So after a while of screwing with it I finally figured out how to disable Norton completely. I don't mean just turn everything to disabled, I mean kill the system processes so Norton isn't loaded into memory anywhere and there are no running processes of it.
But new programs are continuing to be blocked and the only way to unblock them is to restart Norton and unblock them manually, then redisable/kill Norton.
How do I unblock an application without restarting Norton, or better yet, how do I stop Norton from blocking applications when it's disabled and shut down?
If Norton is not running it cannot block anything. What are your applications being blocked from doing? If Norton is blocking them what alerts are you seeing? A more comprehensive description of what you are seeing would be helpful. If Norton truly is preventing something from running it is not usually advisable to deal with the issue by completely shutting down your system's protection.
I shut down Norton because I do not want it running. Ever. Period. It has to stay installed because there is another user account on this computer and that user wants Norton running on his account, I do not want it on mine so I have a batch file in my start up that runs my custom scripts to kill Norton.
The applications are being blocked from Internet access. I know this is Norton because once I install a new application and it tries to connect to the internet it will fail and tell me that I am not connected to the internet. I start up Norton, go into program control and set the newly installed program to Allow and shut down Norton again and voila, my newly installed program can now access the internet just fine.
I've had to do this at least 6 times now and I would really hate to have to do it a seventh.
I am a bit confused. So you have more than one account and you don't want Norton running on your account. What exactly are you doing for anti-virus/security protection on your account?
It is not advisable to have more than one security software installed on the computer at the same time, regardless of whether you try to limit it to a single account or not. Security software is not your typical software and cannot be truly limited to a single user account like other software can.
I believe the fact that you are attempting to do this is what is leading to the problems.
Ultimately, your solution is unworkable with any security software, not just Norton. If the two users of this PC cannot agree on a single security solution, then your options would seem to be to either buy your own computer or set up a dual-boot on the one you already have.
How about answering my questions rather than "advising" me on stuff?
I can talk the other user into stopping the use of Norton products and going with a far less intrusive AV program if you all wish.
I've been using computers for on about 20 years now and haven't had any issues and I've never used AV programs proactively. If I feel something needs to be scanned I do it on demand or reactively. 20 years, no major problems stop spreading your fear of the boogey man, if you "learn to computer" then you won't have any problems and don't need AV software 99% of the time.
Now, answer my question. It's quite simple. How do I stop Norton from blocking programs when it's disabled and instead allow all programs when it's disabled? I'm sure the solution is quite simple if you'd actually answer the question which I suggest you do as I've lost my patience.
How about answering my questions rather than "advising" me on stuff?
I can talk the other user into stopping the use of Norton products and going with a far less intrusive AV program if you all wish.
I've been using computers for on about 20 years now and haven't had any issues and I've never used AV programs proactively. If I feel something needs to be scanned I do it on demand or reactively. 20 years, no major problems stop spreading your fear of the boogey man, if you "learn to computer" then you won't have any problems and don't need AV software 99% of the time.
Now, answer my question. It's quite simple. How do I stop Norton from blocking programs when it's disabled and instead allow all programs when it's disabled? I'm sure the solution is quite simple if you'd actually answer the question which I suggest you do as I've lost my patience.
HI givemecontrol,
First, this is a user to user forum and SendOfJive and I are not from Symantec. Your tone is not called for so I would request that you exercise a little civility.
Secondly I am a software engineer and a computer expert so I am not a rookie here and even I would never condone not running security software. It does not matter how safe you are when online, it only takes once....
Lastly what we are trying to tell you is that what you are trying to do is simply not supported. No real-time security software I've ever heard of out there is designed to be able to be completely disabled on a per user account basis.
I am sorry that you don't like this answer but it is the answer.
Beleive me, I am exercizing an extraordinary amount of restraint. I am not a friendly person when my intelligence is being insulted, and it has been.
I am also an IT expert having worked in the past for both Dell and IBM. I could work out how to do this on my own and craft some custom utilites to do what I am asking, but I don't know how Norton functions or how it closes off Internet access to programs, so rather than tinker with it myself and waste all that time I figured I'd come here for some answers to solve the issue quickly.
Norton and the other AVs are not infalible, not even close. Crafting FUD RATs is far from rocket science. But I suppose my 20 years of experience in this industry isn't worth anything, right?
Don't worry your little head, I have my own security measures in place but they are all passive and non-intrusive, so you can sleep soundly tonight that I'm as protected as I could possibly be and should something actually happen, well that's why nothing of importance is kept without being backed-up externally.
But all of that is neither here nor there....
I got exactly the response I expected when I came here, but I hoped you would suprise me. Sadly, you did not.
You won't here from me again around these parts, that's for sure and I wouldn't bother typing out any long winded response, I won't be here to read it.