Problem with partitionmagic! help please!

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Hi,

Interestingly it looks like no one has looked into your problem, or else no one has the answer.

Well, I’m no tech but have had similar kind of problems with my drives.

So every Tip and Trick you get here is based on personal experience, apply at your own risk, If any thing goes wrong you can not held me responsible for that.

Recreating Partition E: will not help, and probably will make things more complicated, and you will end up with an empty partition.

 

First I assume that you have one primary partition C: (ntfs), and one extended partition with two logical drives D: and E: ( both ntfs).

 When merging two partitions Partition Magic asks “which partition do you want to become a folder of the other partition?”

In your case if you selected E: then first try to look your files in D: drive, If its not there

Then before doing any thing adventurous, backup your data on other partitions.

 

Partition Magic comes with a handy utility PTedit.exe,(PTedit32.exe is windows version) but only meant for experts, I do not know either Norton has continued to ship it or not.

You will find it in Partition Magic installation folder.

 

If you could post here some screen shots of Ptedit.exe It would be easier for me to guide you.

 

Just run Ptedit32.exe take a screen shot and save it.

Click *Go To EPBR* tab and take another screen shot, save it

 Click again *Go To EPBR* tab and take another screen shot, save it

 

Be Patient, as it will take some time to answer.

 

 

thank you for trying to help.

I was going to store files on D:(in the folder), but there is nothing visible. besides, the size of theese partitions are not changed.

the problem is that I need not concrete file, but hole 10-30 GB data.

when I tried recovery tools, e.g recover my files with complete format search,  it reconstructed the file system tree quite well, but the problem is that the files are not there where must be(they might be shifted). I see that this recovery program took this information from MFT tables or from somewew else.

I hadn't tried  to look for files on D:

 

aslso, I found that Data LifeSaver findes lost folders and files are not damaged. I think this is very useful tool for me but I have no license.

 

anyway now I'll try what u adviced and post here screenshots.

error detail

 

 

 this is my problem. i had 40gb data on the partition E.

i tried to merge D and E. i named folder for E data, but error occured while merging (mybe becauze there wasn't 40 gb on D) and now i can't red E partition...

how can i return the data. if u know the way tell me please.

 

 

 

 

only two screenshots.

Got it.

As I suspected, you have lost your EPBR information located on D: drive. The method I suggest, should not

harm your data or existing partitions on the drive, but it is always better to perform a backup before playing with

the disk.

1) Run partiton Magic, Right Click E: drive, choose properties, and make a note of total physical sectors.

   (Alternatively you can download DEMO version of active@ Partition Recovery from Partition-recovery.com, for free.

   You can not recover partitions with it but scan with it check the properties of the found partition and note

     total sector value.)

 

Partition Properties

 

2) Run PTedit.exe, GoTO EPBR and modifiy the values as follows, changes are made with bold.

Now take the value you obtaind from Partition Magic, add 63 into it  and enter it for  "sectors" coloumn value.

All changes will be reflected in red colour, so you will be sure about what you are doing.

Save the changes. (Modifications must be made wher you took your "2.jpg" screen Shot.)

 

Modified 

 

3) If saving changes make "GOTO EPBR" tab enable, click it. If you found any partition information in the

upper most ROW, now this should be OK. If you don't, the partition information on partition starting sector

has been erased.

 

You may try to mannually enter it as you did previous, post screen shots of third "EPBR" and I'll tell you what to do,

I have tried it with some sucsess, surely not completely recovered, because my problem was much complicated.

 

Else you can Go for Data recovery or Partition Recovery software

One of them you can find at the link above, another one GET_Data_Back from "Run time software" Or

Seagate's "file recovery for windows", always try the DEMO first whan satisfied,Buy it.

 

If you have any hasitations or questions about this ask me.

 

GOOD LUCK.

Hi astonaut,

 

I'm not able to see the two pictures you uploaded. I would like to take a look because I have a similar problem. While attempt to resize my partition, the comp crashed and one of my partitions could not be read. Initially the partition properties were as the picture below.

 

 

 

Since the crash, I've used PTEDIT32.EXE to change the partition type from 3C to 7. Apparently now the addresses for my files have all been rewritten. So even though I see the file there, with correct thumbnail, data size and all, correct file directory in windows, I end up being not able to open the files. Mainly because I think what I see in windows is linked to the wrong address on the hard disk.

 

On top of providing the me with the two screen shots from earlier, any advice on my situation?

I can't see images either.

here are E: (unformatted) partition's properties.

 

 

 

I have to go out from my city and I'l return in 3-5 days.

then I'll try to fix this problem with your help.

Thank u again

My Mistake....!

 

I didn't know it that I had to upload the images on a web server first, I thought the images would be uploaded onto

Norton's site as I Insert it with the post from local computer. I will try to upload it again.

(Else, you can tell me how to do it)

 

NOw the problem with Partition Magic7....

1) I don't know whether PM7 is compitible with winXP OR works well with this OR how large partitions/drives it supports

You should check its documentation. Usuallay people recommend PM8 (Check out Microsoft Discussion Groups)

 

2) I haven't had any experience with *Power Quest Recoverable Partition (PqRP)*, if you could post PTedit.exe

screen shots like the above, I'll be in better position to guid you.

