NIS 2010 suggestions

This is the first time I have disagreed with your suggestions and decisions, Allen.  The problem is that the regular forum has a million-and-one topics and we could get lost there.

 

I have a counter suggestion.  Because these discussions of suggestions lead themselves both to further suggestions and to refined suggestions, I think the whole package needs to be kept together, but with separate threads.  Why not a forum on NIS 2010 suggestions rather than this single thread?  Then each suggestion could become its own thread, which would enable you guys to keep track of a topic; but would also allow us poor users to find the specific threads under which we wish to comment.


mijcar wrote:

This is the first time I have disagreed with your suggestions and decisions, Allen.  The problem is that the regular forum has a million-and-one topics and we could get lost there.

 

I have a counter suggestion.  Because these discussions of suggestions lead themselves both to further suggestions and to refined suggestions, I think the whole package needs to be kept together, but with separate threads.  Why not a forum on NIS 2010 suggestions rather than this single thread?  Then each suggestion could become its own thread, which would enable you guys to keep track of a topic; but would also allow us poor users to find the specific threads under which we wish to comment.


 

I see your point and it is noted, some leeway is acceptable.  Perhaps the best way to handle that situation, at this time, is to open a new thread to discuss the point, but reply to the message here, and link the new thread discussing the point.

 

At this point we are not ready to have an entire product suggestion board.  However, we do have something in the works that will better handle this situation in the future, but isn't ready for use yet.

 

What we wish to avoid here, is someone making a suggestion that then 'takes over' the thread, because that causes other suggestions to be lost.

 

With that comment, lets move this discussion to Forum Feeback if it needs to be continued. 

OK. Back to topic.

 

Somebody mentioned he is missing the Security Inspector, and I second that.

While this feature wasn't very powerful, the idea to check for insecure settings was great. It should have deserved further development.

 

 

A completely different suggestion, a rather  psychological one. Under XP, NIS creates a big "Norton"-Indicator at the taskbar, while this was replaced by a sidebar-gadget under Vista. I don't like this gadget at all, but it took me some time to figure out why. I think it's because the taskbar is allways visible, while the sidebar is often covered by windows.

As said before, this is not a substantial problem, but rather a psychological thing. But I think these aspects are important, too.

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I think N.I.S. 2009 is very good - but it could have been an excellent Product.

 

Automatic Norton LiveUpdate: In other N.I.S.s, you could have the options to have it on Express Mode or Interactive Mode as well as how often it should run.  With N.I.S. 2009, all you have is Automatic Norton LiveUpdate (A.N.LU.) on/off.  symantec should put these options back in in N.I.S. 2010 that were in N.I.S. 2008.  Also should have "Notify Me" option back in as well.

 

Idle-Time Scan: I think this is a good component for people wil A.N.LU. on.  However, there are very few options with this.  For example: Idle Quick Scan runs no matter if you turn Idle-Time Scan off, which is poor because, if you turn it off, no idle-time scan should happen. 

If you turn off any options in N.I.S., the option(s) that were turned off should stay off; nothing should run.

 

Norton AntiBot: What are exactly the features of N.I.S. 2009 AntiBot because I cannot see any? 

In N.I.S. 2010, all of Norton AntiBot should be in the Product and there should be a different section for this in the options.  Norton AntiBot should be as light as a feather on the system as the Trail Norton AntiBot I had was very heavy on the system a few months' ago.

 

Norton Ad-Blocking: This Feature should be put back in like I have already suggested.

 

Tracking Cookies: When Idle-Time Scan runs in the background, it does not pick-up Tracking Cookies when I have "automatically remove low-risk items"; what is that all about?!  

In N.I.S. 2010, Background Scans - if turned on - should dectect and remove these; should also think about Auto-Protect Detecting and Removing these.

 

Norton Task-Bar icon: This should be brought back in N.I.S. 2010 as already suggested in this Forum.

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Have NIS 2010 remember window sizes.  It’s annoying having to keep resizing the NIS 2009 windows every time I open them.

Virus Definitions' Date: This should be brought, e.g. 24/09/2008, rev. 03; 010.  The "rev. 03" is the big V.D.s' Update as on the symantec Web Site, and the "010", is the Streaming Virus Def.s, i.e. rev. 10.  When it goes to - big V.D.s - rev. 21, the S.V.D.s should got back down to rev. 01, and so on.  Or, you could create two seprate dates called: "Virus Definitions' Update: 24/09/2008, rev. 003" and "Streaming Virus Definitions' Update: 24/09/2008, rev. 010".  Once the user logged-on or stayed on until 0000, 25/09/2008, the "rev." on the S.V.Ds'.U. would go back down to "25/09/2008, rev. 001", e.t.c..

 

"Last Run" Date: The Product should automatically Detect when a Scan Finishes and thus, change to Date/log it in the logs without the User having to click "Finish" for this to happen.

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Being able to fix problems detected on other systems that you monitor through the network remotely. Overall more remote control and management of other systems in other words.

Some kind of smart application monitoring, that tracks every single change that an unknoun (untrusted) executable file makes to the System, and the ability to Undo those chages, if they have caused damage. In this case, NAV/NIS should backup the files (and registry entries) before the change is made, so it can restore the original files later. Backed up files should be stored in a special compressed folder, and the user should be able to emty this folder.

First off let me say congrats to Symantec on an awesome product!  NIS 2009 is definitely a winner and if the trend continues I look forward to NIS 2010.

 

Now as far as suggestions someone mentioned it on the first page of this discussion and I think it's very important to say again.  Basically I think NIS 2010 should have FULL support for Vista 64 Bit. As in Sonar and everything that you guys put into it should work just the same way if not better(faster) on the 64 bit version.

