I just purchased a Lenovo Y580 laptop with hybrid drive setup. This laptop comes with a mSATA 32GB SSD and a very slow 5400rpm 1tb HDD. My goal is to replace the HDD with a Samsung 830 256GB SSD(I brought the laptop kit with SATA to USB cable included). While the Norton cloning was quick and easy, upon booting up with the Samsung SSD the laptop flashed a blue screen when attempting to start Windows and restarts itself. As I installed the original HDD back in and it function as normal again. Here is a screenshot of the current disk management with the Samsung SSD connected via SATA/USB cable. I followed included instruction by the words but I assume I must have missed a step, since Norton Ghost works great in my other experiences. Any insight and pointers toward how to get this cloning working would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
One question. Did Win7 start to load before you saw the blue screen and then the restart? Did you see the four glowing squares for a few seconds before the BSOD?
Lenovo hasn't made it easy. Your booting files are in the System partition, your Windows files are in the C: drive and one page file is in the D: drive.
Can you create a One Time Backup of the System partition and another of the C: drive. Write both images to the G: drive. Let us know when you have the images. Make sure you select Verify.
Re: Cloning a HDD/SSD hybrid drive with Norton Ghost 15.0 [ Edited ]
08-22-201201:20 AM- edited 08-22-201201:22 AM
I can now see your very helpful screenshop.
Lenovo hasn't made it easy. Your booting files are in the System partition, your Windows files are in the C: drive and one page file is in the D: drive.
Can you create a One Time Backup of the System partition and another of the C: drive. Write both images to the G: drive. Let us know when you have the images. Make sure you select Verify.
Hello Brian:
Here is a screenshot of when I tried to do a one time back up of the drive. But now the situation is a lot worse:
About 3 minute into the backup the computer freezes. Once it came back ,Norton Ghost indicated the backup operation has failed, and then I realize majority of contents in the computer are deleted! I can see most of the system folders are now empty. Upon restarting the computer although I can still log in to Windows, all I get is a black screen and a small window notifying me "Windows Explorer Fails To Start". Everything happened so fast I couldn't even grab a screenshot as it's just like a suicide mode.
I don't think is a virus because this particular laptop have less than 10 hours under its belt. and it has active/current anti-virus program. The only time it surfed the internet was reaching this forum and nothing else(because I wanted to complete the HDD clone and SSD swap before I really start to use this computer)
I just purchased a Lenovo Y580 laptop with hybrid drive setup. This laptop comes with a mSATA 32GB SSD and a very slow 5400rpm 1tb HDD. My goal is to replace the HDD with a Samsung 830 256GB SSD(I brought the laptop kit with SATA to USB cable included). While the Norton cloning was quick and easy, upon booting up with the Samsung SSD the laptop flashed a blue screen when attempting to start Windows and restarts itself. As I installed the original HDD back in and it function as normal again. Here is a screenshot of the current disk management with the Samsung SSD connected via SATA/USB cable. I followed included instruction by the words but I assume I must have missed a step, since Norton Ghost works great in my other experiences. Any insight and pointers toward how to get this cloning working would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
The system folder was empty only after the Ghost's One Time Back Up failed. All interaction with Norton Ghost was with the HDD , since with the SSD I couldn't log into Windows.
Now I restored the computer back to it's brand new state and it's working again. I just reinstalled Norton Ghost 15 as well. Is there another route that I can take to 100% mirror/clone the HDD to SSD?
Like Brian, I also prefer doing an image\restore rather than a copy drive, I especially don't like doing copy drives over USB because it can lead to problems because USB can't be depended upon to give the correct drive translation.
It's not a direct BIOS connection like SATA, it's software rather than hardware driven.
I'm curious about something,
You say you also have a 32GB internal SSD, does that work?
I assume it is what shows in disk management as HD1 but it does not appear to be working.
Do you think restoring an image will be able to do that Brian?
Dave, it worked with Copy Drive so it's worth a try. I thought Copy Drive would complain if there were sectors beyound 238 GB. Otherwise the C: drive will need to be shrunk.
emacemacii,
That is terrifying. I can't recall anyone experiencing that issue. It's lucky you had a Lenovo backup. While we consider how to approach this, what is in the D: drive and the OEM partition. One of them must contain the Lenovo image backup, so which one and what is in the other?
Don't quote me on this, but I would guess that the recovery images are in the Hidden OEM partition and the tools to start the recovery are in the "System_Drv". You'll notice that it's 200MB instead of the 100MB for a SRP partition.
I'm pretty sure that is one of Microsofts reccomended ways for OEM's to set it up.
In the screenshot the OP has a note on the D drive about it appearing to be the mSATA but I would have to disagree and say the internal SSD is Disk1 that shows up as Unknown Not Initialized.
(But please don't try to initilize or access it on my account).
Sorry for jumping in here, but i have EXACTLY the same problem.
New sony vaio out of the box today (bought with 320gb 5400rpm - cheap), trying to replace with Samsung SSD 830 (256gb).
Copying to it through supplied USB-Sata cable with Norton Ghost 15.
I noticed that when I copied the drive across that only 32gb of 49gb (total used space on original HDD according to ghost) was copied across, but I was aware before I copied that Ghost pointed out to me that I needed more space to copy the drive across - I presume this is the problem - trying to squish 276gb into 239gb with some data in that extra 40gb or so.
I've tried to find a defrag image to check but total newbie to Win7, had vista for past 5 years.
I'm guessing I just need to move everything to the "front" of the HDD so it fits on the SSD?
While I'm here, and this may be of use to you gurus - I only have a C:\ drive to copy from, there are no recovery/OEM partitions listed in copy drive in Ghost. (Doesn't fit Case 1 or Case 2 in the manual which is why I'm being cautious here)
Just a comment on the original Copy Drive in Message #1. The booting files weren't copied to the Samsung so we should have expected "BOOTMGR is missing". But instead there was a BSOD so something is very strange. Maybe the C: drive did need to be shrunk.
I only have a C:\ drive to copy from, there are no recovery/OEM partitions listed in copy drive in Ghost.
Robert,
Ghost can be misleading. You have 3 hidden partitions on your HD. One of which is an EFI System Partition and that is incompatible with Ghost 15. I haven't worked with EFI partitions but if you want to use Ghost then EFI has to be turned off in the BIOS. But get information from someone who knows the advantages/disadvantages of EFI.
Do you mind elaborate a tad on how to do a image/restore?
To be honest I don't really know how the mSATA 32gb SSD work. I know this laptop can boot from fully shutted down state to ready to use in Windows desktop within about 10~13seconds. That the only hint(un-scientific at best)that I have. I also agree with Dave that my indication of the mSATA SSD on the first photo could be wrong.