 

Thanx And Regards

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First of all,

 

Thanks astronaut for replying me as well. You do need to upload the screenshots somewhere, then copy the link you so can insert into the picture function that have here. For me I use geocities as I have a yahoo account. Don't think this forum caters to uploading images.

 

I'm only able to provide you with one useful screen shot for now.

This is the default screenshot when I go in PTEdit. As I mentioned in my previous post, the partition type has already been changed by me from 3C to 07. Durng the restart, I saw partition magic was deleting and rerouting a whole bunch of addresses for the files in this drive.

 

When I try to go to EPBR, it prompts me the following;

It's I click on GotoParent.

 

But let me know what other screenshots can I provide that might help.

Hi Muxianski

 

 

Here are the images, I hope now you may see it. PTedit screen shot is modified with bold fonts, just enter modifications where

you took your 2.jpg screen shot exactly as it is. Then save changes and pray. If partition's boot sector and File system is intact,

which should be (If it wasn't Partition Magic would have displayed it as unallocated space) and there are no physical disk problems

like, bad sectors OR *CRC* error then you should be able to access the volume, B4 accessing the volume you might need a reboot. clicking *Go To EPBR* tab will give you further information. If it dosen't then post here another screen shot of PTedit, which

doesn't give any information then I'll see what could be possible.

 

Good Luck

 

 

 

 

EPBR values to enter in PTedit

Now about you who *needhelp*.

I did exactly as you have told, I hope that now the people could see the image. If they won't it would be very unfortunate,

 

As I have told you, I have never been in situation like this, FOUR primary partitions on one disk, all NTFS and ACTIVE partition

far away from CYLENDER 1024 Boot Code Boundry, from which I don't think any Microsoft Operating system would be able

to boot, (I have not tested it yet)

 

As it is your secondry disk, I don't think you had installed any OS onto that Active partition IF you had please clearify.

was resizing partition involved resizing other partitions too, if so, are you able to access those normaly? and are you able

to access the affected partition partially?

if problem partition was actually a primary partition or  was it a logical drive with in an extended partiton?

After the crash when you rebooted, what happened? I don't think Partition Magic would have to do any thing after restart,

except that you were working on a system/boot partition. Even then system had to restart b4 operation begins.

 

you said that after changing partition TYPE when you rebooted, Partition Magic reallocated the data on the partition,

I couldn't understand  this also, because there wasn't involved any Partition Magic operation, Please clearify.

 

about posting screen shots, If you could post *Boot Record* window image of every partition on that drive , it might be helpful.

 

Best Regrds

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Yep, your images can be seen now. :smileywink:

 

Nope, I did not install/run any OS from the secondary disk.

 

Resizing did involve other partitions, but the other partitions are ok. In fact, the resizing was ok, just that the files in the partition that had its volume increased are a mess now.

 

The affected partition was a primary partition, I have no logical partitions (more out of habit than any other reason).

 

You are right, after crash the system did nothing during reboot. But after reboot, the partition type became a PqRQ partition, that was when I changed it from PqRQ to 07 (for NTFS).

 

During reboot, system started reassigning address. I agree this doesn't make sense, but that is what happened. There was PTEdit operation to change from PqRQ to 07.

 

I would like to post the screen shots for each 'boot sector', but in each situation I am prompted 'Enter the sector to view as MBR sector:'. Just like what was seen in my second screen shot. Any idea what sector number to key in?

 

Hi again Astronaut,

 

I just remembered something, after changing the partition type, there was no drive letter associated with the partition, hence I was still not able to assess the partition. I did change the drive letter, after which I was prompted with a restart. I have just spoken to a friend and he mentioned it may just be a simple case of the memory being corrupted. In which case all the data may just be unrecoverable.

 

Cheers

Muxianski...

 STOP….STOP…STOP….! 

If you have not done it already, just STOP. And DO NOT EDIT EPBR for now, and Read It First..

 

ELSE, you must have known the results better than me.

 

I just recalculated every thing and found my silly Mistake. :smileysurprised: I feel sorry for the inconvenience, :smileysad: if any.

 

You may find Correct Image Here. Be sure to read the linked document first.

 

Cheers.     

 

              

  

 

 

 

hi astronaut.

don't worry, i've just arrived from village and so i've not done anything jet fortunately...

 

our calculations became wrong. i have c:(30) d:(50) and e(70).

so i think i'd better to try recovery software, besides i've restored most part of my data and i don't want to risk other partitions as well...

 

anyway thank you very much for help....

i'll post here results when i finish later....

Sorry..! I wasn't around here for some time, I was busy.

 

Muxianski,

 

now it is getting interesting, and if you have back up your data it might be interesting for you as well.

If you haven't changed any thing on your drive then check your *c: drive* properties in *PMagic* and tele

*total sectors* values with  *total sector* value in *ptedit.exe*. I hope there you may find my point.

 

Now *needhelp*

 

as I've mentioned in my previous posts, this situation is as unique for me as for you. Your friend may be right,

 and there might be some memory corruption, I can't say any thing from here.

as far as MBR sector msg box is concerned, I'll try any number 0, 1, 2,3,... and so on. Fat32 volumes normally

 have *sector 6* as backup Boot sector, I don't know about NTFS. well you can try this.

 

cheers. 

i've restored most part of my data(almost 90%). data life saver helped me. i think it is the best recovery tool.

i don't want to risk ather partitions so a reformatted my disk.

 

thank u for help.

does it work if i create new partition from E:?