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Vault opens behind browser

Since the Norton Identity safe rarely prompts to open on my machines I often need to manually open the vault by clicking the VAULT IS CLOSED button.  This is now causing the vault sign in window to open behind the browser requiring yet another mouse click on the Task Bar icon to bring the sign in window into focus.

Yet another move away from a user-friendly, reliable password manager. 

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Re: Vault opens behind browser

Hi everyone,

We have released a new product update 'Norton 22.5.5.14' [English Only now] which fixes this issue. 

Announcement Here: https://community.norton.com/en/blogs/product-update-announcements/norton-2255-product-update-available-now

Could you please run Live Update until all the updates are installed and then check for the issue?

Please let us know if you still face the problem.

Thanks for your patience.

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Im glad im not the only one getting this,this was going on before the patch where it would show up then when you typed the password it was going into firefox search

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Sorry for the issue you are facing.

Thanks for reporting the same.

We are tracking this issue.

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Re: Vault opens behind browser

viveksu:

Sorry for the issue you are facing.

Thanks for reporting the same.

We are tracking this issue.

Thanks Viveksu.

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Re: Vault opens behind browser

Mine has started doing the same thing.  It did not do immediately after the NIS 22.05.124 update but several days later when NIS updated with some kind of patch. 

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Hello NIStrack

That patch was for FF 39 and to fix some FF crashes.

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@Krusty13

I may be misreading your post, but I have moved my Safe Log-in Screen slightly off to one side and it does in fact pop up in front (focused) over my IE browser page.  Of course I am using a 23 inch screen so you may not have the real estate available to move it slightly out from behind the open browser page

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I also notice that since downloading/installing the latest Norton 360 patch the other day, when I click the Norton toolbar "Open Vault" button in Firefox 38.0.5 the login screen is no longer on top-- it's "buried" behind the browser.

I hunted through the settings and preferences to see if users now had to select "always show Identity Safe login window on top", but couldn't find any user settings for this option.

Frankly, it's a nuisance.  If it ain't broke, don't "fix" it.  Please either unfix it or fix the fix.

Thanks.

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yank:

@Krusty13

I may be misreading your post, but I have moved my Safe Log-in Screen slightly off to one side and it does in fact pop up in front (focused) over my IE browser page.  Of course I am using a 23 inch screen so you may not have the real estate available to move it slightly out from behind the open browser page

Yank,

I'm glad it works for you but as you can see I am not alone.

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Re: Vault opens behind browser

They may have fixed this with the patch released today for the login fill problem.

Mine is working good now.

Jim

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Re: Vault opens behind browser

Glad to hear it, but FYI I installed the patch this morning with high hopes.  Unfortunately, the login window still doesn't open on top, i.e. in front of the browser, as it did formerly.

I tried shutting down, powering off and restarting after the patch was successfully installed -- what used to be called a "cold boot"-- but got the same result.

I don't know who decides that a problem is solved, but this problem hasn't been solved on this computer.  Yes, it's minor, but it is a step backwards that ought to be corrected.

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Re: Vault opens behind browser

Mine is fixed as well with this patch for the auto login fix!

If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!
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Hello PhoneMan & MPSAN

Could you each tell me which sites are now working which didn't before. Mohan would like to know and if there are any that you come across that don't work also. Thanks.

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Hello

The patch that came out today was just to fix the auto login issue. There will be other patches which will fix other issues. Thanks.

EDIT: Just brought this thread to the attention of Mohan. Perhaps this issue will be worked on next. No promises though.

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PhoneMan:

They may have fixed this with the patch released today for the login fill problem.

Mine is working good now.

Jim

Same here so far.  I will monitor for a few days before I call it solved.

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PhoneMan:

They may have fixed this with the patch released today for the login fill problem.

Mine is working good now.

Jim

I posted too soon. It was working for a while but after a reboot it's back behind FF again.

Jim

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PhoneMan:
PhoneMan:

They may have fixed this with the patch released today for the login fill problem.

