Norton Family and Firefox 24.0

Welcome to the club ajramsayjaneway :smileysad:

 

I was one of the first to point up your problem almost three weeks ago, and there's still no sign of a resolution from Symantec as of now

 

Of the 3 laptops in my family, only 1 works flawlessy, with an un-upgraded FF23 and the latest NOF (2.9.021): I don't know what's different, I just let it be and hope for the better, because it's the only PC from which my children can surf the internet, since on the other 2 I unistalled NOF and disabled their accounts ...

 

Qustodio seems quite a good alternative: I'm testing it and there's no plugin to stop upgrading FF

 

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for your patience.  The team is working on the issue.  We will release an update as soon as it's ready.

 

 

Thanks,

Katie

Just to confirm that I was having the same issue as other people in this thread, I had to uninstall NF to fix the problem. Otherwise FF-24 almost always hang when exiting. Given the comments here, I also decided to give Qustodio a try and so far it looks OK. Having problems like this will cost Norton customers and makes the forum an advertisement for a competitors solution !!!!

Katie,

 

Any news about this problem?

Hi,

 

The Norton Family team has released an update 2.9.0.26 via Automatic LiveUpdate.  We believe we have resolved the internet connectivity issue.  You will be asked to reboot your machine when the update is available to your machine via the LiveUpdate.  Please retest and let us know if you are still experiencing the issue.

 

 

 

Thanks for your patience,

 

The Norton Family Team

 

Well,

as I had said in a previous post, of the 3 laptops in my family only 1 works flawlessy, the one with an un-upgraded FF23 and the latest NOF (2.9.021), while on the other 2 I had to unistall NOF and disable my children accounts

 

After reading you post, I went to that surviving one, verified that NOF 2.9.0.26 had already installed, and upgraded to FF24:

within 2 minutes from launch FF24 had already hanged and was in a "not responding" state

by the book, firefox.exe process was unkillable and ccleaner could not act on its cache

 

you know what? I uninstalled NOF and replaced it with Qustodio, enought is enought

 

I'm really, really sorry, but after more than 15 days, we can't really be again at the starting point AND with my last functional laptop for the children now KO ...

 

-Gliver

Hi gliver,

 

Thanks for the update.  We will continue to check into the issue.  For now, please use Internet Explorer or Chrome as browser.

 

 

Thanks,

Katie

I have this issue with all IE, Chrome and Firefox.  I got the 2.9.0.26 update on Win7 Home 32, but not on my Win7 Ultimate 64.  The 2.9.0.26 still has the same problem with IE and Firefox for me.  Note: Norton Family is on version 26, but the signatures are on version 21 still.

Update:

 

I do know have the ver 26 update on Win7 Pro 64 bit.  I said Win 7 Ult in my previous post, but I wrote the wrong one - I meant Win 7 Pro.  My Win7 Ult 64 bit I haven't checked yet - I don't want to reboot that one now.  I haven't tested it out to see if the problem is fixed on the Win7 Pro computer yet. 

Hi bplandrs,

 

Thanks for the update.  Can you please let us know what security products and versions you have on the PC that is still experiencing the internet connectivity issue?

 

 

Thanks,

Katie

Win 7 Home Premium 32 bit

Norton Internet Security version 20.4.0.40

Norton Family 2.9.0.21

 

I decided to uninstall and reinstall Norton Family on this computer before I saw your message.  That's why it's back on version 21.  I reinstalled Norton Family, ran live update, rebooted, ran live update again and it still isn't updating Norton Family to 2.9.0.26 so I can't try it out again.

 

While I was uninstalling/reinstalling I discovered my network surge protector was flaky.  This was causing a major slowdown in speed.  My link speed was showing 1 Gbps, but it definitely was not that fast.  Instead of taking less than 1 minute to download the 15mb Norton Family, it was going to take at least 15 minutes and likely longer.  I replaced the bad surge protector.

 

I wonder if my incredibly slow connection may have contributed to the issue with Norton Family or any other browser extension (like Last Pass) couldn't do what it needed and locked up the browser.  I won't know until Norton Family decides to update on it's own.  I've run Norton Live Update several times, but it doesn't update Norton Family.

Hello again,

 

I don't know....  Suffice it to say, that I am reluctant to re-install NOF.  I am tempted to try back sometime in November, lol.  Unfortunately, I am still paying for the service in the meantime....  Regardless, should I attempt to re-install NOF?  I mean, IE 10 is no longer haphazardly crashing (like when NOF was installed) and G-Mail attachments are FINALLY working!  I hate to lose that.... 

 

Ms. Qiu, what do you think I should do?  I have a feeling that you would instruct me to re-install NOF and report back my findings....  However, I just r e a l l y don't want to do that....  I'm almost inclined to sit back and let Norton completely "iron this out" (so to speak) then swoop in when everything works :catvery-happy:  However, with this mentality, will Norton ever be able to effectively get to the bottom of this if no one is reporting their findings?  Decisions, decisions.  After battling confliction in my soul, I will probably re-install NOF....eventually....  (grumbles)   

I have tried using LiveUpdate and it says it installed 4 updates, but the NF version still says 2.9.0.21.  And I still have the problem.  When I install NF and enable the add-on in Firefox 24, then whenever I try exiting Firefox, it hangs and Windows asks me if I want to close it or wait.  IE works okay, as long as Firefox is sitting open, or completely closed, but not if Firefox is in its hung state.  IE opens and exits just fine, but I don't like to use it.

