"Intrusion Protection" OFF for "limited account" user?

I'm simply confirming that yes, it happens for me as well.

 

a) Limited users get the note that intrusion protection is off but can do nothing about it.

b) And my admin account sees no problems

 

The Norton 360 version I have is 2.3.1.4 with protection updates dated 21 July 2008 and Add-on-Pack version 2.1.0.55. Running on Windows XP MCE at SP2 level (automatic updates by MS turned on).

 

I switched only yesterday from my good old Norton Internet Security 2005 as it seemed make no sense to buy one more year support for that.. Now I feel a bit stupid.. Should have checked the buletin boards in advance.. I do not feel like having the time for this.. But here I am - and not alone..

 

The question "Is this cosmetic or for real" is popping up over and over again but no answers seem to be available?

Begining to think that Norton have given up on this problem.

 

Is the common denominator the add-on pack - is anyone getting this without having installed the add-on?

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If you decide to try this yourself and uninstall/ reinstall the add-in pack dont forget that Symantec has a tool to specifically backup the anti spam and other setting for the add-in pack, before your uninstall. The details are in the ADVISORY NOTE about uninstalling Norton 360 generally.

 

My experience is that the intrusion protection problem occurs even without the add-on installed.


a123 wrote:
My experience is that the intrusion protection problem occurs even without the add-on installed.

That's that theory banged on the head.

 

Just wish Norton would show more of an interest, and get this sorted.

Is it cosmetic or real? I don't know. How about you install a real virus on your system and see whether it detects/protects or not?


Surely this is what Symantec should be testing , isn't it?

 

Forgive me for being a bit dense, but isn't this a serious bug? How do I best go about determining if Symantec are actuallly looking at this at all?

 

Sorry for all the question marks in this post. It seems symptomatic of this thread.

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tigrah wrote:

Is it cosmetic or real? I don't know. How about you install a real virus on your system and see whether it detects/protects or not?

 


I have been told (amongst a dozen other different stories from the Indian call centre) that it is just cosmetic. However I do not believe it. 

 

My thought is that if it were just cosmetic, Norton would have been able to fix it before now. At the very least they could have issued a little program to check if it is running and give the user a reasuring message to that effect.  Safest to assume that we are not protected - making Norton 360 V2 unfit for purpose, and it would seem, unsupported. I can't beleive that it only affects the contributors to this thread.

I updated to XP SP3 level and the same thing still happens.. 8-(..

 

Somehow I am starting to suspect that this must be more of a cosmetic thing than real.. At least I am not seeing complaints on this forum that their systems have been actually been infected / intruded / compromised.. Then again, the intruders surely will do whatever they can to be not detected..

 

Anybody, what kind of things should one look for as a sign of intrusion now that Norton 360 cannot be relied on..?

 

By the way, my PC is connected to internet via a Zyxel WLAN/ADSL box which has some kind of firewall functionality as well.. Thus it should be sort of intrusion protected anyway.. This could be similar for many others as well and thus preventing this "feature" to be really critical.. But I do not know..

 

Anyway, looking forward to getting a decent updated / fix from Symantec..

Just would like to say that I'm getting the same (or similar issue) with NIS2008+WinXP :smileysad:

 

Admin account - all green - OK

Limited account - red - subscription or activation issue, told by NIS2008 to reinstall - safety features supposedly all OK

 

Same thing happening when changing the account from limited to admin and back to limited. Noticed it yesterday.

 

I have not installed Parental Control, Anti-SPAM add-ons.

 

have already posted this issue also in the NIS 2008 folder.

 

 


TEEZR wrote:

Just would like to say that I'm getting the same (or similar issue) with NIS2008+WinXP :smileysad:

 

Admin account - all green - OK

Limited account - red - subscription or activation issue, told by NIS2008 to reinstall - safety features supposedly all OK

 

 


Looks like a bigger issue that 360.

 

Am I just being cynical or this heading towards Norton announcing that it is a "virus" and charging a fee to be un-infected - nice work if you can get it.