Mine is working good now.

Jim

I posted too soon. It was working for a while but after a reboot it's back behind FF again.

Jim

Touch wood, the vault is still working as expected for me with FF, even after restarting.

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Re: Vault opens behind browser

Running 22.5.0.124 with the recent patch and I am having the same problem.  Vault login window opens behind the browser window.

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Mine is still working but did not update yet to FireFox 39.

If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!
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I spoke to soon! The patch fixed this on my FF 38 but when I updated Firefox to 39 I have this issue again. So, whatever is causing this to open to my Task Bar is happening when I went to FF 39!

If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!
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Re: Vault opens behind browser

This issue appears to be solved for me.

Those that are still having the vault login window show behind the browser may like to start a new thread.

Thanks.

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Re: Vault opens behind browser

Changed the 'Solution' post to satisfy @floplot.

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What is/was the solution?

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My solution was the latest update to the toolbar.

If this update hasn't solved your problem please feel free to start a new thread.

Thanks.

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Your link says "Access Denied".

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Your right!  Sorry about that.

A toolbar patch was released to fix some auto-fill logins on some sites.  The patch solved the vault sign in window opening behind the browser on my machines.  The version number of the toolbars has not changed so there doesn't appear to be an announcement post.

Cheers

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NIStrack:

Your link says "Access Denied".

Try this one.

https://community.norton.com/en/comment/6482971#comment-6482971

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Strange. It was OK in FF 38 but failed in FF 39. Then once in a while it would work in FF39, so not sure what they broke to make it open in my taskbar. I then need to click the taskbar icon to open id safe and log into my LOCAL vault.

If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!
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Krusty13:

Since the Norton Identity safe rarely prompts to open on my machines I often need to manually open the vault by clicking the VAULT IS CLOSED button.  This is now causing the vault sign in window to open behind the browser requiring yet another mouse click on the Task Bar icon to bring the sign in window into focus.

Yet another move away from a user-friendly, reliable password manager. 

Sadly, now that I've upgraded one machine to Win10 I am back to having the vault sign in window opening behind Firefox.  

Windows 10 x64 22H2 | Kubuntu 23.04 | Mint Cinnamon 21.1
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I haven't updated to Windows 10 yet, but this annoyance persists in Win 8.1.

Ever since I started using Norton 360/NIS a few years back, the NIS login vault opened on top (in front of the browser) when the browser (Norton) toolbar "Vault is Closed" button is clicked.

Since the patch before last-- can't recall the exact date-- the vault now opens behind the browser.

I'm using FF 39, but this problem occurred after the Norton patch was installed.

Having to click the vault icon on the taskbar, or minimize the browser to access the vault login screen, is only a minor nuisance.  But it's a step backwards, and a needless inconvenience.

FWIW, I attempted a reported solution ("update the Norton toolbar"), but the toolbar has been updated and the problem persists.

Please fix.  Thanks.

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Hello PLC

So this issue started when you were moved to 22.5.2.15 and it has carried over to Krusty in Win 10. That is FF opens up behind the browser and the browser is up to date with FF. Have you tried installing the patch first for the browser and then FF? Have you turned off Fast Startup? Thanks.

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Re: Vault opens behind browser

I don't know what happened but the vault sign in window is working properly again for me now.  That is that the window opens in front of Firefox as designed.

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This problem has returned. 

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its been on and off along with the Lets Get started trying to log on with the vault, then the greyed out disabled auto protect stuff.However the auto protect has been stable for a couple of days. But the other stuff is the same

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Krusty13:

This problem has returned. 

Yup!  

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Hello

Maybe it's because Windows 10 is always updating, I think sometimes without you even knowing it. Just my 2 cents from a non- Win 10 user.

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Good theory Flo, but FWIW, my two Win-7 systems (with Windows auto-update disabled) are doing this again too.  Also, I have the Win-10/Pro version installed (with Windows auto-update set to deferred).

