Ghost.exe and external USB-Firewire Drives

Deric-

Here is another firewire driver you can test.

Go to this page here and look under "METHOD 3 - The datoptic System"

http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm

 

Download the file "dat.exe"

Run that file with a blank floppy disk in the drive and it will make a boot disk.

copy mouse.com onto the floppy when it's done.

 

Boot your system with it and at the menu, arrow down to the firewire option.

When everything loads, type: mouse

 

Remove the floppy disk and insert disk #2 from the set you just made (the one with ghost on it)

type: ghost\ghost.exe

 

Ghost should load, go to: Local>Check>image file

And see if your firewire drives are listed and you can browse them

 

Dave

 


DaveH wrote:

 

Is it 26 because there are only 26 letters in the alphabet?


 

26 is just a coincidence. Most aren't in the partition table so don't have a drive letter. I can have 200 primary partitions.

 

Most of my partitions are OS partitions. It is a big multi-boot.

That is a coincidence, although I imagine even if they were not all primaries windows would have a problem with that many.

I think windows is limited with C through Z and I don't know what happens after that.  I don't think they start over as CC or anything.  I think you might have to switch to Chineese Windows or something to get more availible letters.

 

When I was in the XP beta I had a multiboot going on my test system and kept installing all the new builds as seperate installs.  I also had a couple versions of windows 98, ME, and 2000.  I was using boot magic to switch the primary partitions as well as the XP boot loader.

I think I had about 13 operating systems going before the whole thing went south.  I started trying to boot 98 and ME would start and then the whole thing fell apart like a house of cards.

 

But I was trying to use a couple different boot loaders at the same time and didn't bother to backup anything.

Dave

 

Dave, I only discovered this recently. As you know the USB flash drive is seen as HD0 in grub4DOS. I wanted to access the partitions on my internal HD0 without making changes in my batch files to reference HD1. This works...

 

title MORE tbosdt HD0 (internal)
map (hd1) (hd0)
map (hd0) (hd1)
map --mem (hd0,0)/more.iso (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)
boot

When I was trying to change the flash drive from C to A  I mapped it in one direction and ended up with the flash drive having 2 letters.

 

But the way you have them mapped in both directions looks almost like a "merge" of 2 disks into one.

Kind of like the opposite of RAID, or a Grub version of joining 2 disks together.

 

I'm interested in trying that but I would be carefull writing to the drive, who knows where it would end up.

Dave

 

Dave,

 

I have being trying for a number of times to get the floppy to work on my main machine after downloading DAT.exe and copying it onto the floppy disk along with mouse.com.

It will boot into the menu, I can select option 2 (1394) and after a couple of lines show up on the screen it freezes.

 

The same disk will boot ok on another machine on the network, but I get the following message

Error  Target 1394 Device Not Found and

ASPI   Manager Not Found.

I can follow the boot sequence through and open Ghost.exe but of course it can't see my firewire drive directly connected to the network machine. 

As a precaution I did try the firewire drive on the machine to make sure it worked ok before I booted up with the floppy.

 

As far as my main machine is concerned it seems that the motherboard doesn't support a floppy made with DAT.exe so that is a couple of things I find at fault with my new motherboard.

See pic of contents of floppy,

 

Deric

Capture 3.JPG

Deric

Try using the ghost boot disk wizzard again.

This time under USB select "No USB Support"

Then select "Firewire Support" and "Assign a DOS drive letter"

 

Use the same floppy you tried with Dat.exe and let the boot disk wizzard do a quick format on it.

You only need to make the first disk and then cancell it.  The second disk will be the same as Disk #2 on the last set you made.

 

Try that and see if it works for just firewire.

Dave

Dave,

 

Tried it and still can't see the firewire drive, I have tried both MS-DOS and PC-DOS with no luck.

I did also select the "No USB Support" option and switched on the USB drive and it detected that.

In addition I swapped my Firewire connection for a USB connection and the drive was detected proving that the drive is ok.

I suppose I can stick the usb driver on the flash drive and forget the firewire but that isn't proving anything is it?

The firewire connection should work and I think I have tried all ways to see if the drive can be detected and failed.

Are there any other firewire drivers that we can try?