 

 

I feel that Symantec would be bending over backwards to tell us that it is 'Cosmetic' and there is nothing to worry about - So I tend to feel very un-safe with it, which completely underminds the fundament purpose of the product. Doesn't any body at least understand the problem and give some kind of explanation of what is happening? There are plenty of clues - Don't think Symantec would  have any problems reproducing the problem.

 

Hope to hear something helpful

 

Richard 

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I challenge whether all the -ve comments are constructive. I participate in this forum in a very small way. It sometimes seems like a full time job just to keep track of all the posts that everyone makes. If I then participate in another 1 to 2 other Symantec forums it really would be a full time job. Clearly there is an issue. Post when necessary and keep the chatter down, that's my suggestion.

 

I am not wanting to single out users or have the time to respond to each in turn, but advising someone to install a virus is really not on.

 

I think it is fairly agreed that the status in "My Network" against your PC can be ignored if you have all Green ticks in the Norton Main window.

 

I suggest people examine their Windows system logs very carefully and if you believe something is not working advise.

 

It is clear that a Norton employee is already aware of this issue and we have to be patient it seems.

 

 

 

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cgoldman wrote:

 

It is clear that a Norton employee is already aware of this issue and we have to be patient it seems.

 

 

 


Patient ????

 

Post number 1 was 30th May. That's nearly two months. One sixth of the subscription.

 

I don't think it is negative to suggest that Norton aren't giving the issue the resource it deserves. Or posters conveying the message, via their employee who posts here, that we feel not enough is being done.

 

It is little wonder forum members are driven to try and resolve the matter amongst themselves. Norton have not responded to their own forum, and the outsourced support gives contradictory advise.

 

As for checking Windows systems logs, I wouldn't know where to start. I invested what is a moderate amount of money for just a year's use of a product that is supposed to mean that I don't have to worry about these things.

'Thank you. As a result of your useful message I have developed a bot which I have sent out on the net, it will find all users using Norton 360 V2 and using artificial intelligence will fix their machine. Hope that resolves your issue.'

 

On the other hand, being more realistic, I do not think you are appreciating what I am saying. So WITHOUT SHOUTING let me try again. I think it would be a good idea if there was a forum or thread for people who have no constructive criticism to give but want to have a good old moan. I absolutely believe everyone should have this facility and I would not in any way discourage it. I am not the administrator and he may have different ideas! However, when users post in a thread which is about problems and their resolution, every time someone posts these type of comments, I for one have to read it. It is a waste of my time. I am not Symantec. I also would like to moan and have made comments en passant about the beta testers etc but its now too late and we have to work to resolve issues that should not be there. I applaud free speech but I am working continuously to try to resolve users problems. Periodically I succeed and periodically I post solutions for users and Advisory notes. I am working on several issues at the moment. The more rubbish I have to read, the less time I can dedicate to finding or sourcing solutions or answers or workarounds.

 

If you posted in a dedicated forum or thread, at least I could ignore the postings.

 

I guess my efforts are paying off because as I write this I see I am up on the leader board (kudos!) - that wont last long I know.

 

To address your specific comments however. The first user did post on 30th May but txfeinbergs reported that a fix worked for him on 5th June. That seems good to me. The original poster had one week without the problem before it returned. I know this is unsatisfactory but haven't yet seen a problem as severe as the zombie one, and I would rather have had that resolved that say, for example, a diagnostic report saying that I am unprotected.  In short everything in context.

 

 

 


cgoldman wrote:

'Thank you. As a result of your useful message I have developed a bot which I have sent out on the net, it will find all users using Norton 360 V2 and using artificial intelligence will fix their machine. Hope that resolves your issue.'

 

On the other hand, being more realistic, I do not think you are appreciating what I am saying. So WITHOUT SHOUTING let me try again. I think it would be a good idea if there was a forum or thread for people who have no constructive criticism to give but want to have a good old moan. I absolutely believe everyone should have this facility and I would not in any way discourage it. I am not the administrator and he may have different ideas! However, when users post in a thread which is about problems and their resolution, every time someone posts these type of comments, I for one have to read it. It is a waste of my time. I am not Symantec. I also would like to moan and have made comments en passant about the beta testers etc but its now too late and we have to work to resolve issues that should not be there. I applaud free speech but I am working continuously to try to resolve users problems. Periodically I succeed and periodically I post solutions for users and Advisory notes. I am working on several issues at the moment. The more rubbish I have to read, the less time I can dedicate to finding or sourcing solutions or answers or workarounds.

