Well, that beat all. I was using Desktop IE 11 this morning and sometime this afternoon I noticed the Norton Too bar was gone and now the Norton log on will not work. So, I did the circus tricks, reset IE 11, all that, installed Norton's, took three tries to download and install Norton's back on -- it finally worked, but still no Tool Bar. Then I was off then back on and the tool Bar is missing again. So, I start up my laptop and guess what! The Norton's Tool Bar is gone. This is getting old folks. No PC stuff for dummies, I've been at this computer stuff for 60 years..........