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Kudos0

Spam email control

Hi,

My ISP has failed here as the webfilter it uses doesnt learn (at a user level).

I am getting a number of spam emails, some of which are from the same email address.

Does NS (which I am using on a trial to compare to NIS), have a white/black list?

I do not wish to reject these emails (that verifies the email address to the spammers), but do want to quarantine them before it is downloaded (fyi), via mailwasher to outlook. (office 2013)...my email client.

I will also be looking at this for NIS (which I have an ongoing paid licence for...so if the approach is the same GREAT, if not please clarify.

How do I achieve this?

Appreciate any advise...on what would normally be a simple question (that wasnt answered within the software or a search on the forum).

regards

lethal

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Kudos0

Re: Spam email control

Who is your email provudee? Yahoo? Gmail? Spam filtering starts there. I use Gmail and get zero spam. I also do not use Outlook cause it is not needed now a days. Especially for Windows 10 users
Kudos0

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If you are using Mailwasher, as you know, that intercepts your email before it gets to your computer. Any local spam filtering will only look at what has already gotten downloaded to your computer.

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Kudos0

Re: Spam email control

Email provider. Sorry typo.
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Re: Spam email control

peterweb:

If you are using Mailwasher, as you know, that intercepts your email before it gets to your computer. Any local spam filtering will only look at what has already gotten downloaded to your computer.

As peterweb says, Mailwasher will intercept your mail before it gets to your email inbox.

I have Anti Spam turned off, read any emails on the Mailwasher server, and only download the ones I want.

No spam issues !

Windows 10 Home X64 Norton Security Premium---Current
Kudos0

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Guys,

Thanks for your responses.

It is unfortunate that symantec could not guide me here (or provide any guides on 'how too's') there are apparently no guides at all on how to quarantine, and therefore the forum had to step in.

It is unfortunate that when using a forum information must be configured and even filtered (I am one for 'complete/full disclosure').
My ISP (Optus) has a spam webfilter that needs thousands (literally) of 'report as spam' (moving items in inbox on server to spam folder)...for it to learn. It is not customisable or friendly, otherwise.

To further answer your comments/queries...

- Windows 10 live mail is as fragile as the prior ones, and secondly, it is always easier to apps one is familiar with (I moved from outlook express to outlook...when win 7 came in).

- I do use mailwasher as mentioned, and that will work in removing spam WHEN I START IT (it is locally based...not server based...so once rejected the spam has made it locally...but may be mistaken here), Mailwasher rejects or allows, nothing else (from what i believe)...i.e. it does not quarantine (so i cannot control what gets thru and what is perceived as spam).

- I am aware that as the pc is turned on most of the day, prior AV's I tested (I think it was avast), could quarantine in the background...apparently not so with nortons? Would have thought this was possible.

So I have exhausted my isp options, and from here it looks like mailwasher 24/7 (leave on without notifications turned on (I get a lot of emails)...is the best way.

Thanks for your input guys and gals...and it you have further suggestions or advise they would be most welcome.

regards

Lethal

Kudos0

Re: Spam email control

So you use your ISP's email? Correct? Your email address is something like lethal@Optus.com?
Kudos0

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HI PatsSoxBruins ,

No please re-read my last post. I use outlook (as part of office 2013)...i was looking for a way to quarantine spam emails

lethal

Kudos0

Re: Spam email control

You are still not understanding me. Outlook which is built into Microsoft Office just goes and gets your email from the server. Such as if you use Yahoo email you can still use Outllook to get your email and bring it in. But it is just as easy to go to Yahoo.com and check your email. Unless you have a private email (your own domain) no one needs Outlook. So who is your email provider? Meaning what does your email address end in? Outlook is an email client. Not an email provider. 

Kudos0

Re: Spam email control

I understand you well PatsSoxBruins.

Your response was a little aggressive.

I have mentioned multiple times that Optus is my ISP (do you not know them)?

I have dealt with them (optus) in regard to having my email only on the server, and dealt with them in regard to their webmail spam filter...all unsuccessfully.

I am looking to quarantine spam emails that continue to get thru

You advise does not assist this.

I have been thru the journey of outlook, outlook express and before (and yes I am aware they are email clients...as I also mentioned above (did you not read my responses)?

Due to the unfamilarity and fragility of windows live mail...I will not use this built in client/app.

An email client IS required my end due to the number and the ability to categoirize and configure my emails. No one should have to justify this!

If someone else has a way to achieve this, it would be most welcome.

regards

Lethal

Kudos0

Re: Spam email control

Optus is your ISP (Internet Service Provider). I am asking you who your email provider is. So your email address is something like lethal@optus.com? Is that what you are saying? My ISP is Comcast but I use Gmail for email. You are trying to control your email spam but have yet to tell me who is your email provider. 

