another reinstall ( getting annoyed) did the remove and reinstall tool, go thru the update process , got a few need to restarts no probem
get to what i guess was the last or maybe before it ( not sure seemed same one maybe) get error 8504,104 when i restarted ( as it requested)
also it ran a auto fix and got stuck on conflicting program for what seemed forever over 10 minutes later i just canceled it.
i do not have any other security program and windows defender is and has been turned off
also noticed the safe webcam and vpn are missing
live update all current
run auto fix said need to restart ( again)
not sure why i am having such problems