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Norton slowing my internet

So I noticed my internet speed is crawling on all tests. I have GigaBlast service.

I get around 900 normally.

When I uninstall Norton it is fast and normal speeds.

After I install Norton it slows down to less than 100.

I do NOT have the VPN enabled. Side note it won't enable anyway. I don't want to use it.

If I remove the Norton 360 option from my Network Settings (as pictured), the speed goes back up to normal. But Norton keeps telling me I need to re-enable it. 

Help. I love Norton. I don't want to ditch it to get the fast internet I'm paying for.

Thanks in advance.

Don

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Don. My question is why are you running wifi and ethernet connections at the same time on a computer? Conflicts abound in that scenario. Disable one or the other and recheck your situation. 

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Maybe you are unfamiliar with how a Mac works with ethernet and Wi-Fi. You order them in priority so if the ethernet is on top it will use that connection first. Wi-Fi needs to be turned on to allow continuity between programs, handoff, and AirDrop.
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I'm definitely not a MAC user presently, but have owned one over the years. Trying to help nevertheless. Norton itself won't cause your internet speeds to drop through the floor on its own. Network inspection of WiFi and Ethernet simultaneously will, no matter the usage. Just curious are you running the latest Big Sur OS? 

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I did a chat with support and eventually a phone call to fix things. Something is definitely wrong and level two support has to get involved. They did verify Norton was slowing my connection. They believe the VPN is automatically turning on and not letting us disable it. Simply turning off all Norton services causes the speeds to resume to normal levels.
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Thanks for the post back. Interesting info indeed. The VPN won't allow for startup automatically with an OS yet, in your case that appears to be the issue. Did support suggest using the removal tool or have you used this tool already, performed a complete removal, reboot, then re-installation as a possible solution? This tool is different from just using the standard route to remove software.

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I have now used the Mac removal tool twice and reinstalled twice. tier 2 is supposed to take over but their support now sucks in that they will attempt to contact me in 24 to 48 hours. I find that unacceptable. If tier one can’t help me you connect me to tier 2 immediately. Unacceptable.
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Indeed. I had previously asked whether you are running Big Sur and whether you are doing so on an older machine. There are issues with Big Sur itself which may be at play.

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Hi.

Sorry for missing that.

I am on Big Sur with a 2017 iMac.

Don

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Big Sur 11.1 seeded BETA?

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Yeah no betas thanks. It could get worse not better.

Don

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I'm going to send this one up to the Norton Team for an answer about compatibility. Your machine is on the list of compatible devices for BS, yet I believe the new features may be the issue with Norton. Lets allow the team to reply back.

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Thank you. Tier 2 support has failed to reach out to me so far.

Don

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I've a macBookPro with macOS Big Sur 11.1.
Before install Norton 360 8.6, my internet connection had a speed average of 480 Mbps with ethernet connection. With Norton 360 installed the speed average fell to 73 Mbps with ethernet connection I’ve lost the 85% !!!!!   If I try to use the VPN the speed average is 14 Mbps.

But I was very surprised when I checked the speed average with a WiFi connection and Norton 360 installed, the speed average is 200 Mbps. I’ve repeated the same test in another Windows 10 laptop in the same LAN and Norton 360 installed: 450 Mbps.

I hadn’t these issues with macOS Catalina. Where is the problem with Norton 360 for macOS Big Sur?. Someone knows if is possible to disable the Norton 360 firewall leaving enable the rest of the functionalities, such as the antivirus, and protection to malware, spyware, randomware,... ?

Thank you very much for your help.

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Hi @Alvaro F.B. ,

I have sent you a private message requesting additional information. Could you please check your inbox when you get a chance? Thanks. 

-Gayathri

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Mac Mini 2014, running Big Sur 11.1.  Norton 8.6

I'm having the same issue.  I've narrowed it down to Firewall Vulnerability Protection.  With it off, I'm getting 900+ Mb/s down, as measured by Speedtest.  When I turn the Vulnerability Protection on, my download speed drops to ~70 Mb/s.  Able to reproduce this 100% of the time.

I just spent 2 hours with first line tech support, so they could see the issue.  We did a full removal of all things Norton, using a script they provided to remove all files, and then a reinstall, with no change in behavior.

Tech support did this a second time, with screen share, recorded the interactions and then escalated to second level support.

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Thank you for your investigation Gayathri.

I will send you the log.

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Thank you, @Alvaro F.B..

Hi @MPBerzs,

We'll look for the case notes and reach out to you should we require any clarification. Thank you.

-Gayathri

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I just installed macOS big sur 11.1 the other day and Norton 360 caused google chrome and safari to stop working. It also blocked me from sharing files between other computers on my network (including my Windows 10 virtual machine using Parallels desktop), even after allowing connections. So I uninstalled Norton on mac. 

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Running BigSur and not using the VPN.  Having the same issue with Vulnerability Protection.

ISP is Virgin Media in the UK.  Speed is around 200-250 mbps with Vulnerability Protection disabled and around 80-100 mbps when its enabled.

