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Kudos0

System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

My Hard Drive has a sector (Virtual Drive) named 'System Reserved.  This was set up when I loaded up Windows 7 from new.

This drive is visible to Norton Internet Security Tools and when analysed it is shown to be 15% fragmented.

However, Norton wil NOT defrag it and as time goes by, the fragmentation becomes greater.

How can this be defragmented ?  If it can't, does it matter ?

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Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

I wouldn't worry about it as it is for Windows and only anywhere from 99 to 200 MB in size

Play around with it and you may find Windows won't boot or boot properly.

Quads

Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

Thanks for you response Quads.

It just seems odd that the Norton defrag window says "Only disks that can be defragmented are shown".  This disk is shown but it can't be defragmented.

Why is it shown then ?

If I ignore it, what will happen when the disk gets more and more fragmented, is it likely to slow down windows performance ?

Shamal

Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

"Only disks that can be defragmented are shown"

The System Reserved partition is on the same disk as the working "Windows" partition (usually C:\) and systems can also have a Recovery partition  and even a data partition with Acers and Emachines.

Quads

Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

Shamal:

My Hard Drive has a sector (Virtual Drive) named 'System Reserved.  This was set up when I loaded up Windows 7 from new.

Quick question if I may.  R U referring to Virtual Disk <link>  ?   How does W7 use "System Reserved" ?   Is "System Reserved" the Recovery Partition ?

Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

I don't understand the question and have no idea how Windows 7 uses the System Reserved  Disk. I'm just a user not an expert

If it's the same drive as 'C' then why is it shown separately and why is it not defragmented along with the C Drive ?

If it can't be defragmented why do Norton display it in the table ?

See attached Norton Window

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Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

Shamal:

I don't understand the question and have no idea how Windows 7 uses the System Reserved  Disk. I'm just a user not an expert
If it's the same drive as 'C' then why is it shown separately and why is it not defragmented along with the C Drive ?
If it can't be defragmented why do Norton display it in the table ?

The window in your image is Windows Defrag as Norton calls up Windows native defrag / optimize.    I vaguely remember Acer and Emachine created the Recovery Partition on Windows (C:).   I had an Emachine back in the day.  HP and such call the Recovery Partition  ~ Recovery (D:)

The Recovery Partition is not accessible in normal use and as such does not become fragmented.  Over time stuff happens and Recovery may show some fragmentation.  "Analyze" is not a precise absolute science.  Just a comparative before v after.   But, Recovery has no need to be defragged for any purpose to the system.   FWIW ~ I seldom run Defrag and don't use Norton to call up Windows native Defrag / Optimize.  I can call up a Defrag app when I notice an obvious degradation to performance.  Modern file systems don't require defrag at any specified interval.   And SSD's have their own rule sets. 

EDIT: Nikhil post is on the mark.   Thanks Nikhil !

Kudos2 Stats

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

Just leave the recovery partitions and System reserved drives as it is. They are there for a reason.

By default, Norton product will list out all drive partitions regardless of if it is hidden / unnamed.
Read about system reserved partitions at :
http://www.howtogeek.com/192772/what-is-the-system-reserved-partition-an...
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Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

Quick question if I may.  R U referring to Virtual Disk <link>  (link is external)?   How does W7 use "System Reserved" ?   Is "System Reserved" the Recovery Partition ?

No the System Reserved is the System Reserved, with the correct flag,   I have had to deal with it in the past with MaxSS, Pihar and the like

Also Acer uses PQSERVICE not Recovery as the name for the recovery partition 

1 Drive c: (SYSTEM RESERVED) (Fixed) (Total:0.1 GB) (Free:0.06 GB) NTFS ==>[Drive with boot components (obtained from BCD)]
2 Drive d: (Acer) (Fixed) (Total:282.99 GB) (Free:196.83 GB) NTFS                  <<<<<=======Working Windows Partition
3 Drive e: (PQSERVICE) (Fixed) (Total:15 GB) (Free:2.81 GB) NTFS               <<<<<======= Recovery Partition
7 Drive x: (Boot) (Fixed) (Total:0.03 GB) (Free:0.03 GB) NTFS

Quads

Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

Quads:

No the System Reserved is the System Reserved, with the correct flag,   I have had to deal with it in the past with MaxSS, Pihar and the like [..]

Thanks, I found WINRE on my setup as never run.   Never looked for it, before this Thread  & Thanks Nikhil for good info

Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

Maybe the reason is in your case, you are not suppose to look for it, same with other users 

Considering in logs here and other instructions here in the past has mentioned or listed the partitions 

Things are hidden for a reason  to attempt dangerous hands and minds from seeing it and avoid any damage. 

Quads

Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

Many thanks for all the responses to my question.

I think I'll just follow your advice, leave it alon and forget about it

Shamal

Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

Quads:

Maybe the reason is in your case, you are not suppose to look for it, same with other users 

Considering in logs here and other instructions here in the past has mentioned or listed the partitions 

Things are hidden for a reason  to attempt dangerous hands and minds from seeing it and avoid any damage. 

Quads

WINRE on my system is NOT hidden.  Your wisdom, experience and knowledge are always welcomed and appreciated. 

As always you're entitled to offer your disrespectful, opinionated, unwarranted, unproven criticisms.    We'll continue to make allowances as we always have.  

Peace and Joy

Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

It is not  unproven, items are hidden and "protected" for a reason, simple  Microsoft did so to help protect Windows .etc from the user, So that a user can't (normally) see items so they don't do things to what they can't see.

For like this  " Is "System Reserved" the Recovery Partition ?"   hmmm I don't want the recovery partition so I will delete my  "System Reserved" ( I think it is my Recovery Partition)  partition .

Or I have had the owner with me as I work on their system (at their house) and I show hidden items and they say " oh where did they come from do I have to delete all them" hahaha no otherwise Windows is stuffed.

There are legit reason the likes of files and partitions are hidden.

Quads

Kudos0

Re: System Reserved Hard Drive Sector

Quads,

Both are something I can confirm seeing happen -- or to be more accurate to have seen the result of it happening! -- in support work on CompuServe.

Alas, most users (and some not-so-newbies) need to be protected from themselves; in technology, there's nothing as dangerous as a little knowledge !

Hugh

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