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I agree about the files, but the registry is such a constantly changing beast that restoring an entry at a later date might cause serious trouble.

 

I'll give you an example:  Adobe likes to call routines that don't exist on the computer.  I believe AOL used to be guilty of that, too.  What really happens is that the program actually creates those routines when they are needed -- this way the user can't change them since they don't exist.  When I ran Norton System Works' WinDoctor it would find what appeared to be unlinked calls.  I used to delete them.  Then the very next time I ran adobe, there the entry would be, back in the registry.  Now, my guess is that Adobe simply replaces these registry entries any time it learns they are missing.  But imagine the following scenario:  NIS deletes a falsely positive entry for Adobe.  No problem, Symantec is notified of the error and fixes the problem with NIS.  Meanwhile, Adobe changes the address invoked by the registry entry with an update of its own.  Now you learn of the error, go into NIS and restore the entry removed by NIS.  But this entry points in the wrong direction.  And Adobe crashes.

 

Now Adobe is too well designed for this scenario to apply to any of their products.  But it can happen with lesser companies (AOL, perhaps?).  If a deleted registry entry hasn't caused a problem for a couple of days or so, it is probably not necessary.

 

So now this complicates things for Symantec.  Should the user be given that much opportunity to do damage?  How much time is spent saving the entry and time-date stamping it for user reference?  How long should it be kept?  What kind of warning does NIS owe the user if the user wants to restore it?  How should the user be notified if there are multiple occurences of the same entry?

 

I don't know the answers to any of the above.  :smileymad:  So maybe Symantec can design exactly what you are asking for.  This is merely a suggestion as to why it isn't being done yet.

Hello, first off nis/nav 2009 are tons better than the older versions. i dont think anyone wants it to become bloated again. ok sergestions time 1. basically all files should be located under program files\norton internet security and have a few easy to understand subfolders such as bases reports etc. the main scan file should be located in the folder direct in my opinion. 2. on the right click menu there should be an exit option, this would completely shutoff nis/nav and the service. to start nav/nis you can just go to program files and click on nav/nis. or if you follow my sergestion above just browse to the norton internet secuirty folder in program files and double click on the main file. just like double clicking on avp.exe if your using kaspersky products. 3. and advanced option that reads "lanch nav/nis when the computer starts. if you untick the option it wont load at startup. it can be used for trouble shooting purposes without having to uninstall the program.

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1. Shut down the computer after the full system scan. ( make a button like norton 360 )

2. Speed up the computer after the windows start. NIS2009 installs very fast, but it doesnt improve the PC startup speed                  

    (the speed same like Norton 360 version 2.0 ).

3. Add Norton AntiBot with NIS2010.

4. Make a more colourful interface for NIS2010.

Add a function to NIS 2010 to secure our IP address while surfing the internet.


znmng wrote:

1. Shut down the computer after the full system scan. ( make a button like norton 360 )

2. Speed up the computer after the windows start. NIS2009 installs very fast, but it doesnt improve the PC startup speed                  

    (the speed same like Norton 360 version 2.0 ).

3. Add Norton AntiBot with NIS2010.

4. Make a more colourful interface for NIS2010.


 

 

3. Since NIS is supposed to work as automatic, but still safely as possible, it'll only include the accurate part of the whole software Norton Anti-Bot. This is already present the 2009 release. The stand-alone product Norton Anti-Bot is there for advanced users who want more protection against this kind of threat and other through behaviour protection. I recall I've seen this asked for before in this topic, so now when it's brought up yet another time I decided to provide this information now. They're clearly aware of this request and have in other words already incorporated what should be in the 2009-edition. 4. You're already able to choose from a variety of skins in 2009 - see 'Miscellaneous Settings' of the settings-section. If you're already aware of this and mean even more colorful skins which aren't present, then please write it here. - Hope this helps!

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znmng wrote:
Add a function to NIS 2010 to secure our IP address while surfing the internet.

 

How do you mean? Anynomize/Encrypt it somehow? If that's what you mean, it's something that always slows your browsing and bandwidth A LOT. The FW is and has always been there to protect the IP by stealthing ports and in every other way to protect you from getting hacked. All FWs try to do that. Additionally you've IPS and also the FW cooperating with the other parts of the suite, like the AV, AS and most importantly SONAR, and all this has been heavily improved with the 2009 release. They work together much more closely now to work as a team.

First off, I think that the 2009 NIS and AV are superb. A vast improvement in features, and espacially speed, with little resource usage. I feel for the 2010 version, an enhanced antispam module would be nice, with integration into Windows Mail for Vista. A toolbar with Spam Add and Not Spam would be useful. Secondly, a better Parental Control would be appreciated for those with children. Thirdly, and lastly, the Safe Web application should be integrated in the installer with the option to switch either On or Off.

 

Best regards,

 

Peter.

Hello

 

Mozilla Firefox is supported by NIS. The Toolbar, Identity Safe and Pishing-Control works wonderful.

But the Anti-Spam does not work with the Mozilla Thunderbird. :(

Can this support comming soon? Perhaps with a Patch for NIS2009?

 

Thanks an greets from Germany ;)

Please bring back Security Inspector.

 

Thank You.


Stu wrote:

I would like to have more control myself and have Norton make less changes for me.

This counts for anti virus aswell as the firewall aswell as the IDS 


 

I completely agree with this.  I totally understand that you want the product to startup and work for most people without them having to make any decisions. That makes perfect sense. But for people who do understand the implications of their decisions, you should provide an advanced settings area that lets us modify, or turn off altogether, the things that NIS now does automatically.

Link to 2009 Security Inspector: http://www.nortonlabs.com/