 

I am using Win7 32-bit.  I got the latest version of NIS.

 

I'll just uninstall NF, but I sure would like it to be working again.

Today my computer updated to ver 26.  I tested it out and it still hangs in Firefox and IE.  Don't know if it helps, but I usually test by opening like 4 tabs and hit several sites in 1 or 2 of them.  When I was waiting to see if the processes were going to end on their own, I noticed that there is two nf.exe processes running.  One is running under my account, the other is running under SYSTEM.

Hi bplanders,

 

1.  The "security products" I mentioned in my previous post was referring to the products like Norton 360 or any other security products in the market.  Please let me know.

 

2. Are  you able to reproduce the internet connectivity issue consistently?  if so, I'll be glad to set up a remote session with you to check into the issue further.

 

 

Thanks,

Katie

Hi Hammer_Bro,

 

Thanks for the feedback.  I"ve worked with users with internet connectivity issue, but they are not able to reproduce the issue while I'm on the remotes session with them.  If you have the latest Norton Family 2.9.0.26 installed on the machine and are able to reproduce the issue, I'll be glad to setup a remote session, so we can check into the issue further.

 

 

Thanks,

Katie

Hi ajramsayjaneway,

 

The latest Norton Family 2.9.0.26 should be installed on your machine automatically (you should receive an message on the screen asking you to reboot the machine). 

 

If you haven't received the message yet, we are working on the release that allows users to download the latest version 2.9.0.26 on the machine manually from the Norton Family website.

 

 

Thanks,

Katie

Uh oh, uh oh!  The lovely Ms. Qiu responded to me….  That means I get anouther opportunity to confess my feelings and ask for her hand in marriage, LOL!  :catvery-happy:

 

Courted by numerous suitors, the stunning Ms. Qiu is the envy of all her co-workers.  In 2008, a meager year prior to joining this forum, she won the coveted Miss Philippines Earth title.  With sage intelligence and ravishing beauty, only time and her boundless imagination will tell what the future holds….      

 

To be honest, I think if it was anybody else, I wouldn’t care….  But, for you, even though I am exhausted from dealing with other computer frustrations, I will do my best to provide more information on this issue. 

 

Tonight, I can attest to the fact that I did not receive a prompt to install the latest Norton Family version - - even with a re-start.  Therefore, I still had to deal with the problematic version (2.9.0.21). 

 

I have a good idea of why (when you were working with people’s systems remotely) the symptoms could not be replicated.  It is because the Internet portal was actively engaged.  When I had remotely connected with a Norton/Symantec representative (sometime back) he could not see it either….  He was (at that time) lending preponderance to placing blame on Add-ons inherent with the N360 programme.  However, I systematically went through (one painstakingly at a time) and discovered that the issue (really) resided with Norton Family and only if the computer was “woken up” (so to speak) from a significant sleep time.  For example, if the computer was placed in sleep mode for say, one to two minutes, then woken up, everything was still fine.  Internet would connect.  However, if say the computer was in sleep mode for a longer duration of say 30 minutes, then woken up, that is when hanging Internet was evidenced.  And, I highly doubt, that in your remote sessions, you were able to wait 30 minutes with the customer for their computer to be taken out of sleep mode to test such a theory.  Yes, at least in my case, duration was key to this issue with respect to NOF version 2.9.0.21. 

 

As a matter of fact, I tested the theory again i.e., computer being asleep for a longer duration, then woken up, and Internet hung, NOF had to be un-installed in Safe Mode with Networking.  Keep in mind with this most recent testing, before I un-installed NOF on this system for the second time, and before the computer went to the longer duration of sleep, the Internet was working and I thought a key distinction was disabling NOF’s Browser Helper Object (BHO) in IE 10, because, initially, I did that, and it looked like things were fine.  For example, Internet connected and I was still able to upload an attachment in G-Mail.  I thought NOF’s BHO was the culprit and by keeping that “at bay” (so to speak) everything would be fine; my only concern (at that time) was, with that component disabled, would adult-oriented sites still be blocked?  The victory was short-lived, however.  Again, after the system was woken up from a sleep duration in the range of 30 minutes, even though I told IE 10 to not enable NOF’s BHO when prompted, the Internet hung!  This would then indicate, that regardless of NOF’s BHO, the mere presence of the Norton Family programme (2.9.0.21) is enough to quash Internet connectivity on a system after being woken up from a significant sleep duration. 

 

 

Love,

 

H.B.     

Katie,

 

1. I have Norton Internet Security 2013 (Norton Internet Security version 20.4.0.40) installed - that's the only security product.

 

2. I can reproduce it every time.  I can do a remote session if I happen to be online when you are.

 

Brian

Hi bplanders,

 

I've sent you a private message.  Please check it when you get a chance.

 

 

Thanks,

Katie