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I also have this issue and I am on 64 bit Win 8.1 Pro. OH, Norton today in a chat said to wait a while as they will release a patch " real soon now".

If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!
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FYI, I'm also running Win 8.1, 64-bit and the problem persists in Firefox 40.0.

I did apply a new Norton patch during a Live Update session this morning, but the login panel still opens behind the browser.

FWIW, I disabled Fast Startup a while back as recommended for another Norton problem-- can't remember what.  Also, I generally rely on Firefox auto-updates and Norton Live Update for updates, patches, etc.; I usually run Live Update manually more than once a day just to make sure I have the latest updates.

I'm open to any straightforward fixes, but I'm just continuing to post comments to verify that the annoyance persists, and that Norton and/or Firefox need to fix what wasn't broke.

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PLC in PA,

Although this is not related to the vault opening behind the browser, it is info I feel may be helpfukl and avoid problems in the future.

It is suggested that you received and Apply the Norton Browser Toolbar Add-on from Norton prior to updating Firefox.  In order to do that you need to adjust Firefox > Tool > Options > Advanced set to Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install.  That permits you to ensure the toolbar add-on is up0graded in Norton prior to upgrade FF.

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This is/was (for me) a fairly recent, and very "inconsistent" thing (and seemingly having to do with v39.0.3) which not only was affecting IDSafe, but other items as well(e.g. the community image upload popup dialog, etc.) ... But again, very inconsistently so.

FWIW, I think I can say that my list of installed FF extensions and plugins is relatively diminutive, as compared to most...

I can also volunteer (at this point) that since installing v40 a short time ago, I've not seen the obscurement problem re-occur...

Hopefully it stays that way!

Cheers!
John

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Hello John

If you are referring to the Warning, that is the result of Firefox now requiring all extensions and add-ons to be signed and verified by Mozilla before they can be enabled.  This is Mozilla's doing and it appears to be a new thing since the Toolbar is not as of now been signed by Mozilla. It has been submitted and Norton and Firefox are in contact about this toolbar..

Thanks.

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Hi Flo,

Nope - I was just relating more in regards to the thread's topic of "things" opening behind "things" (using FF) ...

I'm already aware about the Mozilla Certification delay situation, but thanks!

Kind regards,
John

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Re: Vault opens behind browser

Vault opens behind IE11 for me too on both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 (NIS version 22.5.2.15).

Why are Norton taking so long to fix it? Is the vault window process simply missing a Get Focus instruction (or something equivalent)?

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Perhaps Win10 issues are getting more attention than this toolbar bug?

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I've been wondering, too.   I've installed three patches via Live Update in  recent weeks.  None of them rectified this irritating problem.

FWIW, I acknowledge that this is a minor inconvenience.  But it is an inconvenience, and it's fair to say that users preferred having the vault login open on top of the browser window.

I hope they haven't concluded that it's not "broke" enough to fix, and instead just decided that it's the New Normal.

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theres been some windows updates in the past couple of days or so for win10, this maybe the catch up game like with firefox upgrades and win10, so norton maybe trying to catch up.When they do there ends being another patch or FF update/upgrade, Thats my thought

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viveksu:

Sorry for the issue you are facing.

Thanks for reporting the same.

We are tracking this issue.

@viveksu ,

Any news regarding a fix for this issue?

Thanks,
Dave

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Still have the issue.  Any chance this is going to be fixed?  It's not the end of the world but is annoying.

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Hello NIStrack Employee

We are trying to get an update from Symantec Employee viveksu about this issue.

Thanks.

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It may be fixed!!!

Got a toolbar updated for FF today but it did not change the version 2015.5.2.24 but now my vault pops up in front of FF. This is on 2 of my W10 systems. NIS 22.5.2.15

Jim

UPDATE: NOT FIXED. After a W10 update and a re-boot it's failing again.

I wonder what the toolbar update was for today.

Jim

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