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Thanks – I’m not doing RSS at present since I have an OLR but I might use here to check out RSS.
Is NNTP access availabale for these forums so I can use my Off Line Reader?
TIA
That's sad… Nothing beats nntp when you visit and lot of groups and want to keep track of threads. I'll really really miss it.
Corentin
Good to find someone who appreciates it and knows what it is!
I use the new open source Virtual Access program -- VAOS -- which is being updated.
huwyngr wrote:Good to find someone who appreciates it and knows what it is!
I use the new open source Virtual Access program -- VAOS -- which is being updated.
There are still a lot of forums that are mirrored on nntp. It really makes my life a lot easier. It also allows for offline reading, which is really convenient when you are travelling.
Corentin
Maybe they'll hear us now we've mentioned it -- it's not as if there are adverts here that an OLR working text only would miss!
That was the argument on Compuserve when they were switching over to the current basis. I had to explain to the head honcho what NNTP was! And nothing more came of it.
Microsoft has had their (peer) support forums on nntp for years and years. They recently created http mirrors, but it still is only an interface to access the nntp groups.
I frequently visit these groups, and there is *no way* I'll ever migrate to the http version.
Corentin
huwyngr wrote:Maybe they'll hear us now we've mentioned it -- it's not as if there are adverts here that an OLR working text only would miss!
That was the argument on Compuserve when they were switching over to the current basis. I had to explain to the head honcho what NNTP was! And nothing more came of it.
<< and there is *no way* I'll ever migrate to the http version. >>
I agree especially once the volume grows.
Very true indeed.
In addition, I just tried the threaded view here (I use threading representations for nntp - usually in MacSoup). It is extremely convenient to figure out who is replying to whom, but it quickly becomes very tedious with the thread-home where all the topics are listed. There, seeing all the threading is distracting and can rapidly be an issue since one long thread can push all the other topics to additional pages. I haven't found any option to do so yet, but I'd love to be able to keep threading withing threads, but disable it in the topics list.
What specifically about NNTP makes that implementation so appealing? Is it the ability to access many different boards? Is it the format? We most likely will not be able to implement NNTP access for these forums, but since this is a BETA, we want to get your thoughts and opinions on your preferences for future implementations. Thanks!
Hi Tony,
For me, it is the both the format and the ability to access multiple forums in one interface.
When you go to groups often, having them all in one interface makes a huge difference. In addition, I can tag threads, filter them according to whatever pleases me, read offline, use a multitude of snippets, etc... nntp has a flexibility I will never find in a web page.
The web page offers cute html formatting tools, but I am a plain-text guy anyway. 99% of the time, the use of HTML tags to pretty the text makes it really hard to read (eg: weird fonts, colors everywhere, bouncing bunnies in the signature... :->
Whenever servers offer an nntp backend, I make sure that I use it instead of the HTTP equivalent.
Corentin
As Cortig says .....
I know that one of the programmers on VAOS uses it so that he can download before leaving for work and goes thorugh messages on the train (this is in the UK where they have a train service <gdr>)
I'm retired but like next week when on a cruise ship I can download all of an overnight update on the Microsoft VISTA Newsgroups' folders that I monitor and contribute to in a very short period of time (it has to be on when on the ships satellite link) and then disconnect from the internet and spend as much time as I want reading and answering. When I'm done I can log onto the internet and upload my replies in a "blink" -- back in the days of dialup that word became the Virtual Access term for an upload or download connection.
As I mentioned in my first message posted in these new forums, I sysop on a number of Compuserve Forums, where they don't have NNTP, and it's very laborious compared with using an Off Line utility.
I differ perhaps slightly from Cortig in that I have on the Compuserve Forums come to appreciate the ability to use HTML emphasis and above all to insert or attach images as part of troubleshooting. Sometimes a picture is worth a 1000 words.
I'm not at all knowledgeable on web technology but if it were possible to add NNTP access it would make life immensely more easy for you and your colleagues! Go for it!
Hugh
Hi huwyngr,
I don't think that you can access this forum via NNTP, but the RSS feeds seem to work quite nicely, and they should serve the purpose of tracking the posts in an offline reader.
JamesB