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What's with the huge definitions files?

Yesterday I got a 15 megabyte definitions file when running live update which was as follows: Norton 2010 web protection Norton 2010 Virus definitions Norton 2010 pulse updates Today I ran live update again and the file size was 53.92 megabytes. Nothing about any major updates or patches. I think something is wrong here, that is nearly the size of a full Norton 2010 install if my memory serves me right, but no mention of this anywhere from Symantec as far as I can see. So just exactly what has been installed on my computer Symantec? At this rate I will end up going over my monthly download allowance. I would really like to know what is being installed when the file size is that large.

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Kudos1 Stats

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

Details on each LiveUpdate session will be logged under the Security History -> LiveUpdate. Kindly view 'More Details' of the LU session you mentioned about. This advanced details should give you list of updates you recieved and if the updates are successfull or not.


Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

Hello Thalir

re > Details on each LiveUpdate session will be logged under the Security History -> LiveUpdate.

I (usually) manually run LiveUpdate twice a session.  I received two 28MB LU on 7/25 / Sunday.  View Summary - displayed Virus / Web Updates...normal stuff.  I don't have a 'LiveUpdate' dropdown option at my Security History pane.  How do I view a list of Updates I received.  The manual run LU 28MB's does seem odd...    

Review of Security History for 7/25...Community Watch Info - Statistical Submission: RMC_AR32.exe ?

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?


Thalir wrote:

Details on each LiveUpdate session will be logged under the Security History -> LiveUpdate. Kindly view 'More Details' of the LU session you mentioned about. This advanced details should give you list of updates you recieved and if the updates are successfull or not.



Like BJM, I do not have a liveupdate dropdown option. As I log on as a standard user I will check whilst being logged on as Admin to see if I can find this mystery option, but it certainly is not showing when logged on as standard user.

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

Maybe if Symantec would state the size of definitions above a certain size at least on here: http://www.symantec.com/business/security_response/definitions/multipledaily/index.jsp  it would be better.

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

Yesterday, i too, received updates  that were that high in megabytes. One was 15 and one was 53. After the updates, i viewed summary and there was only the usual antiphishing and virus definitions updates.  Each one only said 2 of 2 or 3 of 3 updates.

Thanks Kevin

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

re > [...] there was only the usual antiphishing and virus definitions updates.  Each one only said 2 of 2 or 3 of 3 updates.

             same 'Summary' info for me...

LU behavior just seemed odd.... ?  

Maybe a weekend rollup or just timing as to when I ran LU ?

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?


TooStrong wrote:

Yesterday, i too, received updates  that were that high in megabytes. One was 15 and one was 53. After the updates, i viewed summary and there was only the usual antiphishing and virus definitions updates.  Each one only said 2 of 2 or 3 of 3 updates.

Thanks Kevin


Thanks TooStrong, you have confirmed that I was not the only one. However it still does not answer why a seemingly normal  virus and antiphising definitions should have a file size of 15 megabytes and 53 megabytes respectively. Is there something Symantec is not telling us here? These were after all just definitions files, it was not a Norton upgrade or even a patch. That is not normal, to have definitions files that are not far off the size of a full Norton installation seemingly from just updates to definitions files. Am I missing something here or what?

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

Hello Topic

Might anyone know what is RMC_AR32.exe

Community Watch Info - Statistical Submission: RMC_AR32.exe ?

I'll post screenshot if asked

Thanks

Kudos1 Stats

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

I experienced this myself, and so has someone in the German Norton Forum :-) Looks like it's a global occurrence :-D

http://de.community.norton.com/t5/Norton-Internet-Security-Norton/NIS-2010-Updates-enorm-gross/td-p/4386

Your Norton Ladybug.
Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

Am also interested why there were 2 Mega Updates and only defenitions ???

The First was 15 MB

 

The Second    30 + MB

usually they are 1-3 MB Max

Any explanation Symantac ?

Kudos3 Stats

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?


Thalir wrote:

Details on each LiveUpdate session will be logged under the Security History -> LiveUpdate. Kindly view 'More Details' of the LU session you mentioned about. This advanced details should give you list of updates you recieved and if the updates are successfull or not.



