Cloning Procedure Advice Please

Change your view setting so you can see the extentions.

 

In windows XP go to My Computer> Tools> Folder Options

Click the tab that says "view"

Put a dot in "Show hidden files and folders"

Uncheck the boxes "Hide extentions for known file types"

and "Hide protected operating system files"

 

Now you will be able to see the complete names on your flash drive.

 

Rename the Ghost iso to: Ghost15.iso  (no spaces)

Change the line in menu.lst back to:  map (hd0,0)/Ghost15.iso (hd32)

That has one space after map, one space after .iso  no spaces in Ghost15.iso

 

Next verify you still have the DOS files on the flash drive, I can't see them in your screenshot.

If they are missing, add IO.sys, msdos.sys, command.com mouse.com, and the autoexec.bat file you made.

The autoexec.bat file should have one line on it that says:  mouse.com

 

Dave

 

 

Dave,

 

You're a star,

I can expand the file extensions ok but I never thought to do it, however when I did expand the files Ghost15.iso looked like this "Ghost15.iso.iso.iso".

I got the other files off my 98SE floppy but I couldn't find Mouse.com to put that on the flash drive, see picCapture 7 .JPG

Anyway my friend it boots up into Ghost 15 and it will boot to DOS but I can't get the A:\ > prompt.

Any ideas on that one, I will send you a PM when I have rebooted and tried it again to make sure.

 

Deric 

 

 

If you go to that other post and follow the link, click where it says "Use the Windows 98 system files availible here"

http://community.norton.com/t5/Other-Norton-Products/norton-ghost-15/m-p/358724#M30032

 

mouse.com is included in that download.

 

Since the flash drive is not a floppy disk, your not going to get an A> prompt.  It's going to behave like a hard drive and start as a C> prompt.

All the other dive letters get temporarily pushed back one letter, so instead of formatting C you will format D.

Usually it's the next drive letter, but you have to be carefull and check the drive first to make sure, either by it's size or do the "dir" command and look at the files and folders to make sure it's the right drive.  The same thing happens when using a floppy disk on a system with cd-roms, the hard drive letters may be different in DOS so you need to make sure you have the right drive.

 

If your using Fdisk, one of the menu options is to change the current drive, select the next drive and double check it by looking at the drive name.

 

Dave

 

 


DStain wrote:

it will boot to DOS but I can't get the A:\ > prompt.


 

Deric,

 

What prompt do you get?

I assumed it was C because thats what mine does.

 

Brian, would you by chance know how to boot a floppy.img as A?

I never tried because I got way too much dos stuff to fit in a 2.8MB floppy image.

 

Dave

 

Edit- Could it be as simple as map (fd1) or whatever grub uses as a floppy?

I left my laptop and flash drive at home today :(

 


DaveH wrote:

I assumed it was C because thats what mine does.

 


 

Dave, we must be using different methods as my grub DOS is in an ISO and it boots as A:\>

If you have a DOS flash drive with the DOS files in the root it will boot as C:\>

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "boot a floppy.img as A". I can make an ISO or a CD from a floppy.img.The ISO is usable in grub4DOS.

 

Regarding fitting lots of files on a DOS CD. You can have your 1.44 MB boot file and up to 700 MB in the data area using MSCDEX. Is this what you do?

Brian,

That's the point I don't get a prompt, just press any key to continue, I will boot it again when I have put the mouse.com on the flash drive and make a note of the full message, back in a mo.

 

Deric

Deric, do you have a floppy that boots to DOS? Win98? Win98 SE is the best.

Brian,

Very slow tonight to get back on the forum.

Yes I have , how many do you want?

The message I get when I boot to dos from the blue screen is:-

Bad command or file name.

Path not found - :\command.com.

File not found - extract.exe.

File not found - readme.txt.

Please insert Windows 98 Startup disk 2

Press any key to continue - - -.

flashing - sign.

I did a cold test backup of all 4 drives earlier in just over 9minutes.

 

Deric  

 

Deric, maybe I do it differently from Dave. But first, the graphic you posted in Message #62, is that your flash drive? It should boot to a grub menu. Do you try to load DOS from there?

 

If you would like to try my method, download

 

IMGFLPYD

MKBISO

 

from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads-free-software.htm

 

Put both exe files in a folder. Add this batch file to the same folder.