Other firewall settings either individually or in combination work OK, but when Vulnerability Protection is enabled, speed drops by 65%

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Hello,

      I am having the same problem.  If I remove Norton 360 from my iMac (I have Big Sur 11.1 installed), I get the speeds I am paying for (400+ Mbps download).  When I install Norton 360 with network monitoring it drops between 40% to 50%.   It is because of the network monitoring, and this seems to be a very heavy price to pay.   Particularly as I had protection from Norton 360 before this change was made to Norton.  

       When will this get fixed ? 

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I've even uninstalled the VPN portion of Norton with the program App Cleaner and I still have the slowdown.

I did a very long 90 minute support session with Norton Support. It was 100% useless.

Fix this please!!!

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One of MANY topics concerning this issue to include one of mine.

I worked with level 2 support and never got my speed back.  A promised call-back at a specific time (why can't the call be identified as Norton instead of a nondescript 1.800 number?) never came after numerous attempts to work this issue.

A 100mbps+ connection to 15mbps or less with VPN is unacceptable and with hours spent with tech support I unsubscribed.

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I have the same problem as the original issue.  On a wired connection NO VPN I drop from 900Mbps down to 160Mbps.  On Safari the upload is impacted more and on FireFox the download is impacted more.  I had the worst experiences with support as well.  If you disable Vulnerability scanning the speed returns to 900Mbps both directions.  If you switch ti wireless its about 360Mbps both directions.  I'm back on wired connection now and disabling the Vulnerability scanning or turning off the content filter restore the speed.  I don't know why no one will help with this issue.  If you look at the debug logs, like Norton should you see the content filter is full of  bugs....  See below.

[ 1261.026322]: cfil_update_data_offsets:4401 cfil_data_service_ctl_q() error -2
[ 1261.054409]: cfil_data_service_ctl_q:3991 cfil_service_pending_queue() error -2
[ 1261.054429]: cfil_update_data_offsets:4401 cfil_data_service_ctl_q() error -2
[ 1261.088896]: cfil_data_service_ctl_q:3991 cfil_service_pending_queue() error -2
[ 1261.088902]: cfil_update_data_offsets:4401 cfil_data_service_ctl_q() error -2
[ 1261.098714]: cfil_data_service_ctl_q:3991 cfil_service_pending_queue() error -2
[ 1261.098719]: cfil_update_data_offsets:4401 cfil_data_service_ctl_q() error -2
[ 1261.099276]: cfil_data_service_ctl_q:3991 cfil_service_pending_queue() error -2
[ 1261.099280]: cfil_update_data_offsets:4401 cfil_data_service_ctl_q() error -2
[ 1261.099545]: cfil_data_service_ctl_q:3991 cfil_service_pending_queue() error -2
[ 1261.099550]: cfil_update_data_offsets:4401 cfil_data_service_ctl_q() error -2
[ 1261.099802]: cfil_data_service_ctl_q:3991 cfil_service_pending_queue() error -2
[ 1261.099818]: cfil_update_data_offsets:4401 cfil_data_service_ctl_q() error -2
 

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I've the same problem too. MacBook Pro Late 2017 (3,5 GHz-Dual Core): With the activated network service "Norton 360" the connection slowed down from 260 to 150 MBit (and my CPU is crying at this moment).
Without disabled service the speed is perfect again, but Norton is crying permanently. 

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Same issue here.  2017 Macbook Pro running Big Sur.  Verizon Fios with gigabit internet.  I'm only wired and wireless is disabled. The issue is definitely Vulnerability protection under the firewall as I tested all others turned off.  With Vulnerability protection OFF speeds are 794 down and 765 up.  With Vulnerability protection ON speeds are 335 down and 242 up.  

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You just have to move on, Norton will not fix this issue.  I have been on many phone calls and emails with all levels of support all they do is say don't use the VPN.  When I tell them I'm not on a VPN they collect some logs and you never here from them.  I have tested a few competitors and they all work its just Norton that has the problem.  I called and got a refund and I suggest you do the same if you want your speed back.

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The story is often repeated here.

Join the club, request a refund and move on.  There are plenty of alternatives.

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Have any of you been offered the latest update to version 8.6.2? Performing a manual live update will NOT fetch the update, it will be sent in a phased manner. Release note are posted at the link below. 

https://community.norton.com/en/blogs/product-update-announcements/norto...

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The link takes one to the top of all announcements.  The announcement for 8.6.2 is about halfway down the page.

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Unfortunately that update is for windows only and I am on a Mac
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This link is NOT for Windows folks. Its also the release announcement for Norton Security for Mac 8.6.2. 

SA

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I too have this issues and it is related to Vulnerability Protection. However, I only see with Chrome ( not Safari ). My download speed was about a tenth of what I was getting ( 500mbps to 50mbps . I have the latest / clean versions of Chrome installed and have gone through a number of preference setting changes as well as beta access flag changes with no impact. Currently running with Vulnerability Protection off. 

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Is there anyone with version 8.6.2 installed that no longer has the reference problem ?

