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Where do I go to find out what is the difference between A public image,and a private image?

Is there a place other than Tony's post on the use of Images? Sorry if I have missed something!

And what is the privacy  on the images uploaded? Are they deleted fully from all Symantec servers? Just thinking of the questions that may need some answers.....Love the availability of the service though!!

Message Edited by mo on 02-27-2009 10:55 PM
Cheers Mo Windows 7 64 bit, NIS2013

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Kudos0

Re: Where do I go to find out what is the difference between A public image,and a private image?

Is there a place other than Tony's post on the use of Images? Sorry if I have missed something!

And what is the privacy  on the images uploaded? Are they deleted fully from all Symantec servers? Just thinking of the questions that may need some answers.....Love the availability of the service though!!

Message Edited by mo on 02-27-2009 10:55 PM
Cheers Mo Windows 7 64 bit, NIS2013
Kudos0

Re: Where do I go to find out what is the difference between A public image,and a private image?

By posting Images, you are granting (a) to all members of your private community (for each such Images available to members of such private community), and/or (b) to the general public (for each such Images available anywhere on the Services, other than a private community), permission to use your Images in connection with the use, as permitted hereunder, of any of the Services, (including, by way of example, and not as a limitation, making prints and gift items which include such Images), and including, without limitation, a non-exclusive, world-wide, royalty-free license to: copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, reproduce, edit, translate and reformat your Images without having your name attached to such Images, and the right to sublicense such rights to any supplier of the Services. The licenses granted in the preceding sentences for Images will terminate at the time you completely remove such Images from the Services, provided that, such termination shall not affect any licenses granted in connection with such Images prior to the date on which you removed such Images

I found this in Terms of service.Does this include images in the  New upload feature? I'm looking for instructions on what if I choose PUBLIC does that mean anyone can view it other than the moderators.And who can view the private.

Thanks for your help.

By the way the above terms of service would be more helpful in plain english!! Non lawyer speak!! 

Cheers Mo Windows 7 64 bit, NIS2013
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Re: Where do I go to find out what is the difference between A public image,and a private image?

Hi Mo,

Click someone's name to go to their profile, in the left column you will find 'Image Gallery'.   If your looking at mine, you will see that I currently have one public image.  I have several others there also that are "private".    Public vs. Private determines what shows up in each users "image gallery".

Now if you use a "private" image in a post somewhere, then the image is not really private because you have displayed it in the post, BUT it is still private in the sense that it doesn't appear in your image gallery.

So one might ask then, why even have public vs private?  Don't forget that our forum software is software that is used by more than just this forum.  The feature is generic to the software and not made specifically for this forum.  In other types of communities (forums) there are differnt ways this would be more useful than it is to us here in the Norton community.


mo wrote:

Are they deleted fully from all Symantec servers?



Once you upload an image to any public site on the internet, you never have complete control of the image again.  While you can completely delete it from your gallery and prevent it from every being displayed here again, there is no telling where copies exist.  For example: yesterday you uploaded 2 screenshots (it was the same picture one set as Public and the other set as Private), since then you have deleted both of those, but since I approved both of those images they probably still exist in my computers cache at this point.  I could have saved them specifically as well (I didn't), and other non-mods could have saved off the public one.   

....and we haven't even gotten to the topic of search bots yet.   For a good demo of how this works to to Google and type this in the search box -->  'site:community.norton.com mo'  (don't type the single quotes)   and try this one 'site:community.norton.com "Solution button.jpg" '  (in this one don't type the single quotes but DO type the double quotes)     The moral of the story: Search engine bots come and pick up all the forum content (including the images) pretty quickly.

Kudos0

Re: Where do I go to find out what is the difference between A public image,and a private image?

 Allen you are priceless!!

Thank you for the reply and example.I thought as much, in regards to being careful on this site and others about image uploads and what you are willing to leave flying around the internet.


Allen_K wrote:

 The feature is generic to the software and not made specifically for this forum.  In other types of communities (forums) there are different ways this would be more useful than it is to us here in the Norton community.


I think this software is actually a very useful tool it's only that those who use  it should know the guidelines for what will happen to their image.

1) Make sure you have edited out any identifying names/IP addresses

2) If its an image of your NIS/NAV/360,I do not think there is a worry with leaving it as a legacy on the net.

3)If in doubt edit it out,learn what is the needed information.

That's what I thought private meant,So one of those images was a mistake so hence I deleted it.

4)Be careful of what's behind what you want to show in the screenshot,ie your desktop,screensaver etc do you want to show what's on your desktop or your screensaver.

Thank you again Allen,

Do you think a set of guidelines for those who may not know what the risks are with uploading images.Maybe it would be helpful if it would be posted at the front of the forums in that new member introduction area? I know it may be more work but I think A security company should be involved with the learning side as well as the software!

Anyone else have some tips/tricks with images??

especially when it comes to the IP numbers etc which show in logs which ones do you need to edit out which to leave??

Cheers Mo Windows 7 64 bit, NIS2013
Kudos0

Re: Where do I go to find out what is the difference between A public image,and a private image?

Thanks Allen_K for the nice explanation.

Something I don't understand, though, is why Norton requires Flash  to upload images:

"You must install or upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Flash Player before you can upload images. Visit the Adobe website to download and install the latest Adobe Flash Player."

Why is this necessary? Why can't Norton just use Javascript instead of Flash? For instance, at Photobucket I use Javascript only (no Flash) and it works fine. Some of us avoid Flash like the plague, because of its long history of never-ending security vulnerabilities.Yeah sure it's the Norton site so it's presumably safe, but I still won't use Flash, period.

(Potential anticipated response from someone else out there: "Stop being a Luddite and worrying so much, it's Norton, it's got to be safe, the Norton site doesn't have any common programming errors, you're just being silly" or thoughts to that effect.)

Guess I'll just keep using Photobucket.

Anyway, for the 99.9%  of the world who is fine with using Adobe Flash, the new Norton image upload thing is probably an excellent improvement.

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Edited to add: Yes, I'm quite well aware that Javascript has its own set of security concerns, and I seldom allow it either except when actually necessary for certain specific sites, and even on those I use NoScript (with Firefox) to cut down on the potential for CSS (cross site scripting) exploits. Maybe it's just that I'm somewhat more "used to" Javascript. In any case, I will never allow Flash, no exceptions. Just my preference.

Message Edited by j2000 on 03-01-2009 08:44 PM
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Re: Where do I go to find out what is the difference between A public image,and a private image?


j2000 wrote:

Something I don't understand, though, is why Norton requires Flash  to upload images:

"You must install or upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Flash Player before you can upload images. Visit the Adobe website to download and install the latest Adobe Flash Player."


True.   Understand that this particular choice was not Norton / Symantec but the communities software vendor, Lithium Technologies.  My understanding is this could change in the future, but I don't know enough about the specifics to comment.


j2000 wrote: 

Guess I'll just keep using Photobucket.


 Thank you so much for that comment.  It allows me to point out that the old way still works.  When you utilize the image tool on the editors toolbar, just click on the third tab of the pop-up that is labeled "From Another Site" and you can still insert graphics from another site such as photobucket or imageshack.     

Kudos0

Re: Where do I go to find out what is the difference between A public image,and a private image?


Allen_K wrote:

j2000 wrote: 

Guess I'll just keep using Photobucket.


Thank you so much for that comment.  It allows me to point out that the old way still works.  When you utilize the image tool on the editors toolbar, just click on the third tab of the pop-up that is labeled "From Another Site" and you can still insert graphics from another site such as photobucket or imageshack.     


Cool  - thanks Allen!

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