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Kudos0

Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

With the arrival of Windows 10 tomorrow what is the best way to run the upgrade from Windows 7/8/8.1?  Should NS/NIS be deactivated or uninstalled and then reinstalled after the upgrade?

Should we all wait a few weeks before upgrading to see what happens to the brave who upgrade immediately?

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Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Dunno about deactivating NS. But have you reserved your copy of Windows 10? By reserving Windows 10 many of the necessary Windows 10 files are pre-downloaded via Windows Updates so that if/when you decide to upgrade, the upgrade will take less time.

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

FWIW: AV - Comparatives has published a list of Security Products that Are AV-Comparative's Approved for Windows 10.

The list does not include NS which IMHO is a dirty trick, unethical, and unfair. It does not include NS because it only tested security solutions participating in its public main-tests. As we know Norton does not participate in those tests because it has major objections to the real world accuracy of one of the AV-C tests, and to be eligible for any AV-C test a company has to agree to take part in all of its tests.

In any event, while not totally clear, AV-C states : "For users who plan to install Windows 10 by upgrading an existing Windows 7 or 8.1 system, we recommended uninstalling the existing security program before updating, and then installing the latest version of the program when the upgrade is complete."

http://www.av-comparatives.org/windows-10-approved-products/

It is not totally clear to me from the language used that you should uninstall a version of a security product that is fully Windows 10 ready prior to upgrading to Windows 10 and then install the latest version of that security product after the upgrade is complete. But my best guess interpretation is to uninstall NS before Upgrading to Windows 10." Just double check that uninstalling NS has re-enabled your Windows Firewall. Your interpretation may vary.

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Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

The first thing I will do is make a backup image of my OS (I use Macrium Free) and will let MS do its thing with the upgrade. If you reserved your copy of W10 the update program GWX will check your system and give you a report. The only program it will remove on my system is Windows Media Center so it is happy with NIS 22.5.2.15 so I will not do anything. If it fails then It has a procedure to go back or I can use my image to restore my old OS. I have done version upgrades to W10 with NIS installed and all worked just fine. But please do a backup of your system to be safe.

If you are not sure then wait. You have a year to get the free upgrade.For good information check out http://www.tenforums.com 

Jim

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

sewing1243:

Should we all wait a few weeks before upgrading to see what happens to the brave who upgrade immediately?

Definitely.  That would be the prudent thing to do.  It is inevitable that some problems and incompatibilities will crop up, and unless you have some compelling reason to upgrade to Windows 10 immediately, there is no reason to volunteer your system for the initial shakeout period.  You certainly want to be sure that all of the programs you depend on will be supported in Windows 10.  This means that you may need to get the very latest upgraded versions of those programs before installing the new OS.

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Hi all,

My 2 cents,

In the past I've never tried to upgrade an OS over an existing OS (for example, I didn't try installing Windows 7 on top of Windows Vista. I always chose the option for a clean install, removing the old operating system and installing the new). So I expected to have to reinstall my AV and all my applications, for that matter.

I'm not sure if this installation will remove the previous operating system (Win 7/8/8.1), or if it will do an install over top. Maybe a hybrid of both, where the old is removed while still preserving existing applications.

My GWX told me my applications are compatible, including NS.

As PhoneMan has stated, the best thing to do is back everything up. This could be a very tricky installation, and certainly a novel installation.

I've already downloaded the latest version of NS and have my activation code handy, so I'll spend as little time as possible on the net without AV protection.

Win 10 Home x64, NS 22.5.5.15, AMD A6-5400K APU and 6GB RAM
Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

hi

Just a thought, when upgrading from one OS to another or indeed reinstalling an existing OS in the past all existing programs previously installed including Norton needed to be reinstalled as the upgrade/reinstall takes your device to "factory settings" in general when carrying out a clean install.

I believe apps installed from the Market need to be downloaded again once Windows 10 is in place.

Would this not be the case when upgrading to Windows 10 with ordinary software if Market Apps need to be installed?

Michael

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Hi michaelsalis,

As the minutes count down we're all wondering what's going to happen. It will be interesting to see if files and apps will be preserved, or if we'll all be starting over again with a new operating system.

Win 10 Home x64, NS 22.5.5.15, AMD A6-5400K APU and 6GB RAM
Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

hi

I'm not sure about Laptops and Tablets although from what I read from All About Windows Phone all the Apps need to be downloaded from the Market for those trying the Windows Phone 10 Insiders Program once Windows 10 has been installed. Thinking it could be the same for Windows 10 on Computers.

