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Kudos0

Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

I was wondering if you can use Ghost to restore a backup image to a drive that has been wiped (zeroed out). I tried this a few times with no luck. I kept getting an error message saying "Boot MGR is missing."

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Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped


357mag wrote:

I was wondering if you can use Ghost to restore a backup image to a drive that has been wiped (zeroed out). I tried this a few times with no luck. I kept getting an error message saying "Boot MGR is missing."


Yes you can do that so long as you prepare the drive properly by creating unallocated space read this post  Here  for step by step instructions.

Deric.

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

I forgot to add that if you have more than one partition on the primary drive then all partitions needed to be backed up.

A pic of your disk management would help.

If you run into trouble get back to us and we will guide you through the correct procedure.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Am I going to be able to use Disk Management to delete the Windows Partition while I'm in there? What I tried to do was I used Active KillDisk and I wiped both my internal drives (C and F) and then I tried to restore my backup image to the C drive. Didn't work cuz I kept getting that error message.

I should be able to use KillDisk to first wipe the C Drive clean and then boot up with the Norton Recovery Disk I made and then restore my image to the wiped drive. No?

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Yes, so long as you don't give the drive a letter.

How many partitions had you got on the primary drive?

Deric

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

I got that 100MB System Reserved partition plus the normal Windows partition. And both partitions are included in the backup image.

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Good, restore both one at a time, follow the instructions provided and reboot after the second restore is finished.

 I don't need to remind you that the boot partition is C:, you can restore that one first then the 100 meg.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

100 MB SRP usually goes first and is active.

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Thanks Red for the correction.I completely clean my drives so the SRP partition is alien to me.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped


357mag wrote:

I got that 100MB System Reserved partition plus the normal Windows partition. And both partitions are included in the backup image.


Which Ghost Options did you use when you restored the images?

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Ah...Are you telling me I need to restore twice? I mean what I do is just perform one restore operation and then I'm done. I assume Ghost restores both partitions at the same time and in one go.

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Derek,

You are an image once, restore once man. How do you manage it? Personally I don't like that method as each partition requires different Options.

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped


Brian_K wrote:

Derek,

You are an image once, restore once man. How do you manage it? Personally I don't like that method as each partition requires different Options.


Brian,

when I "Clone" a drive on my multi boot machine I have to "image-restore" one at a time.

in this case if he highlighted both partitions then Ghost will recover ok.

As he is not "cloning" then he can restore both in one go.

My fault getting a bit mixed up.sorry.

Edit: If both partitions are copied under the one restore point then selecting that restore point will do the trick.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Deric, what do you mean by "cloning"? What is 357mag doing if he isn't "cloning"?

I recall one issue when restoring both images at the same time. Partition reversal and failure to boot.

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Brian,

I miss read what he was trying to do in the first place, his drive was cleaned and it threw me when he said that boot manager was missing. In fact the way I read it now is that he hadn't recovered the srp and all he needs to do is run the recovery point containig the two partitions on the primary drive onto his existing drive  a simple re-image really

That should then boot and work ok.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Not necessarily. You can restore both partitions and still get "BOOTMGR is missing". You must use the correct Ghost Options.

Kudos1 Stats

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

I thought I had all three of those options checked when I restored the backup image. I can't remember exactly now but I'll find out when I try it again.

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Brian and 357mag,

I recover 5 partitions all at the same time quite often as Brian stated early on in the thread.

In my opinion restoring all partitions together is the best way to do it.

It is essential though that the partitions are backed up all together so that they are contained in the one recovery point.

For example my primary drive has 4 partitions and my secondary drive has 2 partitions.

I use the "One Time Backup" option to create the recovery point highlighting all 5 partitions(XP, Vista, Win7(1), Win7(2) and Win8) I don't include the data partition.

The recovery point is directed into a folder on the external USB drive and when I want to "re-image" the machine all I do is boot with the SRD and recover my computer.

The next screen shows the latest recovery point, select it and all 5 partitions are ticked and blue or green (I am a bit colour blind)without having to touch anything.

Then follow the instructions to re-image and Ghost will recover them all in the correct order, simple as ABC.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped


DStain wrote:

I use the "One Time Backup" option to create the recovery point highlighting all 5 partitions(XP, Vista, Win7(1), Win7(2) and Win8) I don't include the data partition.