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I just upgraded my 2017 retina 5k iMac to Big Sur and am experiencing the exact same problem...I'm connected via ethernet and up until now Norton 360 hasn't had any impact on my network connection.  Once I upgraded to Big Sur, a new service appeared in the network settings named "Norton 360".  When I run speed test via Ookla, the speed is reduced by 75% unless I disable vulnerability protection and then it works fine.  I haven't received the 8.6.2 upgrade, currently operating with 8.6.1 (waiting for the upgrade).  Any words are appreciated! 

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I finally got the 8.6.2 update and my internet speeds are normal.  However, I was not experiencing this issue on 8.6.1 either, so not sure what the problem is for some who are seeing this slowdown.

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I have 8.6.1.

How do I get 8.6.2.?

Craig

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I uninstalled and re-installed.  Took a couple times, but finally picked up the new version on the last install on my MacBook Pro.  My Mac mini got the update automatically via live update this past Saturday all on its own.  They may be pushing this out faster than they did the 8.6.1 update.  That one took forever to get.  

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Sounds like a lot of work.

Craig

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I installed 8.6.2.

I still have the issue.

Ugh :(

Craig

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I just installed the update and still have the internet slowdown issue.  This only started with when I upgraded to BigSur, was not an issue on any previous version.  Norton I hope you address this quickly!

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Don't bet on it.

I gave up.

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Something changed dramatically with Vulnerability protection.  I can turn it off temporarily, but I cannot access the Norton console unless I turn it back on.  Is there a way to permanently disable Vulnerability protection?

I am on Catalina on a late 2012 iMac with 1G Internet hard wired.  Ookla was giving me 900mbps up and down prior to a recent Norton Update. With vulnerability protection on, Ookla gives me about 118mbps.  That is a dramatic difference. After the update, I noted a Norton360 network device that was not there before the update, so something has changed significantly with how they do vulnerability protection.  I am running Nortion 360 8.6.2.  The problem goes away when I turn off Vulnerability Protection - my speeds return to normal.  However, after a reboot, I am prompted to Fix Now, and it turns vulnerability protection back on.  This is a recurring theme for Norton.  I cannot disable problematic features because the prompts force me to remediate before I can even get to the Norton Console.  Add to that the constant badgering about adding browser extensions to manage my web surfing and this product is becoming down right annoying.  

I also have a 2017 MacBook Air with Big Sur.  When the update went on there, it completely disconnected from the Internet and WiFi was having trouble starting and holding a connection.  I found some connection blocking rules in the connection blocking feature turned on that I had to eliminate to get it working.  On WiFi, I get about 130mbps with Vulnerability protection on and off.  Speedtest is not as markedly impacted as it is on the iMac.  This may very well be a function of processor capacity (newer machine) - similar to a VPN the faster the connection, the harder it is for the device to keep up.  WiFi speeds seem to have little impact.   

I can understand that some features are going to cause a performance hit.  However, there should be better options to turn off and keep off those features if needed.  I'm tired of the constant badgering I get from Norton.  I don't understand how Norton was doing vulnerability protection prior to the update and how they are doing it now.  Why have they chosen a VPN style network connection monitor to implement this?

I have been a Norton customer for the last 10 years and have recommended it to many friends and family over time.  I am actively researching alternatives to Norton and LifeLock. 

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I am experiencing the same, with regard to Vulnerability Protection.  I have re-installed Norton at least 3 times based on suggestions from agents on their Facebook page. 

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I'm not in the mood to continue this re-installing effort, until Norton has very specifically fixed the issue.  I too have recommended Norton to several colleagues, and am certainly disappointed with this current speed issue.

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I am on catalina and Norton 360 8.6.2 and as soon as I went to this release it forced me to enable the network monitoring!  After that my internet speed went from 900+mbps to only 80 to 100 mbps.  Very very disappointing! and am probably going to move to something else if this is not fixed.

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I am experiencing more that a 350 Mbps reduction in download speed when Norton's Vulnerability Protection is active.  This means my speeds are significantly reduced, from 682 to 322.  This is indeed unacceptable.

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Any updates from Norton on this? They said they were going to look into it back in December. Does it really take 3 months to resolve this obviously pervasive issue.

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I have a Gigabit connection to the Internet. I have both Windows 10 20H2 (5 workstations), IPAD 11 and macOS 10.15.7 (1 workstation) in my network. I use Norton Security 8.6.2 on all devices. After last update I see slow internet connection on my mac. Internet speed is degraded from 1GB to 100 Mbit download. When disabling Vulnerability scanning internet speed is back to 1Gbit. I can see from the thread that others have the same problem on their mac systems. Please fix this ASAP. On the Windows 10 devices I have no issues with Norton. 

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This is exactly what I see too.

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Hi guys !

I have been facing the same issue, not at such a big scale, but still.
Instead of getting 950 Mbps I was only getting ~400Mbps (never more)

I found those two threads : https://community.norton.com/en/forums/debit-reduit-de-ma-connexion-fibr... <- this guy has got the same problem

https://community.norton.com/en/comment/8091781#comment-8091781 <- THIS GUY has got the ANSWER

I have been searching some other threads like this one, I can see some people talking about the VPN... Seriously do they have a little bit of knowledge ? The answer is here.

Anyway I hope this will be useful for you guys ;)

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