Floating Red, I understand what you're saying, but sometimes built-in 'safeguards' go beyond what I think is reasonable. If I'm disconnected from the modem during the brief time I have NIS disabled, how is the hacker going to access my computer? As soon as I finish the install or troubleshooting I'm working on, I restart my computer and NIS is enabled. Then I reconnect the modem and do a second shutdown and restart to re-establish internet connectivity. I will post my comments to NIS 2008 feedback.
Sare
Hi Sare,
I understand what you are saying also; but my other point was that say, for example, you visited a Web Site that was hosting a Virus and Phishing Protection* did not Detect this - it could be a popular Web Site like MySpace or some other Fake Web Site that P.P. has gone un-Detected - and Norton AntiVirus, Auto-Protect and Suspuicious Activity Monitoring did not Detect this; it would have a very easy way to Disable Norton instead of going all through Norton Internet Security. Keep in mind that the Norton Status on the Task Bar would change. Are you willing to take that Risk?
* - Phishing Protection Detects Fake Web Sites
Message Edited by Floating_Red on 06-16-2008 08:05 PM
Message Edited by Floating_Red on 06-16-2008 08:06 PM
I appreciate your reply but rather than "guessing" I asked the developers and I asked as I did to open the possibility of change.
That you have had no need to disable AV during certain operations does not mean that others do not have a need or a wish to do so.
I'm well aware of the risk and when I pass on the advice, including from Microsoft, that a problem may be solved by disabling AV I add that if you wish you can disconnect from the internet and that you must not forget to re-enable it as soon as you can.
Please appreciate that by the nature of my voluntary sysop I am dealing with people who have actually encountered problems.
I can also think of other circumstances where what I am doing does not involve contact with the internet where I might wish to disable an AV program temporarily. The purpose of a good is to help the user, not to frustrate.
<< Norton AntiVirus, Auto-Protect and Suspuicious Activity Monitoring did not Detect this >>
If that is actually the case then how would having AV enabled detect it later? Heuristic might but seriously if one has a valid reason to disable the AV activity (and by that I mean whatever protection the particular protective application is providing) then it should not be impossible to disable an application on my machine.
Think UAC for a moment for an example of how unhappy over protectedness can make people .....
BTW This thread is one example that I had in mind in my latest reply to you in another thread (or is it in another part of the same theread? <s>) on the same topic
<< Norton AntiVirus, Auto-Protect and Suspuicious Activity Monitoring did not Detect this >>
If that is actually the case then how would having AV enabled detect it later? Heuristic might but seriously if one has a valid reason to disable the AV activity (and by that I mean whatever protection the particular protective application is providing) then it should not be impossible to disable an application on my machine.
Think UAC for a moment for an example of how unhappy over protectedness can make people .....
BTW This thread is one example that I had in mind in my latest reply to you in another thread (or is it in another part of the same theread? <s>) on the same topic
If the Auto-Protect, e.t.c., failed to Detect it, it would get Detected during a Full System Scan - hopefully - since a Full System Scan is deeper than Auto-Protect.
And of course I understand that, if you are not Connected to the Interent and wish to Disable N.I.S., then it is okay to do so as you are not At Risk if you are not Connected to the Interent. I would say that, when you are Connected to the Internet, it is advised that you keep all Features of N.I.S. On.
And I was just using this as an example - but I bet it does happen out there.
Personally I understand and support your point of view which fits in with my own actual experience in troubleshooting (or better still avoiding it).
Provided we know the risks and how to minimize them then it should be our decision.
It is your decision to want to Turn Off all Features of N.I.S. but, by doing so, and provided you are Connected to the Internet, you will be putting your computer At Risk of Internet Threats. And, like I have mentioned before, having a one-button, all-turn-off feature is a bit of a risk should an Internet Threat get on to your computer.
I would also like to point out that, as well as having all N.I.S. Features On, you need to keep your Product up-to-date; I would suggest Setting/Running LiveUpdate every few hours.
<< it would get Detected during a Full System Scan - hopefully >>
Hopefully yes, but Full System Scan is not usually running in the background while one is doing a system update! None of us is suggesting to turn off AV other than temporarily and then for a reason.
<< it would get Detected during a Full System Scan - hopefully >>
Hopefully yes, but Full System Scan is not usually running in the background while one is doing a system update! None of us is suggesting to turn off AV other than temporarily and then for a reason.
<< but I bet it does happen out there. >>
No takers on that -- if it could happen it will!
I am well aware that Full System Scans are not Scanning your full system and that you have to launch them Manually; the close-est to that is Auto-Protect.
This comes back to an Issue regarding Auto-Protect that I talked about here: Auto-Protect should be Scanning your whole system in the Background without affecting performence.