 

If you posted in a dedicated forum or thread, at least I could ignore the postings.

 

I guess my efforts are paying off because as I write this I see I am up on the leader board (kudos!) - that wont last long I know.

 

To address your specific comments however. The first user did post on 30th May but txfeinbergs reported that a fix worked for him on 5th June. That seems good to me. The original poster had one week without the problem before it returned. I know this is unsatisfactory but haven't yet seen a problem as severe as the zombie one, and I would rather have had that resolved that say, for example, a diagnostic report saying that I am unprotected.  In short everything in context.

 

 

 


At the risk of being shot down again, can I constructively ask you to expand on the penultimate sentence in you last post? Are you saying that it is just a faulty diagnostic report, giving incorrect status? That is what I and many other posters have been trying to establish.

 

Since I have dared to break silence once more, I would like to point out that I was not just having a good moan, I (constructively I feel) raised the question of whether the add-on pack might have been key.

 

My later posts were to galvanise support and keep the issue at the top of NORTON's to-do list. -  NOT YOURS.

 

Like you I get an email alert everytime a posting is made. I open it and go to the thread hopeful that Norton have finally sorted it out, only to find another poor wretch brought here by a search engine as they frustratedly search the entire www for some sort of solution to what is a major issue. Like me they may have spent entire evenings in live chat sessions having the program un-installed and re-installed, registry tweaked and spybot taken away. Only to be told that we need to wait for a patch.

 

Please don't take it personally.

 

I will now remain silent until I feel the need to bump the issue once more. Once it it fixed I will go away.

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 know this is unsatisfactory but haven't yet seen a problem as severe as the zombie one, and I would rather have had that resolved that say, for example, a diagnostic report saying that I am unprotected.

 

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Sure. I was not referring specificaly to this thread. Under Winxp it is a common issue that the diagnostic report which can be run from the drop down menu, under PC Tuneup, reports against PC Tuneup that it is "Disabled". This arises despite the fact that the Green tick appears again PC Tuneup in the Norton Main Window. In those circumstances, Symantec has indicated that ther must be  a simple issue somewhere and that scans  run when expected. It almost a cosmetic error and the status in the diagnostic seems wrong. Accordingly, in these circumstances the diagnostic report against PC Tuneup can be safely ignored. If however you do not have a green tick and the diagnostic report is showing disabled, it should not be ignored.

 

However, this is not the issue as I understood it, in this thread.

 

Your points are well accepted and I am happy to stand corrected. There were some postings that were not reporting confirmation and were umhelpful. My comments were general and not directed at you. Its aggrevating that some such posters were actually given Kudos - for what  - moaning. 

 

I presume you have sent a PM to a Norton employee or the administrator. I do not suggest you remain silent, rather that we look for solutions. 

 

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txfeinbergs also then came back and said the fix only worked until the next update. txfeinbergs is definitely not happy and I am not aware of anyone that has posted here that has had this issue resolved.

I appreciate that, although I must have missed or overlooked the fact that the problem can back for you. I would like to help, but I am already working on other issues. As soon as I have cleared those or reached the buffers, I will try to see if I can look at this problem.

Meanwhile, asking the Norton employee if you could have an update would seem reasonable.

"I am not wanting to single out users or have the time to respond to each in turn, but advising someone to install a virus is really not on."

 

It's called sarcasm. Read my thread carefully. I actually suggest it is Norton's responsibility to test, not anyone elses.

 

I'm only here because this is the only place I can find valid information on this unresolved issue.


mutznutz wrote: 

My later posts were to galvanise support and keep the issue at the top of NORTON's to-do list. -  NOT YOURS.

 

I will now remain silent until I feel the need to bump the issue once more. Once it it fixed I will go away.


Before this thread becomes too heated, I would like to reiterate that our team is working to resolve this issue, and has been able to resolve some instances of its occurrence. The team is very aware of the concern over this issue, and is working to find a resolution for the customers who still see this problem. Thank you for letting us know you are still seeing the problem.

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