The recovery point is directed into a folder on the external USB drive and when I want to "re-image" the machine all I do is boot with the SRD and recover my computer.



Deric,

You imply there is a single recovery point. But you should have a separate .v2i file for each partition (5 recovery points) although I suspect you are restoring by using the .sv2i.

This might work for you but it can cause problems for others, We've seen threads where the SRP was restored in the wrong order and Win 7 didn't boot. Here is a test where this happened... (Message #67)

http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Norton-Products/Ghost15-missing-boot-partition-on-win7-64/m-p/664543#M44744

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

It doesn't always work Deric, I have documented the problem myself.

Yes, your using the .sv2i file to restore them all at once but just because it may work for you does not mean it works for everyone.  I'm pretty sure you don't even have a system reserved partition and that could be the difference.

I have a system that if I'm restoring onto a blank hard drive I can select the .sv2i file or manually select the 2 partitions one at a time.  Clicking the "edit" button shows the partitions in the correct order with the SRP first.

But after I do the recovery the SRP is restored after the OS partition and the system does not boot.

Since the SRP is only 100MB and only contains about 15MB of data, it only takes a couple minutes to restore them one at a time and ensure everything works.

Dave

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped


Brian_K wrote:

DStain wrote:

I use the "One Time Backup" option to create the recovery point highlighting all 5 partitions(XP, Vista, Win7(1), Win7(2) and Win8) I don't include the data partition.

The recovery point is directed into a folder on the external USB drive and when I want to "re-image" the machine all I do is boot with the SRD and recover my computer.



Deric,

You imply there is a single recovery point. But you should have a separate .v2i file for each partition (5 recovery points) although I suspect you are restoring by using the .sv2i.

This might work for you but it can cause problems for others, We've seen threads where the SRP was restored in the wrong order and Win 7 didn't boot. Here is a test where this happened... (Message #67)

http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Norton-Products/Ghost15-missing-boot-partition-on-win7-64/m-p/664543#M44744


Brian,

We are talking terminology again, yes there is a .v2i file for each partition, what I mean is that I only select the one date (recovery point).

When Ghost picks that up off the external drive all five partitions are there, that is what I call a recovery point under the one date.

The reason it works for me is that all my drives are "clean" by that I mean there are no "complicated" partitions like OEM or SRP.

See pic

Deric

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Dave,

I don't disagree with what you say,

as I have said before I don't have the experience of these "alien" partitions that is why I clean and format all my drives and install the O/Ss whether it be on partitions or single drives (I used to have 5 drives at one time).

I also agree that when you have these partitions they do need to be transferred separately to get it right.

For friends and relatives I have cleared their drives to eliminate complications and totally relied on Ghost to backup and recover.

I was always told to keep things as simple as possible and that is what I do but I can understand that when advice is given I can only go on what I know.

I know that you Brian and Red are always there to take it a stage further when it goes over and beyond my experience.

I think that is the best way I can put it.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

Deric,

Your WinXP partition is System, Active. It holds the booting files so it is equivalent to a SRP. Without the WinXP partition, none of your OS will boot as they don't contain booting files.

Kudos1 Stats

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped

It's equivalent to a SRP but it's a "regular" partition.  I think the bug that restores them in the wrong order has to do with the SRP being a hidden partition.  I also recall a person here having problems when 2 hidden partitions were involved, a SRP and a recovery partition.  I can restore multi-boots all day long on my test system and they come out right all the time, it's when it involves a hidden SRP is when it has problems.

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped


Brian_K wrote:

Deric,

Your WinXP partition is System, Active. It holds the booting files so it is equivalent to a SRP. Without the WinXP partition, none of your OS will boot as they don't contain booting files.


Thanks Brian for pointing that out, you live and learn.

Deric

Kudos0

Re: Restoring a backup image to a hard drive that is wiped


DaveH wrote:

It's equivalent to a SRP but it's a "regular" partition.  I think the bug that restores them in the wrong order has to do with the SRP being a hidden partition.  I also recall a person here having problems when 2 hidden partitions were involved, a SRP and a recovery partition.  I can restore multi-boots all day long on my test system and they come out right all the time, it's when it involves a hidden SRP is when it has problems.


Dave,

We had that problem many moons ago with G15,I found it was better to create multiple partitions on a single drive instead of multiple drives.I hadn't a clue about the hidden SRP but thanks for pointing it out. 

Deric

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