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Kudos0

How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

I am curious how much the Core Router will decrease my throughput?  I currently run speed tests that show 120mbps downstream and 11mbps upstream.  What might I expect to see with the Core Router inline?

I have tried other security appliances and found that they can reduce my speed test figures by 50% or even as much as 66% for downloads.

TANSTAAFL

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Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

What other security appliances did you try? Did they have encryption or VPN included? That would have slowed them down somewhat.

A router in itself should not affect your download speeds, unless you have a Gb internet connection. Most routers now have Gb ports so much bandwidth available than your 120Mbps connection can use.

The Core router is aimed at home users, and does not have VPN  or encryption, so I would imagine it should not noticeably affect your download speeds.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

It's not being advertised as "just a router".  It's being advertised as a security appliance.  The additional load of processing and filtering advertised (beyond the "normal" router functions) will be done internal to the router.  These processes can not happen instantaneously.  I haven't been able to dig up much in the way of details on this device, but there must be some penalty for the extra processing of the inbound packets, and (I assume) the outbound ones as well.  If anyone, who has actual technical knowledge of this router, would like to chime in your comments would be welcome.

I am not an expert in these matters by any means.  I am just saying that in my past experience with add-on security appliances, whose functions this Core Router seems to emulate, they have always resulted in a significant speed penalty.

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

Can you tell us what other security devices you tried in the past that showed that much throughput reduction?

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

Hi folks!

I just finished trying out the BitDefender Box. My bandwidth upstream of the Box was 170mbps down. Downstream of the Box I was getting 16mbps. It's going back. My ASA 5505 gets about 50mbps but that's without an IPS module. The Core documentation mentions LAN speeds. For most of us, that's not an issue. The issue is WAN bandwidth and I can't find ANYTHING about the Core's thoughput with it's IPS. 

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

Processor, storage, memory

  • Qualcomm 1.7-GHz Dual Core

  • 1 GB DDR3

  • 4 GB NAND Flash

Wireless connectivity

  • Simultaneous dual-band 2.4-GHz & 5-GHz WiFi radios

  • AC2600 (800 Mbps @ 2.4-GHz + 1733 Mbps @ 5GHz)

  • 4x4 MU-MIMO, IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac

  • Bluetooth Smart (BLE) Ready

Security and networking

  • DPI, IDS, IPS, WPA2, DHCP, NAT, UPnP

  • Automatic device discovery

Wired connectivity

  • 1 x Gigabit WAN port (cable or DSL modem)

  • 3 x Gigabit LAN ports (networked devices)

  • 2 x USB 3.0 ports (printer & storage devices)

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

Thanks for quoting the published product specs.  However, this does not answer the question posed.

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

The Processor in the BitDefender  box is 400 Mhz MIP24K router in a chip AR9331.

Base on DMIPS rating alone,  the aggregate raw processing power dual processors in the  Core will be 16-20x faster.

That's not the whole story of course. We will have to see what throughput actually is with DPI enabled

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

What is the official ship date for the Core ????

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

It's likely  that DPI, not IPS, will put the biggest load on the Core

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

What is the official ship date for the Core ????

Still no official date. Amazon used to have a July date listed, now it shows August????

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

When it does release to the public, the other question everyone needs to ask is this:

Do you want a device that is going to demand a subscription price of $120 annually to function?  I found that Easter Egg in the FAQS for this device.  The first year is provided at no additional cost.  The next year ... Surprise!

IOT just became more expensive ...

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

The subscription information is not exactly hidden in the FAQs.

And you have to factor in the fact that you get the Norton Core Security Plus software, (basically the Norton Security Premium product but for 20 devices), included in that annual fee.  Currently on Norton's web site the 10 user Premium is on sale for $49.99 for the year. Regular price listed as $109.99. So you are getting up to twice the number of devices, plus the Core functionality for the $120.

The only downside is that you have to stick with Norton for your AV solution or you will lose some functionality of the Core system.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

Then I guess I will have to run out and buy 12 more devices to get full value.

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

Since the software license can be loaded on twenty devices, and all devices connected to the Core are protected, it is a good value.

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

JamesP:

Since the software license can be loaded on twenty devices, and all devices connected to the Core are protected, it is a good value.

I wonder if it can be loaded licitly on devices not using the Core? 

Hugh
Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

Perhaps (and only) if you actually have 20 devices to load the software on to.  Personally, I only have 4 devices that this software can be loaded on to.  Two of those are virtual Windows machines that (theoretically) are already protected by the AV software on my iMac.  My iPad's and iPhone do not benefit from Symantec software.

Increasing the number of "devices covered" under a license is a somewhat clever way to try and convince us we are getting more value for the money spent.  Perhaps that extra set of Gxxxsu Steak Knives I get, when I buy 4 at the regular price, really are "free"!

Where the real value may lie, and I am no expert in these matters (I take a lot on faith), is IOT device protection via the Core Router.  We have all heard that many Internet-connected devices, including "smart" TV's and many existing routers supposedly protecting them are vulnerable to compromise.   However, if my existing router, when properly configured, will protect IOT devices from external tampering then I am wasting my money.  I can purchase Norton Security Deluxe (5 devices) for $39.99.

Just saying ...

I wonder what would be lost if the subscription for the Core Router is not renewed?  Will the Core Router become a $280 paperweight?  Will it still provide "basic" router functions -- define those how you like -- and security?  Will the paid router security updates be separate from no-cost firmware updates (bug fixes), or are they to be rolled into a single update requiring the subscription?  Questions and more questions.

I hope many of these will be answered when units are acquired by independent labs capable of doing meaningful testing -- able to kick the tires and look under the hood, so to speak.  Not just some meaningless magazine reviews that quote publicly available specs, but mostly ooh-and-aah over the color and shape of this router like it's some "objet d'art".

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

Rick

Always a good idea to let someone else take the risks .... if you have a choice.

But nobody's forcing anyone to buy the Core device; if it turns out to be a dam' good device jump on the bandwagon then.

Hugh
Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

Oh no Hugh ... I couldn't resist taking a look at this one myself.  I did pre-order.  I have this "thing" about new gadgets - it's a curse.  That doesn't mean I turn a blind eye to the marketing tactics, or that I won't occasionally <grin> take a contrarian viewpoint.

I would still like to see, first hand, what impact on throughput this device will have.  If it is excessive (IMO) I can always send it back.  I am already familiar with Symantec security software.

Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

I wonder if it can be loaded licitly on devices not using the Core? 

Hugh

No reason it could not be done. It does not require the Core to operate, as seen by users who have pre ordered, and can use the software now. After all, it is just NSP for 20 devices.

Things happen. Export/Backup your Norton Password Manager data.
Kudos0

Re: How much will the Core Router reduce my throughput?

Thanks Peter for confirming that's likely.

Since I imagine Norton still allows the license to be used by members of the family (or is it "household"?) then users may find that the number of devices, not restricted to Windows, can mount up quickly.

Hugh

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