-serve. Use you Norton account to login online and learn to do as much as you can without needing a call to support. You can certainly undo auto renew and remove your payment and billing info as well as many other things yourself.

And you can use these forums to gain more valuable info about the product with people who know and are genuinely willing to help. Just by searching these forums you can come up with answers in a short time and avoid the frustrations of calling support. Being proactive and self-sufficient is the key to being happy with Norton.

Very difficult technical issues may be a different story but then again how much technical support can you get for $29.99 per year? 

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