 

 

REM utility to automate ISO creation 
echo.
@ECHO OFF
COLOR 0A
CLS
echo STARTING CREATE ISO FROM A FLOPPY
echo.
echo insert BOOTABLE floppy disc with all desired files
echo.
pause
if exist CD.ISO (DEL CD.ISO)
if exist FLOPPY.IMG (DEL FLOPPY.IMG)
set img=FLOPPY.IMG
set iso=CD.ISO
IMGFLPYD.EXE A: %img%
MKBISO.EXE %iso% %img%

EXIT

 

 

Run the batch file and you will “convert” your Win98 SE floppy to an ISO (in the same folder). Rename the ISO to msDOS.iso. Put the ISO on your flash drive and add this to your menu.lst

 

title MS-DOS from Win98SE boot disk
map --mem (hd0,0)/msDOS.iso (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)
boot

 

 

Does it work?

 

 

 

Brian,

 

Yes that is my flash drive and yes I can boot into dos from the blue menu screen (Grub) and I get what I explained in my last post.

I have downloaded both files and had to use Word to copy and paste the batch file into the folder.

Both files are zip files and I take it I have to unzip them into another folder along with the batch file.

How do I run the batch file and I have a Win 98SE floppy ready, but it is late now so if you could spell it out so that I can understand what to do I will give it a go tomorrow.

Thanks for your help Mate - see you tomorrow. This exercise is proving a bit prickly aint it.

 

Deric

Deric,

 

Use a New Folder. You will have 3 files in the folder. The two exe files (I forgot you would download a zip) and the batch file.

 

To create the batch file, create a New Text Document and copy/paste my code into the text document. Save. Then rename the file to iso.bat and accept the warning about the name change. (it will no longer be a .txt file) Double click iso.bat and follow the instructions.


DStain wrote:

Brian,

Very slow tonight to get back on the forum.

Yes I have , how many do you want?

The message I get when I boot to dos from the blue screen is:-

Bad command or file name.

Path not found - :\command.com.

File not found - extract.exe.

File not found - readme.txt.

Please insert Windows 98 Startup disk 2

Press any key to continue - - -.

flashing - sign.

I did a cold test backup of all 4 drives earlier in just over 9minutes.

 

Deric  

 


You added the original autoexec.bat file.

I don't want to confuse you but when your done building the DOS ISO with Brian, all we need to do is open the autoexec.bat file in notepad and replace everything in there with just one line:

mouse.com

Dave,

You're a Star ++,

 

Sorry Brian, I took the easy option and followed Dave, dead simple for me and it worked, I can live with the C:\> prompt.

I can open Fdisk and Format which is what I work with on the floppy, do a cold image backup with G15 and all on the one stick, brilliant.,it was well worth persevering with.

 

All I am lacking now is the Ghost 12 iso, is there any way of using my Ghost 12 installation disk to put it on the flash drive?

 

This has been one hell of a learning curve for me, I am deeply in debt to both of you.

Next I am going to give Brian's Dos.iso a go and see if I can complete that exercise, don't hold your breath though 'cos I can guarantee I will have to get back to Brian for further instructions.

 

Deric

Brian,

 

I managed to create the msDOS.iso ok and put it on the flash drive but when I booted with it and selectin the option Boot to MS DOS or words to that effect I got this error :- ERROR 13: Invalid or Unsupported executable format.

The process to create was easier than I thought, that's something else I have learnt to do, it will take a couple of weeks to write this up in my folder for future reference. see pic of flash drive.

 

DericCapture 8.JPG

Deric,

 

I'm glad you got it working. Dave's method.

 

I've no idea why the ISO failed. Can you burn the ISO to a CD and see if it boots to Win98 DOS?

Brian,

 

The floppy I used to take the files off is the one I use on my main machine quite often so I don't think it is anything to do with that, leave it with me and I will see what I can do.

 

Deric

Yes, I'd be interested to know if the CD created from that ISO is OK. I use ImgBurn to burn ISOs.

Brian,

I just tried Nero Premium 7 and I tried to burn it to CD twice and failed, I don't normally have trouble burning to cd. see pic.of error.

 

DericCapture 9.JPG

Brian,

Tried again and it burnt it but wouldn't boot see pic of results.

 

Deric.Capture 10.JPG