Michael 

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

sewing1243:

With the arrival of Windows 10 tomorrow [ ... ]
Should we all wait a few weeks before upgrading to see what happens to the brave who upgrade immediately?

From what Microsoft have said those who participated in the Insider Program and got Windows 10 up to the current Build 10240 will begin to get it available to install on 29 July plus those who buy new machines with it installed (in which case check what trial software may be installed and get instructions on what to do with it before trying to complete the installation of any Norton) and those who find they can buy the installation media on a thumbdrive but those are for "later" I believe.

So I doubt if we can seriously consider it as arriving yet! Microsoft are continuing to use Insider Program members as guinea pigs as the further finish refining Windows 10 -- we all know from experience here how any release version runs into system or user situations that were not encountered during testing ....

Although the Download to our machines will be outside the user's control I also understand that the actual installation will be at the option of the user. So when you do get it be careful what you click on!

I shall certainly wait for at least a month.

Hugh
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Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

I have just one word of advice for people wondering whether to jump into Windows 10 immediately, or not.

WAIT.

Windows 10 Home X 64 Norton Security Premium Current
Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

From what I'm seeing on my Windows 8.1 PCs Microsoft is planning on forcing this update if you have Windows update set to automatic update because the Windows 10 update is marked as "important" and is already checked (tried unchecking it on all my PCs and it rechecks itself). As far as I can tell the only way to stop it from installing is to turn off the automatic update function.
The Windows Update FAQ page says: "Windows Update automatically installs important updates as they become available"

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Hello

I believe they changed that faq to have a choice like it is now due to negative feedback. Thanks.

Success always occurs in private and failure in full view. Windows 7 Pro 64 bit NSBU 22.17.0.183 Core Firmware 282 I E 11 Chrome latest version.
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Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

While I won't speculate on whether you should update to Windows 10 immediately, I will say that you should make sure your Norton product is updated to 22.5.2.15 before updating to Windows 10. See my latest announcement for more info.

Tony Weiss | Norton Forums Global Community Manager | Symantec Corporation
Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Though it is only my first day with it (not counting the previews) I have upgraded 3 machines to Windows 10 and it has gone very well.

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Hello @xxJackxx

Would you be able to give us a description of the process you had to go through to do your installs of Window 10 for us please? That is if it isn't too much trouble. We have had some who are reporting problems doing the installs. Perhaps your experiences would help them. Thanks.

Success always occurs in private and failure in full view. Windows 7 Pro 64 bit NSBU 22.17.0.183 Core Firmware 282 I E 11 Chrome latest version.
Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Jack

In particular could you say if you downloaded the ISO as indicated by Microsoft one can now and whether you used the new Media Creation Tool which I gather can not only create the media but also includes "Upgrade this Computer" -- if you did that did it do a normal upgrade without destroying anything like setting, applications or data or does it in fact do a clean install.

TIA

Hugh
Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Upgrading one machine [only] as I type.

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
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Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

I downloaded the W10 ISO and just mounted it in Windows 8.1 and selected setup.exe.

45min later I was good to go. I left NIS running and it worked fine on the other side.

A couple MS apps didn't work but they may need an update. All my main programs came through just fine but some had minor problems but new W10 version were available.

Jim

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Hey Jim,

I know there is probably an easy way to do it, but how do I change the clock to use 12hr time instead of 24hr time?

Thanks,
Dave

A little bit of knowledge is... well a little bit of knowledge.
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Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

Open the Date and Time setting and at the bottom select Change date and time format.

In the time formats h=12hr H=24hr

Jim

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

PhoneMan:

Open the Date and Time setting and at the bottom select Change date and time format.

In the time formats h=12hr H=24hr

Jim

This doesn't appear when you access Date & Time via right mouse click on the time in the taskbar (nor in the associated HELP) nor via Control Panel in my Windows 7 Home Premium.

Yet I'm sure I've seen it somewhere!

Ah:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-desktop/control-panel-change-12-hour-clock-to-24-hour/490a874b-7d3a-4fa4-ad38-c6ebc24a854a?auth=1

You have to go in via  Regional and Language Options  ....

However I bet this changes it everywhere including in applications?

Hugh
Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

On Windows 10 desktop, left click the clock on task bar. On bottom of the next page click Date and Time settings. On next page at bottom click Change Date and Time Formats.

Jim

Kudos0

Re: Windows 10 avaliable tomorrow if Microsoft meets its schedule

They have added that in 10 -- makes sense. I'll check mine when I'm in it again later.

Yours is a standard US installation?

Hugh

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