 

Deric

Dave,

 

The good news is that the USB driver works ok on the flash drive and Ghost.exe can "see" my external USB drives, which it never has done before now and that has got to be a big plus for me.

 

The Firewire driver though is still causing a problem and unless you can find a firewire driver that will work I am not too bothered about it, because I can use the alternative mini USB port on the Firewire drive.

 

Many thanks for all your help mate but I shouldn't worry about it, treat it as the one that got away.

 

Deric

I'll still keep looking.

 

Meanwhile, here is something you can try if you want.

It's a small version of Linux called Puppy. 

 

Make a folder on your flash drive called "puppy"  put these files in it:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-4.3.1/inside-iso/

 

You don't need the text file, md5sums.txt, just the other 3.

 

Add this to your menu.lst file:

 

 title Puppy Linux
 find --set-root /puppy/pup-431.sfs
 kernel /puppy/vmlinuz
 initrd /puppy/initrd.gz

 

 

Boot it up and see what you think, unlike windows everything works with a single click instead of a double click.

On the bottom left it shows all the drives, see if it can access your USB and Firewire drives.

If it can, you have an option to at least be able to copy files back and forth outside of windows.

 

It comes with a wide range of drivers and you should be able to get online as well.

 

Dave

Dave,

I had an idea that you wouldn't give up, it keeps niggling at you till it's sorted.

 

There was an empty folder on the flash drive called "puppy" must have been put there by MultiBootISOs V1.4.4.exe when I created this smaller flash drive.

Downloaded and installed the Linux files and it has listed all my drives including the firewire drive and I can access them all, I need time to explore "puppy" to see how I can utilise it effectively.

 

I had a look on my Ghost 12 installation disk but I can't see a firewire driver, G12 and G15 has no problem seeing the firewire drive because I backup with both programmes to both types of drives.

 

Deric

I like Puppy Linux because it's not too big and it lets you create a "save" file to hold all the settings.

If you make a save file, make sure you make it on the flash drive.  I use an unencrypted 128MB file.

 

I can get online either plugged into my router or through wifi and it saves all these settings.  I even added an updated firefox package that has firefox and flash player.

 

It's really nice to have a operating system "to go" that you can use on different systems.

 

I also have a version of Ubuntu Linux, that one is easier to use for someone new to Linux.  It's a lot more similar to Windows.

The downside is that it's larger at around 700MB and doesn't have a save file.

But it's worth trying if you have the space.

 

I also been meaning to try to make you a windows XP based PE disk,  that might be worh a try as well.  The ones I been making have some usefull free tools and programs on it and I find it really helpful in fixing systems and using it as another

"operating system to go".

 

Dave

 

 

Dave,

 

I have to admit that "puppy" looks interesting and I will spend a bit of time exploring it, I wandered what to do about the save file so I ignored it.

I did have a quick look at that Ubuntu Linux a while ago downloading it by mistake but we were well into testing at the time so I deleted it and forgot about it.

 

I haven't got a clue about the windows XP based PE disk, I will be very keen to give that a go as well when you have the time to post the instructions as to what to do.

 

Since we, along with Brian started these two threads (Cloning and Flash Drives) I have been very fortunate to learn a lot more about computing other than testing from both of you. In addition looking at the number of "hits" it has created quite an interest and I am sure quite a few users have benefited by it.

 

The trouble is I have gained a lot and given nothing in return and that is frustrating so I thank you both for that, it is a pity we can't meet down the pub for a pie and a pint and a good old natter. 

 

Deric

I made a XP based PE disk for you Deric.  I can see by your screenshots that you have a license for XP so your fine using it.

 

Hopefully it will work for you, it's very tricky booting a XP based PE from a USB stick.

It's made with UBC4Win and I added the full driver pack, hopefully it has all the drivers necessary for your hard drive, firewire, USB and LAN.

 

I sent you an email from my gmail account.

Dave

Thanks Dave,

 

I will give it a go and let you know how I go, I have at least 3 licenses for XP Pro so there is no problem there, and by the way I am getting to know "puppy" a bit better now, many thanks.

I also got that DAT.exe file to load on my main machine by using shift+F5 but it bypasses loading drivers.

 

Deric

Dave,

The installation went like a dream, many thanks.

 

Deric.