Windows 10 doesn't use Live email. Microsoft killed that. Windows 10 does have its own email client which makes Outlook a thing of the past.
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Re: Spam email control

Hello lethal

NS is very similar to NIS. Both programs use the same version numbers, currently 22.8.1.14. I believe that the approach for emails is the same for both NIS and NS. I actually use Outlook 2013 to catch my spam emails and put them into the Junk Folder. Between Outlook 2013 and my ISP's Spam Detector not too many emails gets into my Inbox. Those that do make  it that far, I just move them to the Junk Folder.

I'm still on Win 7 Pro however.

Thanks.

Success always occurs in private and failure in full view. Windows 7 Pro 64 bit NS with BackUp 22.14.2.13 Core Firmware 237 I E 11
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All this spam hassle and Outlook hassle is exactly why I have been using Gmail for the past 10 years now.
Kudos0

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Hi, lethal. To continue this conversation, I still run Windows Live Mail 2012 which can still be found online, use Mailwasher as I said, and only download the emails I want.

That gets rid of any spam problem.

I don't use Outlook and switched to WLM when Outlook Express died, and I moved to Windows 10.

Windows 10 Home X64 Norton Security Premium---Current
Kudos0

Re: Spam email control

Hi Guys,

Thanks so much for the subsequent posts and advise.

Flopplot...you maybe on to something there, and indeed it is one approach...if it works for you why indeed not others.

PatsSoxBruins, I may have misread you (my apologies). I have heard of having a seperate email client to your isp (however this is quite uncommon among my circle...which even includes I.T folk).

Optus IS therefore the email provider (as well). I am not at all sure how you would or could seperate them?

Accordingly you (generally speaking) have my email address correct.

FYI...I have set up a gmail account for future subscriptions where I cannot be 100% of their bona fides or privacy policy (where I also use eulalyser to vet in part).

What does windows 10 have as the email client...that replaced WLM....I trust it is dissimilar?

F 4 E. I would say that delays in rejection (using mailwasher)...thereby verifying your address (almost immediately) to spammers, in addition to the fact that quarantine option is not available make mailwasher a non-solution.

regards

Lethal

Kudos0

Re: Spam email control

Nobody forces you to use their email. All your ISP is for is to provide you with an internet connection. Your free to use whatever email you want. Yahoo, Gmail, Outlook.com or even AOL. Windows 10 uses "Mail" as an email client. But I do not believe in email clients in today's day an age. Especially if you are using web based email. If I wanna check my email I just got to Gmail.com. It's that easy. Outlook is a thing of the past. Just like Microsoft Office is. Why spend money on an office suite when there are several free choices along with Google Docs. So instead of fighting spam don't................Switch to Gmail and be done with it. 

I have not received any spam emails in about 3 months now. Google filters 99.9% of spam. When I signed up for Comcast many years ago they gave me an email address. All I use it for is to pay my Comcast bill. 

Kudos0

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Nobody is forced to anything (within reason).

I CHOOSE to use a email client..not (what i call) a server based email system.

I chose outlook, not outlook.com, not WLM, not thunderbird...or any of the others.

You clearly state and show you dont beleive in them...thats fine for YOU.

MS Office comes in useful other ways...and again, I am familiar with it.

Yes there are options there too. The  competitors have indeed caught up.

However, in the scenario or situation I posed to this forum...the response is unhelpful.

lethal

Kudos0

Re: Spam email control

You clearly do not understand what Outlook does. Microsoft Outlook is not an email provider. It is not an email address. It is merely an email client (A go gettter). All Outlook does is get your email from your email provider (Optus, Gmail, Yahoo, Outllook.com) and brings it into Outlook. Outlook.com took over Hotmail years ago. You keep complaining that your Optus email is flooded with spam. Well stop using it and use something else. If you switch to Gmail you can still use Outlook if you wish to do so. But it is quicker to go to Gmail.com and check it there. Plus if you use Outllook as your mail source of reading email you will only be able to access it from your pc. I can go anywhere in the world. Log into any pc in the world and check my email. All without ANY spam. 

Kudos0

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If the email I was using was flooded with spam my first step would be to change email providers.
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PatsSoxBruins, i have had enough of the barbs

I do understand what ms outlook does.

It seems you have a problem communicating with someone who has a unexpected issue and a different perspective from what you are used to, with trying to be assertive or insulting their intelligence.

Kudos0

Re: Spam email control

if you cannot get over the moat..................find another way into the castle. 

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