I believe that Thalir was referring to the NIS2011 BETA here as there is a Live Update History log there.

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Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

Hi Yaso_Kuuhl

Thanks for your interest and information...

re > I experienced this myself, [...]

I presume you are referring to the XXMB's LU....

This Statistical Submission...RMC_AR32.EXE occurred same day and is also odd, as all other entries are Norton Community Watch Submission.  Any idea about RMC / related to the XXMB's LU ?

Thanks reactivate for posting Topic

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

I think they are Virus Definitions that symantec have been working on for a few months now because that is the first time in two months that there have been two V.D. Updates for Norton 2008 Products and Newer at the weekend, granted that it only happened on the Sunday, July 25, 2010.   I would highly-recommend all Norton 2006 Products users run a Full System Scan right now.

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Kudos3 Stats

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?


dbrisendine wrote:

Thalir wrote:

Details on each LiveUpdate session will be logged under the Security History -> LiveUpdate. Kindly view 'More Details' of the LU session you mentioned about. This advanced details should give you list of updates you recieved and if the updates are successfull or not.



I believe that Thalir was referring to the NIS2011 BETA here as there is a Live Update History log there.


Oops Its my mistake. I have spoken about the option avialable in NIS 2011 beta and totally forgot that this is not available in lower versions of NIS. dbrisendine is correct.


And regarding the size of the latest update, I am not able to answer since I do not have enough information. Will try to contact any of the LU team members if possible and let you people know.

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?


Thalir wrote:

dbrisendine wrote:

Thalir wrote:

Details on each LiveUpdate session will be logged under the Security History -> LiveUpdate. Kindly view 'More Details' of the LU session you mentioned about. This advanced details should give you list of updates you recieved and if the updates are successfull or not.



I believe that Thalir was referring to the NIS2011 BETA here as there is a Live Update History log there.


Oops Its my mistake. I have spoken about the option avialable in NIS 2011 beta and totally forgot that this is not available in lower versions of NIS. dbrisendine is correct.


And regarding the size of the latest update, I am not able to answer since I do not have enough information. Will try to contact any of the LU team members if possible and let you people know.


Thankyou Thalir it will be helpful if you can do this.

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

I'll post a New Message for my RMC query

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

Hello Thalir

Thalir wrote:

Will try to contact any of the LU team members if possible and let you people know.

Any info from LU team

FWIW my user\appdata\local\temp has XXMB's pointing to Norton since the huge def files...

my tracks eraser app finds this kinda' stuff


I had a lost list of Temp1, 2, 3, 4 all pointing to Norton...my tracks eraser app has been working on MB's for last few days. IDK
Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

bjm_ & All,

I am not able to get the proper information on this. No one from my workplace is related to LU. sorry to say this.

Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?


Thalir wrote:

bjm_ & All,

I am not able to get the proper information on this. No one from my workplace is related to LU. sorry to say this.


I appreciate you getting back to us Thalir, but I am disappointed that nobody from Symantec is able to answer my question. I'm beginning to think there is some issue with Symantec employees, a lot of people have brought up the fact that definitions files are not being released as often as they used to be or at certain times at least, this is a bit of a concern to me as I want to ensure I have the most up to date protection. I dont think it looks very good that no one from Symantec staff who visit this forum are able to give me an explanation to my question on the size of the recent definitions updates, I mean it cant be that difficult to get an answer surely.

Kudos3 Stats

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

reactivate, I don't have any specifics on this issue but I do know that there was an issue with the virus definitions postings on the 25th and 26th resulting in increased size. I suspect that the issue caused your system to download a full set of definitions rather than just the changes from your previous set.

Reese AnschultzSenior Software Quality Assurance Manager, Symantec Corporation
Kudos0

Re: What's with the huge definitions files?

Good day reese_anschultz

As always (if I may) acknowledge your time, interest and contributions to the Community.

I appreciate your time, interest and contributions...

I appreciate all Symantec Employees that contribute their time and interest...

and your acknowledgement that there was an issue. 

Thnx 

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